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Help I Think Coco Is Dying

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@helen105281 You just reminded me, she briefly mentioned something about possible respiratory disease but I didn't really understand what she meant.

emm, i've not really noticed much of a difference with the metacam. The only think i can say is that the teeth grinding is constant, but on the metacam i THINK she does it more quietly and I dont know if I'm imagining it or just want to believe it, but she seems a little bit more comfortable.
 
I would think it would be helping. Could you ask your vet about it? and also ask her to repeat what she said about respiratory disease?
 
Healing vibes to coco!

With the teeth grinding, if you feed her does it stop?

Btw ^ that probably sounds absurd
 
@The Furry Godmother like while she's eating or after she's eaten?
I'm gunna feed her in an hour after ive tidied up and changed my white bed sheets that are covered in critical care and mashed pellets! I'll be able to tell you then :hb:
 
Yeah, see Frank was doing that the other week when he was a bit poorly. When he wasn't eating and when he was. Seemed to me to be linked to pain as his teeth are fine, had them checked and was checking them everyday myself, but it sounded awful. (He was on metacam). After about 3-5 days once the metacam dosage change and was split perfectly into two doses, it seemed to stop.

Although now, he's linked it with his mush, so when he wants food he chatters his teeth and gives me evils. Even does it if he's finished his mouthful and is sick of waiting for the next! Haha.

Also, your sheets sound like mine, except there now stained with poop and mush. Lush!
 
@The Furry Godmother oh dear :( poor little franky boy. Yeah, looking after guinea pigs really is sexy business.
Cokes has been tilting her head to the right when she's chewing and making really exaggerated chewing motions when she does it.

I've managed to get her to eat 3 pellets all swollen with water, a little slice of cucumber cut into teeny wee squares and a couple of spinach leaves chopped up, a sprinkle of readigrass chopped up tiny & 4ml of baby food and 1ml of water today and still NOT ONE SINGLE PEE OR POO! its starting to worry me, its been nearly 24 hours :(
 
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@The Furry Godmother oh dear :( poor little franky boy. Yeah, looking after guinea pigs really is sexy business.
Cokes has been tilting her head to the right when she's chewing and making really exaggerated chewing motions when she does it.

I've managed to get her to eat 3 pellets all swollen with water, a little slice of cucumber cut into teeny wee squares and a couple of spinach leaves chopped up, a sprinkle of readigrass chopped up tiny & 4ml of baby food and 1ml of water today and still NOT ONE SINGLE PEE OR POO! its starting to worry me, its been nearly 24 hours :(
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Is she on any gut stim? Emeprid/metachlopromide?
 
yeah Lee, i remembered what you said and asked. She gave me Ranitidine solution (0.23ml 2x daily) I gave her it about 12 oclock.
 
Coco&Luna said:
@The Furry Godmother oh dear :( poor little franky boy. Yeah, looking after guinea pigs really is sexy business.
Cokes has been tilting her head to the right when she's chewing and making really exaggerated chewing motions when she does it.

I've managed to get her to eat 3 pellets all swollen with water, a little slice of cucumber cut into teeny wee squares and a couple of spinach leaves chopped up, a sprinkle of readigrass chopped up tiny & 4ml of baby food and 1ml of water today and still NOT ONE SINGLE PEE OR POO! its starting to worry me, its been nearly 24 hours :(
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Stressfully sexy ;)

Did they check her back teeth?

Bless her little heart, your doing amazing though. I'm a bit concerned she hasn't pee'd or poo'd though.

Frank sometimes gets food like, idk, but he does this weird thing with his mouth where he looks like something's stuck in the roof of his mouth or something and he's manipulating it, is it like this or different? And they proper stretch there mouths around, always freaks me out ha.

He doesn't tilt his head though.

Could just be also maybe she doesn't have much energy atm, especially if she's not eating much, Frank has a range of complex issues, so he has limited energy - doesn't stop him mind you, super pig he is, but yeah.

Give her some more water if you can, aim for about 1ml per 5ml food?
I think, that's what I do anyway!
I'd try and aim for about 120ml a day as well.

Come on little lady. !
 
Coco&Luna said:
yeah Lee, i remembered what you said and asked. She gave me Ranitidine solution (0.23ml 2x daily) I gave her it about 12 oclock.
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Cool, that is Zantac... it may be worth asking for some emeprid also - it works on another part of the gut.
 
@The Furry Godmother yes, that what she does, its like somethings stuck behind her teeth or something and shes trying to get it out! what has Frank the tank been diagnosed with? They sound similar. I remember the vet thinking this was arthritic degeneration of her jaw a few weeks ago, but she seems to have changed her mind to this neurological thing
Poor franky, god, you's have been dealing with that for a while havnt you? I didn't realise he was such a problem child these days. lol, poor boy :(
120m!?!? ffs its bad enough geting her to take 1ml! I might go throw myself out the window now.

She just sitting all puffed up with her eyes shut, but she brightens up when I start footering about at her.

swear to god.....I bet a dinosaur would be easier to look after.
 
Lee, can she take the emaprid and the zantac at the same time?
& do you know how long is too long when waiting for a pee or poop to appear?
 
She can take both...and it's good she's got both.

It can be anything up to 48hrsbefore you see any poos at all...and even then they may look like airgun pellets - but you need to have faith and persist with guts meds and syringe feeding to get the guts back to normal......which can take an extra 72hrs after the first 48hrs (IYSWIM)
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@The Furry Godmother yes, that what she does, its like somethings stuck behind her teeth or something and shes trying to get it out! what has Frank the tank been diagnosed with? They sound similar. I remember the vet thinking this was arthritic degeneration of her jaw a few weeks ago, but she seems to have changed her mind to this neurological thing
Poor franky, god, you's have been dealing with that for a while havnt you? I didn't realise he was such a problem child these days. lol, poor boy :(
120m!?!? ffs its bad enough geting her to take 1ml! I might go throw myself out the window now.

She just sitting all puffed up with her eyes shut, but she brightens up when I start footering about at her.

swear to god.....I bet a dinosaur would be easier to look after.
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We're still not certain, he's a very unusual case, as there's a lot going on - he doesn't just have one issue. Anywho, I won't put it all on here, however he does have arthritis - therefore I feel this could be relevant.
Seeing as they both do the jaw thing?
Tagging @Piggly as she knows about Frank so can help us to some extent!

Yeh, he dropped down to 580g, so needed to stringe feed for ages now, and he was 644g today (vets goal is 650g; mine is 700g).

I've never got to the 120ml but he's never stopped toileting, erm, just get as much down her as you can yourself, then leave some softened pellets with her she can eat off her own accord. Something I was told Saturday; perseverance.

Bless her heart she must be feeling so rubbish :( have you been giving prpbiptic?
 
I'm really sorry your going though this,

I hope the your vet can discover what's wrong with her and hopefully she can make a recovery.

Your doing great with her!

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@The Furry Godmother Theres nothing worse than constant trips to the vets and never finding out whats going on. Sometimes it feels like any diagnosis would be better than nothing. Its so horrible. poor you and frank.

the description of franks jaw sounds really really like her & the pain and tooth grinding.
The vets checked her back teeth and said all her teeth look perfect, but she's getting them double checked under anesthetic, but she doesnt think we'll find anything wrong with her teeth or jaw. So I'll be on the same boat as you probably by tuesday.
The vet's saying it might be neurologial because she cant find anything visibly wrong with her and thinks it must be the only other explanation.

Oh god, thats tiny! 644g is much better, Coco is 660 just now. I remember panicking a few weeks ago because she'd dropped down to 800g......Now id love her to be that weight! lol. It would be so much easier if she wasnt so agro everytime i try help her with anything though! :hb:

edit: i dont have any probiotics, i've never used one. :/
 
Coco&Luna said:
@The Furry Godmother Theres nothing worse than constant trips to the vets and never finding out whats going on. Sometimes it feels like any diagnosis would be better than nothing. Its so horrible. poor you and frank.

the description of franks jaw sounds really really like her & the pain and tooth grinding.
The vets checked her back teeth and said all her teeth look perfect, but she's getting them double checked under anesthetic, but she doesnt think we'll find anything wrong with her teeth or jaw. So I'll be on the same boat as you probably by tuesday.
The vet's saying it might be neurologial because she cant find anything visibly wrong with her and thinks it must be the only other explanation.

Oh god, thats tiny! 644g is much better, Coco is 660 just now. I remember panicking a few weeks ago because she'd dropped down to 800g......Now id love her to be that weight! lol. It would be so much easier if she wasnt so agro everytime i try help her with anything though! :hb:

edit: i dont have any probiotics, i've never used one. :/
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Internees dodgy!

Erm, yup 1000's pounds later and still not 100% sure, still me and him have an amazing bond and he's very good with meds and syrine feeding thankfully!

Hmm, when she's better and her weights up I would consider the x-Ray with a whiff of gas, so she can determine if it is arthritis, that would be most helpful to you. Then you know yay or nay! And then what's the next step!

Bless them :(
 
Have faith - you have a qualified army out here on the interwebby all rootling for you and Coco with various advice and experience -
Please don;t split and separate each of us...
Together combined ..given ALL your recent info regarding Coco currently - we are all much stronger and can give you the very best of help to enable you you to help her.
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Sorry this never sent;

Ah, erm, she should have a pinch of prpbiptic mixed with 1ml of water an hour after baytril :)

Can get one from pets at home, or Bio Lapis is a good one on amazon, but would prob take a while to get to you - vets have it.

I use AviPro plus atm x
 
P@H nuggets seem to have got a lot smaller, size wise, maybe she might be better having some of that as well asa a temptation? BonBon loves the fact the nuggets are smaller, easier to fit in her mouth. Good for the oldies I think, left difficult to chew.
 
I'm afraid I cant help much - @The Furry Godmother has given all good advice on feeding etc and @Pebble is second to none with good meds advice!

Have the vets looked at her back teeth properly? If they give her a little gas for an xray its certainly worth a really good look inside her mouth at the same time.

Good luck to the poor girl x
 
They didn't have put Liquorice out when she had a head xray, she just sat there and let them get on with it. Some behave better than others. I'd rather try and avoid knocking out an already compromised poorly piggy if it can be avoided.
 
@Coco&Luna
We all feel for you in your current posiiion.,
Everyone here on the forum has given their best and experienced advice. Sometimes it may not be quite enough.
I have thererfore sent you a PM. to extrapolate and contunue this conversation
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I'm so grateful to all of you. like i said before, honestly don't know what i'd do sometimes without you guys! You comments have been super helpful. Shes looking good just now (a big scruffy and tired though and shes usually a sleek on-the-ball buisness woman) sorry if ive no been replying properly, my heads up my bum! lol

@BonBon2010 The vet said that its generally easy to xray the body without a GA, but their heads move so much that its usually impossible. I'm gunna ask her to give it a go without one first, she probably will anyway, she usually does when they go for xrays.
Thank you, the little pellets is a good idea! I have little tiny harrington pellets, ill wet them and give that a go too. totally forgot about them!
 
@Pebble Thats good to know about the poop thing, its officially 24 hours since she done anything and I was starting to feel the anxiety rising!
 
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