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Front Leg Paralysis?

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hi I hope someone can help me, I have a 4year old male guinea pig (Abyssinian approx 1kilo) and he's been poorly for almost a month, the first time he got ill I went to the vets and she diagnosed URI and prescribed oral baytril 0.4 per day for 1 week. After 1 week he seemed back to normal, but just a few days later he was poorly again. So I went back and she gave me another weeks dose at 0.6 per day. 1 week later I returned and they told me he could have a severe URI and gave me a months worth still at 0.6. This was 2 weeks ago, and he seems a bit better but has now lost all use of his front left leg. I think it was like it from the second time he got ill but have only realised it was his leg the last 2 weeks. The vet said the infection could have spread from his chest, nose, ear to his leg. He's eating as normal but only drinking if I give it to him myself. He hasn't hurt himself at all. Has anyone experienced this? He seems almost ok apart from this but he looks bad because he can't walk properly. He has never been ill before, thanks
 
Sorry to hear this. Can i just ask a few questions to maybe help...
What were the signs he was showing when you originally took him to the vets? Is the leg of a normal temperature(when you feel it)? Is he placing it down at all? Can he feel it when you pinch his toes (he should reflex it back towards his body)? Is his foot pink? Does he have any history of heart problems?

I have experienced front leg paralysis but not in this situation so hense the questions. As i may be able to help. He may need a different drug if Baytril isnt cutting it (which it isnt if its a URI).

Sorry for the 20 questions.

x.

Ps: where are you based? In the UK? if so then approx where?
 
Hi. We have recently had the same experience with one of our boys... blood in urine, URI, 2 weeks on Baytril, a bit better, but then stopped eating, lost use of front legs and after a late night dash to the vet, our Mielie unfortunately lost his battle.

Our vet suggested that the inability to use his front legs might be due to vitamin C deficiency. He gave us the supplement as a powder to add to the food that was being syringe fed. It is good that your boy is still eating and it might be worth to check with your vet about vitamin C intake.

I hope your boy makes a speedy recovery.
 
Sorry to hear this. Can i just ask a few questions to maybe help...
What were the signs he was showing when you originally took him to the vets? Is the leg of a normal temperature(when you feel it)? Is he placing it down at all? Can he feel it when you pinch his toes (he should reflex it back towards his body)? Is his foot pink? Does he have any history of heart problems?

I have experienced front leg paralysis but not in this situation so hense the questions. As i may be able to help. He may need a different drug if Baytril isnt cutting it (which it isnt if its a URI).

Sorry for the 20 questions.

x.

Ps: where are you based? In the UK? if so then approx where?

Hi thanks for replying, first symptoms were he had a sniffly nose sound, he stopped squeaking and lay in bed all day, after that he had crusty nose and the vet said he had laboured breathing. The leg feels warm and I can feel his pulse in it, he's got black feet but it looks/feels dead/lifeless. When I get him out he walks but badly. Still has crusty nose but seems to be going and he's much better in himself except this leg business. No previous problems ever. This sniffly nose came from another pig I recently got from the pet store. I thought it was normal when I got but she stopped doing it after a couple of weeks and soon after elvis started doing it. I got her to put them together but haven't been able to yet as don't want them both ill. I live in kent x
 
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Hi. We have recently had the same experience with one of our boys... blood in urine, URI, 2 weeks on Baytril, a bit better, but then stopped eating, lost use of front legs and after a late night dash to the vet, our Mielie unfortunately lost his battle.

Our vet suggested that the inability to use his front legs might be due to vitamin C deficiency. He gave us the supplement as a powder to add to the food that was being syringe fed. It is good that your boy is still eating and it might be worth to check with your vet about vitamin C intake.

I hope your boy makes a speedy recovery.

Hi thanks for your reply, I haven't got a vitamin C supplement but he has lots of vit C veg. I will get him one, he used to have water drops but didn't drink as much so I stopped them. Sorry to hear about your pig :( mine looked almost completely paralysed a few weeks ago, so he is better, confused about his front leg though
 
This is odd indeed. I would most definately first of all call your vet for some advice. It may well be worth sorting out getting a specialist of piggie savvy vet to take a look at him about this.

The fact that the leg is still being used (even if badly) means its not fully paralysed and may be a number of things. Its also good to know that his foot is warm with a pulse. Some of these are my ideas. (I think Vit C deficiency can be ruled out by what you say).

- A clot - These often occur in animals with heart problems (which is why i asked) and clots develop in the chambers of the heart and finally decide to break off and travel to an area of the body. They can block the main blood vessel running to a limb or limbs. The limb affected (usually both back but can sometimes be front) is usually cold to touch, lifeless, painful and has little to no pulse. This is not completely impossible for your lad to have, but hes not presenting the usual typical symptoms.

- Nerve damage - This would occur from a fall onto the effected limb or a spinal injury. (neck injury for the fore limbs, further back for the hind) This is not impossible for him to have done, even if you didn't see it happen it is very much possible. Limbs affected vary with the injury from completely useless (not movement) to a little lameness. They are still warm with a pulse and could be what your lad has.

- Infection - severe infection can track into limbs. Its unusual for something such as a URI to actually tract down to a front limb, But i suspect not impossible. I would expect the limb to be swollen, hot to touch and painful for him. He would have a temperature and be feeling quite unwell (but we know how well piggies hide illness).

- A trauma - something such as a break or strain would also cause the same symptoms. This also though i know you have said isn't impossible.

What i would consider doing is going back to the vet as soon as and would be discussing the following:-
- Firstly a better antibiotic. Baytril is becoming increasingly resistant to so many bugs as it is overused. If the vet thinks the infection may have tracked or its a bad URI then why an earth didn't they give you some different antibiotics? Zithromax would be my first choice but it may be something different thats needed.
- asking for further diagnostics. Taking your boys temperature may be a start (unless the vet has already) An xray would rule out boney injury for example. An ultrasound of the heart would rule out most heart disease. If this draws nothing up then you could...
- ask for a specialist referral for possible bloods, physical investigations or scans to find out what an earth is going on with the leg.

Sorry for my very long reply. I hope it helps a little.
Please feel free to ask more questions.
x.
 
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This is odd indeed. I would most definately first of all call your vet for some advice. It may well be worth sorting out getting a specialist of piggie savvy vet to take a look at him about this.

The fact that the leg is still being used (even if badly) means its not fully paralysed and may be a number of things. Its also good to know that his foot is warm with a pulse. Some of these are my ideas. (I think Vit C deficiency can be ruled out by what you say).

- A clot - These often occur in animals with heart problems (which is why i asked) and clots develop in the chambers of the heart and finally decide to break off and travel to an area of the body. They can block the main blood vessel running to a limb or limbs. The limb affected (usually both back but can sometimes be front) is usually cold to touch, lifeless, painful and has little to no pulse. This is not completely impossible for your lad to have, but hes not presenting the usual typical symptoms.

- Nerve damage - This would occur from a fall onto the effected limb or a spinal injury. (neck injury for the fore limbs, further back for the hind) This is not impossible for him to have done, even if you didn't see it happen it is very much possible. Limbs affected vary with the injury from completely useless (not movement) to a little lameness. They are still warm with a pulse and could be what your lad has.

- Infection - severe infection can track into limbs. Its unusual for something such as a URI to actually tract down to a front limb, But i suspect not impossible. I would expect the limb to be swollen, hot to touch and painful for him. He would have a temperature and be feeling quite unwell (but we know how well piggies hide illness).

- A trauma - something such as a break or strain would also cause the same symptoms. This also though i know you have said isn't impossible.

What i would consider doing is going back to the vet as soon as and would be discussing the following:-
- Firstly a better antibiotic. Baytril is becoming increasingly resistant to so many bugs as it is overused. If the vet thinks the infection may have tracked or its a bad URI then why an earth didn't they give you some different antibiotics? Zithromax would be my first choice but it may be something different thats needed.
- asking for further diagnostics. Taking your boys temperature may be a start (unless the vet has already) An xray would rule out boney injury for example. An ultrasound of the heart would rule out most heart disease. If this draws nothing up then you could...
- ask for a specialist referral for possible bloods, physical investigations or scans to find out what an earth is going on with the leg.

Sorry for my very long reply. I hope it helps a little.
Please feel free to ask more questions.
x.
thanks for replying, I am going to finish off the baytril and take him back to the vets about his leg as they did say the infection could have spread to it? I Don't know now after the other options you suggested? I guess time will tell. as for the baytril, my friend who works at a guinea pig sanctuary prescribed me the first lot for a URI and she recommended this new vet I'm using as the one I used before I didn't find helpful.. the vet agreed with her decision of baytril and carried on with it, they didn't offer me anything else and tbh I don't know anything about the medicines. I dont think I was clear about the leg he's not using it at all he is basically 3 legged ATM I believe he has lost all feeling but it is not painful. I will update when anything happens or once I've been back to the vet. Thanks for the help everyone :) xx
 
Hi everyone, I don't know if anyone is even reading this anymore as it's been a month but I just wanted to update on elvis' front leg paralysis.. Incase it helps someone in future. The baytril cured it! He's been having baytril for about 5 weeks now and he has finally got rid of the URI and front leg paralysis! He is back to his normal self apart from the fact that he has now somehow ended up with a fungal infection so he's a little bit bald and scaly but we are working on that. I did read somewhere that long period doses of baytril can cause a fungal infection but I have no idea whether that's true.. Anyway I thought it was pretty important to let people know that a severe URI can spread to the front legs and paralyze them and baytril seems to be a cure! Amazing! Thanks for everyone's help x
 
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