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Guinea pig death - unanswered questions

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Hi everyone,

Sorry if this is a long post but we lost our guinea pig on Monday night and are struggling to come to terms with it, with a lot of unanswered questions. He was elderly (nearly 7) with a number of health complaints - enlarged heart, liver problems, arthritis, cateracts - for which he was in receipt of several medicines - frusol, karidox, vetmedin, cardalis, metacam, liver aid and gabapentin. He had been very slow and losing weight for a while and so had been syringe fed and under close vetinary care.

On Monday morning I noticed he seemed a bit unsteady with a head tilt, was hard to syringe meds and he’d barely touched his food. I phoned the vet but there were no appointments until Weds. When I got home Monday night, he was the worst I had ever seen him. Lethargic, lifeless and did not seem able to hold his head up or coordinate his limbs. We decided to take him to the out of hours clinic. He deteriorated in the car and when we arrived we were told his heart rate was extremely slow, he wasn’t responding to oxygen and essentially there was nothing more that could be done so we agreed to put him to sleep.

He was a much loved family pet and we are devastated frankly. My husband is additionally inconsolable because two or three days before this happened he is worried he may have given our pig 0.2 mls of gabapentin instead of 0.09 mls because he got mixed up with metacam.

- Would this accidental overdose two or three days prior have caused this response or was it more likely a heart attack or a stroke?
- Was there anything else we could have done to save our pig? Should we have waited to see our normal experienced vet?

It all happened so quickly and we were too distressed to ask questions. We feel so guilty for not doing more and possibly being in some way to blame. Any info or guidance from those of you with vetinary background and/or experience of pigs with the same conditions would be much appreciated

Thanks
 
I don't know much about piggy medicine so I can't give any advice, but I'm so sorry for your loss.
 
7 year old with all those complications, personally I think he went because of his age and the health problems. My daisy wouldn't last on that. I'm sorry for you.
I couldn't say about meds. Daisy has metacam for her leg and that's it so I can't get mixed up.
 
I'm sorry for your loss. Please don't beat yourself up over this. Your piggy was very old and had many health issues. Sometimes the pull of the rainbow bridge is strong and it is just their time to pass over. He obviously had a great life and you made the right decision for him as it was out of love.
RIP little piggy.
 
Every time I lose a piggy I wonder what I missed or what I could have done differently. It’s a natural part of the grieving process. Be kind to yourself. He had a good life, was loved and cherished. Not all piggies get that. Popcorn free little fellow xx
 
So sorry for your loss.
Wondering if we could have done something different is a natural part of grief.
It’s a tribute to your love and care that he lived to be 7 with all those health issues
 
Hi everyone,

Sorry if this is a long post but we lost our guinea pig on Monday night and are struggling to come to terms with it, with a lot of unanswered questions. He was elderly (nearly 7) with a number of health complaints - enlarged heart, liver problems, arthritis, cateracts - for which he was in receipt of several medicines - frusol, karidox, vetmedin, cardalis, metacam, liver aid and gabapentin. He had been very slow and losing weight for a while and so had been syringe fed and under close vetinary care.

On Monday morning I noticed he seemed a bit unsteady with a head tilt, was hard to syringe meds and he’d barely touched his food. I phoned the vet but there were no appointments until Weds. When I got home Monday night, he was the worst I had ever seen him. Lethargic, lifeless and did not seem able to hold his head up or coordinate his limbs. We decided to take him to the out of hours clinic. He deteriorated in the car and when we arrived we were told his heart rate was extremely slow, he wasn’t responding to oxygen and essentially there was nothing more that could be done so we agreed to put him to sleep.

He was a much loved family pet and we are devastated frankly. My husband is additionally inconsolable because two or three days before this happened he is worried he may have given our pig 0.2 mls of gabapentin instead of 0.09 mls because he got mixed up with metacam.

- Would this accidental overdose two or three days prior have caused this response or was it more likely a heart attack or a stroke?
- Was there anything else we could have done to save our pig? Should we have waited to see our normal experienced vet?

It all happened so quickly and we were too distressed to ask questions. We feel so guilty for not doing more and possibly being in some way to blame. Any info or guidance from those of you with vetinary background and/or experience of pigs with the same conditions would be much appreciated

Thanks

Hi and welcome!

I think that it was just his time; the overdose is not so large as to cause his death. There is nothing more you could have done for him. It is so easy to forget just how small and fragile bodies piggies have!
When they get to this old/frail stage, it doesn't take much to tip the already very tenuous balance and the end usually comes rather quickly and often very devastatingly as the immune system is so weak. This is worse when you have never experienced this and are not braced for the possibility of it. It can basically be anything when you get to that stage - like the smallest breath can topple a house a cards. Nothing you can do about it and not your fault. Just coming up against the laws of nature and the end of what we can do. :(

Feelings of guilt and failure are typical for the onset of the grieving process. All they tell us is that you are a good and loving owner and that your boy could not have been in a better place or have a better life. The soul searching is the other side of the same coin and an expression of your strong sense of responsibility.

Take pride in that he has live to the top of the average life expectancy thanks to your good care and his medical support!

The best thing you can do is to talk at this stage. The Blue Cross has got a free phoneline and also an email service for pet bereavement (UK only; for other countries you have to google for your local services). SupportLine - Problems: Pet Bereavement: Advice, support and information

You may also find the the current and the last (as well as the next) Guinea Pig Magazine issue helpful which is dealing with coping with loss, saying goodbye and grieving. Guinea Pig Mag
 
Thank you everyone for your replies and reassurance. You are very kind. I know realistically that we did the best we could for him I just wish I could say something to make my husband feel better as he is convinced that if it wasn’t for his mistake our pig would have been ok - or at least ok as he could have been at 7 with lots of health issues. I’m pretty sure this isn’t true, and I’ve told him i don’t blame him but I’m not a vet at the end of the day 😢
 
Thank you everyone for your replies and reassurance. You are very kind. I know realistically that we did the best we could for him I just wish I could say something to make my husband feel better as he is convinced that if it wasn’t for his mistake our pig would have been ok - or at least ok as he could have been at 7 with lots of health issues. I’m pretty sure this isn’t true, and I’ve told him i don’t blame him but I’m not a vet at the end of the day 😢

Your husband may find it helpful to speak to your treating vet and also to the Blue Cross. That is the best way to allaying his guilt.
 
I am so sorry for your loss :( We can all sympathise with you, most of us have lost an elderly piggy in similar circumstances & we all feel such terrible guilt afterwards, even when there really isn't much else we could of done at the time. Please reassure your husband (What a lovely man he is to love these little creatures btw) that heart failure in guinea pigs is common at that age, nothing he did would have contributed to what happened. 7 years old is a very old age for a piggy, I've only had one reach that age & like you, felt I was in some way to blame when she passed away, as if I could have done things differently, but I think all loving owners will feel that way because we are so attached. Feel blessed that you had such a long time with your boy & how much he was loved is a testament to how great you have been as owners & what a lucky piggy he was :)
 
So sorry for your loss. Having a piggy for 7 years makes them so much a part of your family, what your feeling is very natural. It's so hard, please try and be kind to yourself.
I used the Blue cross pet bereavement service when my 6 year old piggy died. It helps to talk to someone who understands.
Sending hugs.
sleep tight little piggy. xx
 
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