Fred after his ordeal!

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I don't know if it's just me but I think Fred looks clearly withdrawn in this picture, I did try to get pictures of his wounds but he yelps the minute you touch him, so I didn't bother he's been though enough!
 
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he does look very wary in that photo bless him, I found trimming the hair round the wounds made them much easier to deal with and make sure i did not miss any! Kisses to that gorgeous piggy!
 
lovelygirl said:
he does look very wary in that photo bless him, I found trimming the hair round the wounds made them much easier to deal with and make sure i did not miss any! Kisses to that gorgeous piggy!
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I may try that, he is generally a fast healer but the biggest one on is rump is about 1-1 1/2 inches, and it doesn't seem to be healing so quickly! I am putting salt water on the wounds to keep them clean! It's so hard finding the wounds in his coat!

I must admit I think when Blood is drawn needs clarified even although Fred has big wounds I never seen blood but he has clear bite wounds, so why there wasn't any blood who knows! Maybe it clotted quickly or Marvin didn't bite hard enough who knows!

I'm just glad he never got his face!
 
Did the vet not give you anything to wash the wound out with? I also made a chart on a piece of paper to help me so i did not miss one (the foster piggy had 17)

He obviously wheeked "not the face, not my pretty face" when he was being attacked
 
Poor Fred - he looks a bit shellshocked! Make sure that you keep the wounds clean; once they have healed closed, you can use bepanthen on them, if you want to. Have an eye on possible abscesses where Marvin's teeth may have broken through the skin.

My guess is that Marvin was rather panicking and freaking out when put into a small box with Fred than fighting with real intent and deliberation.
 
lovelygirl said:
Did the vet not give you anything to wash the wound out with? I also made a chart on a piece of paper to help me so i did not miss one (the foster piggy had 17)

He obviously wheeked "not the face, not my pretty face" when he was being attacked
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No she never which I am quite unnerved about just said he needed an injection of Baytril, and injected him in the scruff poor sole never wheeked, Then gave me 2 days of baytril and told me to give it daily (0.2)mls! She said the wounds looked infected, and that's why she was giving him the injection! which I was not keen about, but I presume she knew best as she was recommended to me by the rescue. I'm starting to think she didn't have a clue!

She told me to bring him back in a week for a check up and charged me £27! :{
 
Wiebke said:
Poor Fred - he looks a bit shellshocked! Make sure that you keep the wounds clean; once they have healed closed, you can use bepanthen on them, if you want to. Have an eye on possible abscesses where Marvin's teeth may have broken through the skin.

My guess is that Marvin was rather panicking and freaking out when put into a small box with Fred than fighting with real intent and deliberation.
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He was biting Fred before the box, sure I seen him that morning, I just think for whatever reason he really didn't like Fred! So much for Bonding though fear is all I can say!
 
Sometimes, bonding sadly doesn't work out with boars, when the characters don't gel in the long run and you are not in a situation where you can let Fred choose his friend.

I am sorry that it went pearshaped with you!
 
It's so hard with these little guys as just like us they all have such unique personalities. Poor Fred does look weary in that photo. The one time my Sally got a couple of wounds on her back which appeared to be from someone pulling her hair out, or an accident or dry skin that she had scratched my vet shaved her around the wound (although was just on one site) and made it much easier to keep clean and monitor.

I agree with you that it is very hard to know when a line has been crossed and need to separate. I've had 3 piggys who suffered a sore patch right in the middle of the back. One I eventually blamed on dry skin from bedding as was using shavings at time (never happened again after switched), one I am certain was caused by being chased through one of those wooden willow sticks that you can curve into a tunnel and catching her hair, pulling it out. Then the last was Scrumpy a few weeks back. I suspect that may have been a spat between the boys as that is my male trio but it healed quickly and nothing else since. In all those cases I didn't separate and the groups have had no issues since but you gave them a chance and then had no choice but to separate when you saw a fight break out. You didn't see the plucking occuring before and had no way of knowing that was what was happening. It's hard to know what to do for the best some times and I think you always acted in your boys best interest and don't forget that it's easy to see things differently with hindsight. From what I know pulling hair out on a regular basis as bullying is no where near as common as pigs (especially males) getting into an all out huge chunk biting fight so it's just not something I think many of us would be looking out for. Perhaps it is all in what is the definition of a bite and with hair plucking rather than flesh biting it's knowing when to recognise it and seeing an escalating pattern occur?

I hope Fred heals quickly and glad to read that he is already popcorning and chatting. I've heard so many good things about Cerys and certain she will find Marvin a good and suitable home. I know they do homechecks as well as I've visited a couple of times but was told too far out of their area for a homecheck.
 
Wiebke said:
Sometimes, bonding sadly doesn't work out with boars, when the characters don't gel in the long run and you are not in a situation where you can let Fred choose his friend.

I am sorry that it went pearshaped with you!
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sadly some piggies that choose there friend's still fallout too! I have heard of many male bondings even when they have picked there friends falling out, I purely think it is down to the piggies, and even if Fred had have chose his friend we could very well be in this exact situation! It was unfortunate but I did give it my best shot! I would have loved for it too have worked, but sadly in life things sometimes don't work out the way we would like them too! :(
 
LesaC said:
It's so hard with these little guys as just like us they all have such unique personalities. Poor Fred does look weary in that photo. The one time my Sally got a couple of wounds on her back which appeared to be from someone pulling her hair out, or an accident or dry skin that she had scratched my vet shaved her around the wound (although was just on one site) and made it much easier to keep clean and monitor.

I agree with you that it is very hard to know when a line has been crossed and need to separate. I've had 3 piggys who suffered a sore patch right in the middle of the back. One I eventually blamed on dry skin from bedding as was using shavings at time (never happened again after switched), one I am certain was caused by being chased through one of those wooden willow sticks that you can curve into a tunnel and catching her hair, pulling it out. Then the last was Scrumpy a few weeks back. I suspect that may have been a spat between the boys as that is my male trio but it healed quickly and nothing else since. In all those cases I didn't separate and the groups have had no issues since but you gave them a chance and then had no choice but to separate when you saw a fight break out. You didn't see the plucking occuring before and had no way of knowing that was what was happening. It's hard to know what to do for the best some times and I think you always acted in your boys best interest and don't forget that it's easy to see things differently with hindsight. From what I know pulling hair out on a regular basis as bullying is no where near as common as pigs (especially males) getting into an all out huge chunk biting fight so it's just not something I think many of us would be looking out for. Perhaps it is all in what is the definition of a bite and with hair plucking rather than flesh biting it's knowing when to recognise it and seeing an escalating pattern occur?

I hope Fred heals quickly and glad to read that he is already popcorning and chatting. I've heard so many good things about Cerys and certain she will find Marvin a good and suitable home. I know they do homechecks as well as I've visited a couple of times but was told too far out of their area for a homecheck.
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As far as I know from the research I did. I didn't read anything about it but with hindsight there was things Marvin would do, which I would think strange but that was it!

Now I realise it was pure bullying, He used to sit on the top of the bridge for ages well Fred was under it, I put this down to him looking out. thinking of it now I believe he was making sure Fred couldn't get out! He was def the most dominant piggies of the two but for whatever reason that wasn't good enough for him and poor Fred never put up a fight :(! If you don't physically see them hurting one another what can you do?!

Now thinking back the pulling of the hair I more then he was biting him and happened to get a mouthful of fur which rather than spit it out he ate it, makes me realise all they wounds appearing on Fred were purely Marvin!


Hindsight is a beautiful thing...! Adleast I know the signs now!
 
Fred has the "haggis look" on that pic Joanne - he's a lovely boy & i'm sure it won't be long before he's fully healed :)
 
Fred, you little sweety.
He does look quite sheepish.

Poor little guy :(
 
I missed this one!

Poor Fred. Give him a kiss from me...
 
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