Go and see a vet?!

[esjay]

Any news on your piggies ?/

Yes...thanks for asking.....news is bad I'm afraid The patches have spread at an alarming rate in spite of 6 treatments with Mycozole over the last 3 days.
This product is a nightmare to use...I've started another thread asking if anyone has experience with it.

My husband made a formal complaint when he met with the senior partner....he apologised for the delay in treating but all he would offer is the next course of treatment...Itrafungal...at cost price if the Mycozole doesn't work.

I've been researching ringworm in this forum's cache ...it's been very helpful and I'm so glad I found this group

I've been advised by a piggy breeder to cut off their fur as closely as possible to the skin...I've done that this morning. They look awful and are now terrified of me.

 

[esjay]

Sincere apologies

I have just been reading through the forum gleaning info again and saw the post about starting a different thread for the same pig....I'm so sorry I've done exactly that and now realise why it's important to keep everything together.
I started a new thread asking about the use of Mycozole and now have to jump from one to the other.

I have one more question for Suzy if she would be so kind...... my pigs are Peruvian and although I've cut off lots of their fur would it be best to cut it all off? The bald patches show no sign of fur growing back yet after almost two weeks.

 

[Suzygpr]

I don't find there is any benefit in cutting hair off unless it is to help keep them cleaner (bum trims). The treatment is no more or less effective. I usually see hair regrowth after 7-10 days of starting the Imaverol treatment.

If you have pictures of the pigs' skin you are welcome to email them to me so I can see what's going on.

Suzy x
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[Beautifulmess]

I've been through so many vets and they've cost me £100's. I have a vet 2 hours away by bus and only accessable by car so a pain for me to get too but although she isn't amazingly knowledgable about pigs, she has compassion and a drive to learn and she doesn't question my Rodentologists advice or treatment.

She has also helped with vet fees by chargiing one consultation for 2 pigs and it only cost us £70 for a pig to stay in over night, have blood works and an xray. Which I know would of been loads with another vet. She's never told me outright if an animal is going to die but she does touch on the fact some may have things we can't see or save... She is the first vet to mention, it could be a failure of some kind and it actually be one.

Hope you don't have to visit the vets too often, remember a lot of advice is on here for simple fungal infections, i have never been the vets for one, I always treat myself.

My pig recently had a white thing over his eye so I thought he was going blind, booked a vet appointment but before hand washed eye, changed bedding and such and it was healed and sorted before I even needed to go vets, so I cancelled. He's still perfect after 2 weeks

Good luck, when you can PM, you are welcome to PM me for my Rodentologists number.

 

[esjay]

Thanks Suzy...I will......I have pictures taken a few days ago and I'll take a couple more today. I've trimmed their very long fur as I thought it may dry more quickly. They look awful but I don't care about that and I'm sure they don't!

I bought a large roll of vetbed and I wondered if I should line their plastic cage with that during treatment...or will it absorb the Imaverol and make it less effective?
At present I have them on several layers of white chip shop paper with a layer of hay on it.

One or two of the original patches are much better but others have cropped up in different areas....I'm sure I'd be on top of it by now if the vet had allowed me to keep the Imaverol he gave me and I'd been able to start treatment straight away.

 

[esjay]

Hope you don't have to visit the vets too often, remember a lot of advice is on here for simple fungal infections, i have never been the vets for one, I always treat myself.

My pig recently had a white thing over his eye so I thought he was going blind, booked a vet appointment but before hand washed eye, changed bedding and such and it was healed and sorted before I even needed to go vets, so I cancelled. He's still perfect after 2 weeks

Good luck, when you can PM, you are welcome to PM me for my Rodentologists number.

Thanks...I'll do that

I'm glad you have such a supportive vet I've moved since I kept pigs in the past and have only used my present vet for my dog...even then I see a different person every time...I didn't know they knew nothing about guinea pigs! I've spoken to several pig owners in the last week and all have recommended the same vet so I'm happier now.....you don't mind paying when you know you'll get good advice and treatment eh?

The white thing on your pigs eye....I had exactly the same thing years ago with a young pig.....rushed off to the vet who told me it had probably scratched it's eyeball on a piece of hay.....gave me some antibiotic drops and it was gone in two days

 

[esjay]

Update on ringworm

Grateful thanks to SuzyGPR...for her help with my girls
I've started the Imaverol treatment and my babies didn't seem to mind it as much as the spray treatment which came as a relief. I'm sure the Mycozole is very good on small patches but when there are so many patches to be treated and the pig is so small the dose is just not enough to cover them.

I bought F10sc to disinfect everything every time it's used and threw away the vetbed that lined the cages. Everything else that they touched has been binned and I'm using just thick layers of chip shop paper and hay to bed them on.

I'll let you know how we get on : )

 

[Wiebke]

I had ringworm at the beginning of the year; it is quite a nightmare with keeping everything disinfected (including yourself), but it is worth it!

Hopefully, you will see some success soon; at first, it will look worse as the infected hair is falling out, but it is necessary to remove the infection and it will leave hopefully fungal free skin behind.

All the best!

 

[esjay]

Thanks Wiebke....you helped me too .....so glad I found you all

 

[esjay]

Hate to tempt fate but......

I do believe my girls are getting better I've used the Imaverol twice and already their bald spots are sprouting hair!

I need to know what to do next though......I'm so scared of it coming back or getting it myself and passing it to my other animals.

When I've finished the third treatment will they still be contagious? If so for how long please?

 

[Suzygpr]

Once there is hair regrowth they are no longer considered contagious, though I think an additional 2 weeks high quarantine (using F10 to disinfect, thorough handwashing after handling, etc) is wise.

When the final treatment is given keep an eye out for a flare up - usually on the ears as a fine white dusting, repeat three rounds of Imaverol for this.

If you do develop it yourself I found Terbin-afine cream works very quickly (much more effective than Canestan). Once you have had ringworm you don't get it again so it's not all bad .

HTH

Suzy x

 

[esjay]

Once there is hair regrowth they are no longer considered contagious, though I think an additional 2 weeks high quarantine (using F10 to disinfect, thorough handwashing after handling, etc) is wise.

When the final treatment is given keep an eye out for a flare up - usually on the ears as a fine white dusting, repeat three rounds of Imaverol for this.

If you do develop it yourself I found Terbin-afine cream works very quickly (much more effective than Canestan). Once you have had ringworm you don't get it again so it's not all bad .

HTH

Suzy x

Thanks Suzy I expect your last sentence refers to humans? Or can I dare to hope that the girls won't get it again?

 

[Suzygpr]

Oh I wish! I'd let them all catch it and treat them and never have it again ! Wheeeeeeee!

Unfortunately pigs can get it again - sometimes it is latent and flares up again in the future. Direct sunlight, over heating or a dip in the immune system can trigger a flare up so always worth keeping Imverol in stock. It is also environmental so can be in the garden, carried on other animals and come in on supplies. :{

Suzy x

 

[esjay]

*GROAN*

Thanks for all your help Suzy....I'm so grateful
I was about at the end of my tether until I found this forum....I've found so much helpful advice from so many of your posts. Bless you all xx

 

[esjay]

It's 5 days since the last imaverol treatment....hair is growing back on all the bald spots but on the worst affected girl there are still tiny scabby bits...should I treat these tiny patches with diluted imaverol or will they disappear in time?

I still have some of the Mycozole left...should I spot treat with that?

Maybe I should do another round of dunking with Imaverol on both pigs just to be sure?

 

[GiGiandCoco]

The treatment regime for Imaverol is to dilute it 1 part Imaverol to 50 parts water - so to treat two piggies it would be 1 ml Imaverol to 50ml of warm water.

Soak them with the solution, be sure to wet inside their ears and get in all the folds of their skin - from the tip of their nose to the tips of the toes.

Do not rinse off, stroke out the excess and allow to dry naturally, no hair dyer or towel drying.

Repeat gain after 3 days, repeat once more 3 days later. If there is any residual fungal infection they may require another round of treatments but this is not needed usually. The normal sign of ongoing fungal issues is a dry white powder look on their ears.

Hair regrowth should start soon, they are no longer considered contagious once this happens.

HTH

Suzy x

Question: My GiGi has Ringworm too. I was told to quarantine her for 5-6 weeks, or 40 days worth of her antibiotic... But I figured it wouldn't take that long for her to no longer be contagious. She's been on her antibiotic for 10 days now, and the hair is beginning to grow back, and the scabs are almost all healed. So Is it true that if the hair is growing back that she's no longer contagious? I hate to keep her from CoCo for 4-5 more weeks! I know you're not a vet, but I trust Pig owners more than non-pig owners

 

[Claire W]

It's 5 days since the last imaverol treatment....hair is growing back on all the bald spots but on the worst affected girl there are still tiny scabby bits...should I treat these tiny patches with diluted imaverol or will they disappear in time?

I still have some of the Mycozole left...should I spot treat with that?

Maybe I should do another round of dunking with Imaverol on both pigs just to be sure?

Please do not quote me on thus but when my girl had fungal, I was told to carry on treating her for two weeks AFTER the scabs had cleared up so if I were you, I wouldn't stop treatment just yet.

 

[esjay]

Please do not quote me on thus but when my girl had fungal, I was told to carry on treating her for two weeks AFTER the scabs had cleared up so if I were you, I wouldn't stop treatment just yet.

Thanks very much Claire I emailed Suzygpr and she recommended a second round of Imaverol which I completed yesterday. I shall now keep a very close eye on them for at least a month before I allow them into the garden or give up on the F10 disinfecting....not worth risking it coming back eh?

I'm so grateful to everyone especially Suzy for all the help with this. xx>>>

 

[Claire W]

Yes, carrying on with treatment / disinfecting for a while longer won't do any harm