Guinea pig dehydration?

Diane48

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Hi guys,

I've been obsessing over my guinea pigs death over a month ago and maybe sharing and getting feedback from guinea pig owners will help.

My guinea pigs name was Upa and she was about to turn 8 years old. A week before they passed I got her a new wooden hide out (her other one is plastic) that was bigger and tight in her cage. I think it stressed her out. She was on and off with eating for over a year and during that week I thought it was just one of those times. She wasn't eating much before the new hide out and after, but she wasn't leaving the new hide out.

My dog was euthenized June 9th. The next day i got upa a play pen and she didn't move much. She had hay, pellets, 2 hide outs, and a water bowl that i used to use in her bigger cage before i moved into another room. She took a bite of her carrot that morning and a bite of apple that night. She was more interested in eating the papertowel the apples were on and i pulled it out her cage. She was going from hide out to hide out dragging it because her stomach was big idk why maybe overweight/bloat. I kept her in the pen all day and night.

The next day she didn't move much too. I decided to bring her out by where we buried my dog and poured some water on the grass to hopefully get rid of whatever residue the smoke from canada had on the grass she ate. She ate the grass and slowly closed her eyes and stopped eating. I thought it was odd bc she never did that. Her poops were irregular the day before too but that happened sometimes when she stopped eating salads and then went back to normal. I knew something was up though. It was guinea pig laundry day and I finished her laundry and her cage around 5pm and put her back in it with her old hide out.

*Guinea pig death below*
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She denied the salad but later took a bite of watermellon and ran back into her hide out. I got myself pizza late. I was eating it and it occurred to me that she hasn't been drinking. I put water in a syringe and started googling vet hours. I was watching her and she just slopped over with the hide out halfway on her. I ran and got my sister. Took off the hide out and she had 2 spasms (lower and upper). One made her back legs spread out. I got the syringe and and gave her water. Wasn't sure if I got it in her mouth so I got the watermellon to try that. She started to open and close her mouth. I didnt know what to do and my sister said maybe she'll be more comfortable in the dark so I turned off the light and laid in bed and talked on the phone. A hour or so later I decided to move her and she was stiff. I was so upset that i may have contributed with the syringe and that i help a watermellon to her face as she was dying. Also that I didn't sit by her cage.

Next day I had my ex dig up Pirate, her old cage mate I buried in my ex boyfriends back yard in a plastic bag that I regretted since, to bury her with upa next to my dog. I took the plastic bag off pirates box was in and put her in a paper bag on top of upas box.
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I was throwing out her stuff and saw a bottle cleaner I never used. It hit me that i havent been cleaning her bottle right. I only cleaned the spout an handful of times with a q tip and last time had to be almost a year ago. A few months before she passed I started to put white vinegar and water let it sit in her bottle for 15 minutes then rinsed it once a week. Every day i rinsed her bottle (glass) and got new water from the fridge. It was also high up but the fleece would bend at the sides and she used to out her front paws on that when she drank. Wish I put the bottle inside and kept using the bowl (took it out because smaller cage and stuff would get in it faster). Wish I also scrubbed her bottle clean and cleaned the spout on a regular. I decided to check how bad it was and the bottle was indeed dirty both the spout and bottle. Ugh.

I googled more. I found out I gave her too many veggies, fruit, and pellets. I think she was overweight. Googled her cage and turns out because the bottom part goes in the floor space is below minimum requirement of 7.7 by about 2 square feet. She should've had a friend, a bigger cage, more floor time, less food, and a clean bottle.

I think she was stressed out in her new pen. I should've put the water bowl closer to her hide out. I think that contributed to her death.

Was it dehydration? Dirty water bottle? Depression? Overweight? Stress? Old age? What could've caused this?

Below is a picture I took of her a few weeks before she passed.

Thank you for your time.
 

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I am sorry to hear of your loss, unfortunately there is no way we would be able to know what happened.
I am also sorry to hear you were not educated on caring properly for pigs, there is a lot of misinformation out there but by the way you speak it seems you certainly didn't do anything wrong on purpose and I can tell how much you loved your pig.
In all honesty, due to her age it could have been a multitude of things, including old age. Also 8 is a fantastic age, so you can not have been going too wrong.

I would not say it was due to you not cleaning the bottle. I never used to clean my bottle, when I was younger, and even now and then I sometimes forget to clean it weekly as my life is so busy, and none of my pigs have came to any harm.
I have never heard of cleaning their bottles with vinegar, and I personally would not do that as I would not want any vinegar taste to linger in the bottle and discourage my pigs from drinking. To clean my pigs bottle I shake with warm water and sometimes I put some rice in the bottle as well, then rinse it thoroughly.

I do think it is great that you are learning more about how to care for pigs, and you understand mistakes you have made but in this case it doesn't sound like her death was directly caused by improper care. Even the best of owners have lost pigs like how you describe, including me, as there is always only so much we can do.
I will attach the "starter" guide to guinea pigs, it contains just about any information you could need. Although I do understand you are not a new owner, it contains alot of information about everything you spoke about doing 'incorrectly'.
New Owners' Essential Information and Practical Tips Starter Collection
Death, Dying, Terminal Illness; Human Grieving and Bereaved Companions: Information and Support for Owners and Their Children

Be kind to yourself x
 
So sorry for your loss.
8 is a great age for a piggy and as @piggl says, her death may just be old age.
None of us are perfect slaves but you gave Upa a life filled with love.
Be gentle and kind with yourself as you grieve
 
I am sorry to hear of your loss, unfortunately there is no way we would be able to know what happened.
I am also sorry to hear you were not educated on caring properly for pigs, there is a lot of misinformation out there but by the way you speak it seems you certainly didn't do anything wrong on purpose and I can tell how much you loved your pig.
In all honesty, due to her age it could have been a multitude of things, including old age. Also 8 is a fantastic age, so you can not have been going too wrong.

I would not say it was due to you not cleaning the bottle. I never used to clean my bottle, when I was younger, and even now and then I sometimes forget to clean it weekly as my life is so busy, and none of my pigs have came to any harm.
I have never heard of cleaning their bottles with vinegar, and I personally would not do that as I would not want any vinegar taste to linger in the bottle and discourage my pigs from drinking. To clean my pigs bottle I shake with warm water and sometimes I put some rice in the bottle as well, then rinse it thoroughly.

I do think it is great that you are learning more about how to care for pigs, and you understand mistakes you have made but in this case it doesn't sound like her death was directly caused by improper care. Even the best of owners have lost pigs like how you describe, including me, as there is always only so much we can do.
I will attach the "starter" guide to guinea pigs, it contains just about any information you could need. Although I do understand you are not a new owner, it contains alot of information about everything you spoke about doing 'incorrectly'.
New Owners' Essential Information and Practical Tips Starter Collection
Death, Dying, Terminal Illness; Human Grieving and Bereaved Companions: Information and Support for Owners and Their Children

Be kind to yourself x
Thank you sooooo much! This post really helped :)
 
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