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Guinea Pig Pneumonia... double check the medications!

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Hey there, just thought Id post a new thread about my poor little piggies condition. I'm not sure if there is already another one about pneumonia on here, but just in case there isn't and another poor piggie fall ill...

A couple of days ago I found my poor munchkin Charlie struggling to breathe. I had gone to their cage for feeding time and normally Charlie is the first to come up and pop his head up for food, squeeking but this time I found him hiding under a little house. At first it seemed he was trying to squeak but couldn't, then I quickly realised he couldn't even breathe properly. I thought he was choking on grass I had fed them earlier..I quickly got him out of the cage and took him for a 25min drive to the only 24hr vet to get help...

The vet was unsure whether he was choking or had pneumonia, the xray didnt show anything and he didnt seem to be drooling, which apparently is common with food stuck in the throat..

Charlie was put on antibiotics straight away for either case, to keep him strong... I was given a medicine called "Clavulox" or something similar. I assumed the vet knew what he was doing, thought nothing of it, the next morning I gave Charlie another dose of his medication...His breathing had not improved, possibly worsened. He would stretch his throat out and gasp.. Very hard to listen to knowing he was struggling and I couldn't do anything more to help :-(

Later that day I read on the net that guinea pigs cannot be administered Amoxycilin or Penicillin...

That night I went to give him his 3rd dose as he was still in very bad shape and read on the box... it had in bold letters... Do Not Give to Herbivores eg/ Guinea Pigs.... I almost died!

I rang the vet straight away annoyed that he had given me something that was NOT to be used on guinea pigs! What was he thinking?!

I spoke to another vet there, who was confused as to why his colleague had administered that medicine as well and told me to stop immediately..Later I went back to the Vet and they had prepared a 2nd medication to give Charlie..This one was "Baltrin"

Now, 3 days later Charlie has slowly gotten his appetite back, just nibbling, only just and is no longer gasping for air..He is still a little slow and not chirpy but thats expected..Hopefully not too long now and he will be 100% better...I figured it was in the end pneumonia as it is common in Guinea Pigs and not him choking

So, for anyone else out there who finds their guinea pig gasping for air here is his symptoms and just a reminder to double check what the vet gives to your little buddy!

Symptoms: No appetite, no animation, gasping for air, sticking his nose up in the air when they breathe in, the noise sounds a little crackly, definately blocked, breathing is laboured, and mouth always wide open. Breathing also very shallow..Cannot make any noises, no squeeking, eeking, purring. Just gasps... :-(

Make sure you seperate your ill pig away from healthy ones as it is very contagious apparently. To help, make ure you give the right antibiotics, keep them warm, and comfortable. I also fed Charlie water with a seperate syringe and also blended a carrot with some water into a liquid so I could syringe that into him as well, for some nutrition, only little bits, as he wasnt eating or drinking. I think this helped a little.

Hope this helps anybody in the future..
 
you should sue, no really you should If he gave you something that could kill your pet then talk to a lawyer. I'd glad you little one is doing better!
 
I do hope Charlie makes a full recovery - he sounds like a fighter. Cricital care is very good for ailing piggies as it has a lot of nutrients they need, perhaps supplementing his diet with this might speed up recovery too. Keeping him hydrated was essential, watery veg now could help as well.

And I'm probably saying stuff you know already - sorry! Thanks for the information about pneumonia. A useful description of the symptoms there.
 
Thats handy to know...my piggy Scruff was mis diagnosed and also given too little medication this week which sadly lead to her death.

I would hope the vet practice in question have offered the treatment free of charge- i would also consider taking it further.

The good thing is Charlie has survived and will recover .Well done you for looking out on his behalf !
 
Hiya - Welcome to the forum, and what a story! Thank God that poor Charlie has survived!

Are you giving Charlie some probiotic to help counter the effect of the antibiotics on his guts and make him feel better? You can get some from the vets or even pet @ home.
 
Many guinea pigs are diagnosed as having pneumonia when, in fact, they have hay-fever. This can account why the "pneumonia" treatment does not have any effect.
Penicillin toxicity is insidious, a guinea pig may seem not to have been affected but can die a week after the inital administration of the drug.
 
Thank you for sharing poor Charlie''s story. I would be livid with the vets and I'd write a very strong worded letter to his seniors at the surgery! I'd be wary of the pneumonia "diagnosis" until you get a second opinion - I would not trust anything the original vet said after what he prescribed. Can you confirm the name of the med he is on now? As Lou said, I have had no luck in finding any medication by the name of Baltrin. Baytril or Septrin are the usual antibiotics given.

The gasping is the one symptom that does concern me, I have not heard of an allergy such as hayfever causing such "severe" symptoms. I'd certainly get a second opinion from a good vet ASAP, if it is pneumonia (infection on the lungs) a diuretic will be important. I have no doubt the diuretic saved the life of a sow of mine who had pneumonia two years ago.
 
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Hi guys,

firstly thank for all the well wishes for Charlie. He is still on the mend, but getting much better now :-) Almost there, today he started making some little noises again when i rustled the food bags lol xx>>>


As for the medication, massive apologies for an error. The second medication was actually BAYTRIL. i dunno what drugs I was on when I typed that lol...So for those that looked for Baltrin, sorry again! Thanks for pointing that out though!

Um, so far I'm still thinking it was Pneumonia as the medications he was given has seemed to work, I have a couple of days to go with that. 2x 0.2ml serves a day..I dont think it is a hay fever allergy as they didnt actually have any hay in there cage at the point of illness.. And neither of my pigs have reacted this way to any hay before, Ive had them both now for 18month, they are my first guinea pigs and I love them :-) I wasnt allowed a dog and found an image of pigs online and read about them and have been hooked since. Bought them at 8wks of age, a pair of brothers. Would of been devastating for both Arnold (his big brother) and me if Charlie didnt make it!

As for the vet, they did give me the second medication free of charge and have reimbursed me for the original medication..Any suggestions for a probiotic or diuretic? I'm new to all this so any advice is much appreciated.. Seem * fellow owners know more than my vet lol....

Thanks again
 
Bio Lapsis is the most common brand. You can get it from the vets, if they are close by. There is also a brand of probiotics sold in P'H stores, if one is closer (sorry, I don't know the name of it).

Baytril is quite hard on the guts (you may have noticed his poos going a bit soft). Probiotics help counter the effect of any antibiotic on the digestive system and make him feel better in himself.

I'm so glad that Charlie is getting better!
 
Ah right I did look as well! :) Baytril can upset the tummy so pro biotic can be given to restore gut flora http://www.guinealynx.info/probiotics.html here is some info on probiotics.

Vicky Vetark Pro-C Probiotic is available in petshops. Just had a look on Pets at Home store but couldn't see it. May have it in store though or any larger store should have it.
 
Thanks heaps for the suggetions. Ill definately have to get my hands on a probiotic then... anything to help them :-)
 
Hi Love and a huge welcome to the forum from us in OZ (aka Australia) xxxxxxxxx
Oh gosh so sorry to hear about your horrible situation with your precious Charlie xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx x)x)
I've read thru your post and i'm very relieved to hear he's on meds and responding........don't fuss about you not typing your words correctly hey when us mum's / dad's are stressed out with our babies we will have lots of problems we all understand xxxxxxxxxxx
When our boy was dianosed with pneumonia it was thru a blood test ........his immune system was not good :p
I do hope Charlie will bounce back......xx>>>xx>>>xx>>>xx>>>

I might be from OZ but i know that when you have your piggie on antibiotics he/she needs probiotics they so save their gut........i see they're all giving you advice as to which one.

All paws crossed for the little guy xxxxxxx
 
Hey there Glynis,
awesome to here you are in Oz, So am i :) I am on the Gold Coast though..

When your piggy wa diagnosed with pnuemonia, did he struggle with breathing, or was it just purely through the blood test that you realised? That's the main thing Charlie had, his breaths were more like gasps that were short and shallow..
As Ive said I'm only fairly new to Guinea Pigs so I am just assuming it was Pneumonia as the symptoms fit, we had a week of very cold weather leading up to his illness and the antibiotics worked, so that's my amatuer conclusion lol..

Also, what probiotic did * use? Since we;re both in Australia we might have different products than our overseas friends.
 
Hey there Glynis,
awesome to here you are in Oz, So am i :) I am on the Gold Coast though..

When your piggy wa diagnosed with pnuemonia, did he struggle with breathing, or was it just purely through the blood test that you realised? That's the main thing Charlie had, his breaths were more like gasps that were short and shallow..
As Ive said I'm only fairly new to Guinea Pigs so I am just assuming it was Pneumonia as the symptoms fit, we had a week of very cold weather leading up to his illness and the antibiotics worked, so that's my amatuer conclusion lol..

Also, what probiotic did * use? Since we;re both in Australia we might have different products than our overseas friends.

Gidday!
I noticed Duke's breathing was raspy.....he had lots of tests done and they diagnosed pneumonia.
Well i was lucky and had a lovely lady on here send me some probiotics to help Duke :)

So how's Charlie now?
You've had crazy weather, heaps of rain :{
what part of QLD are you?
 
Oh how lucky! I have to go back the vet soon to get my refund for the dodgy medications so I will ask the vet there that gave me the good stuff for some probiotics :-)

Yea the weather has been a bit all over the place, the sun came back today though.. I'm on the Gold Coast. (South East QLD) 8)
 
Oh how lucky! I have to go back the vet soon to get my refund for the dodgy medications so I will ask the vet there that gave me the good stuff for some probiotics :-)

Yea the weather has been a bit all over the place, the sun came back today though.. I'm on the Gold Coast. (South East QLD) 8)

theres a few of us aussies here now;) x
 
hi, i've only just joined this forum so am a bit confused about how to use it!
one of our girls has pneumonia, we took her to the vet yesterday evening and he gave her some antibiotics. she's really off her food though, can you suggest anything that we could sringe feed her? so far we've tried ribena and baby food. also, she's really missing her friends. we've kept thm apart since last night as neumonia is contagious.
best wishes to charlie! lets hope minnie (our piggie) goes the same way as him!
becca
 
hi, i've only just joined this forum so am a bit confused about how to use it!
one of our girls has pneumonia, we took her to the vet yesterday evening and he gave her some antibiotics. she's really off her food though, can you suggest anything that we could sringe feed her? so far we've tried ribena and baby food. also, she's really missing her friends. we've kept thm apart since last night as neumonia is contagious.
best wishes to charlie! lets hope minnie (our piggie) goes the same way as him!
becca

Hi Becca - this thread is nearly a year old. Could you please start your own thread as you will get more (and the right) answers that way.

Go to health and illness and click on the button at the top left that says "new thread". Thanks!

As to feeding, if you give pellets, you can soak those in a bit of warm water and hand feed those. Critical Care or Science Recovery from the vets are both powders specifically made for feeding animals that have stopped eating on their own. Ribena is not good because the amount of sugar.
 
Hi Becca, Laura here, we spoke earlier regarding Minnie. Did you find the syringe-feeding factsheet useful with regards to what to feed, how much, how often etc.?

If you can do as Wiebke suggests, make a thread just for Minnie, you'll be able to keep track of any advice you're given much easier.
 
hi, i've only just joined this forum so am a bit confused about how to use it!
one of our girls has pneumonia, we took her to the vet yesterday evening and he gave her some antibiotics. she's really off her food though, can you suggest anything that we could sringe feed her? so far we've tried ribena and baby food. also, she's really missing her friends. we've kept thm apart since last night as neumonia is contagious.
best wishes to charlie! lets hope minnie (our piggie) goes the same way as him!
becca

Hi!

This is a 10 year old thread. Our forum knowledge and resources have changed and evolved a lot in the meantime. ;)
 
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