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Help I Think Coco Is Dying

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@Piggly Shes gunna have a good swatch around her mouth when shes under getting the anesthetic (try cram in a wee nail clipping too if possible, lol). I don't know why and i might be totally wrong, but watching her behaviour since this all started, it looks unbelievably like dental issues and i cant stop bringing my head back round to thinking that it is dental. the only thing that's picking apart my belief is.....her teeth are apparently fine! lol
 
Its good to cover as many bases as possible at the vets if the cause is unclear so the more that is checked in and around her head while shes out for the count, the more likely it is a cause might be found.
 
If your sure it's dental it can't hurt to get a second opinion. I've had quite a few dental's done by Glen. I'd recommend him highly.
 
Definitely worthwhile Glen dentistry is next to none. I've never had a pig not start eating straight away. Fred used to get his teeth done reguarly. Patrick had a few dental's, as did Milo and Wilma.

He does try to do them consciously when possible, Fred is much to flighty for that he gets a little sedative to take the edge off.
 
I think glen will be my first option, I'm sure he's only an hour away from me if I remember right. I think the vet believes the only option is to wait for it to progress and have her put to sleep if the xrays come back with nothing. But i can't do that, shes perfectly happy and healthy apart from the fact she chokes on her food and struggles to eat. I'd never be able to live with myself if i didn't give her the best chance. I'll wait and see what happens on tuesday. & speak to pebble and see what she thinks.
 
We had a little girl who choked and struggled with food but she was an old lady of 6 with a range of issues. How old is Coco? Fluffy found it easier to eat when the pellets were moistened and all her food was up higher than the floor, ie we put her nuggets on an upturned cereal bowl, this meant she had to keep her head up whilst eating and she definitely found it easier. I really feel for you as it is horrible when they are choking. Hoping all is well.
 
@NASH I'm sorry to hear about your little girl.
I feel terrible for saying this, i've had her since she was a little pup, but i can't remember what age she is, i'm pretty sure she is 5 though when i think about it.
The raising her food up is a great idea, I've just put some wet pellets on an upturned dish to try it.
Yeah, it's horrible, I feel on edge constantly and keep jumping up at every cough. I'm sorry you & your little piggy had to deal with it too.

Also, i'm pretty sure this all started about the same time she lost her abiity to 'wheek'. (idk if this means anything to anyone. Thought i'd throw it out there just incase)
 
@Coco&Luna I was about to ask how she was doing x
Does she get the wheek back and loose it? Frank has phases of not being able to wheek. I don't really know why though? Because we always have so much to deal with things often get mixed.
 
Glad to hear she's doing ok and I hope the X-rays give some answers. I had to smile at your celebrated poop, I hope you congratulated her. I was beside myself when Bumble had barely pooped 24 hours after her spay, then the nurse at the vets told me when she came round she did more poops than thy had ever seen for a little pig which explained a lot. I'm really routing for your little one
 
How is Coco doing now? I hope that she can hang in there until you can get to the bottom of the problem.
 
@The Furry Godmother She's ok. Getting sick of my sticking syringes of medicines into her mouth, lol. still sounds really chesty & her wee ears are freezing cold all the time. :S
Her weight has stayed the same, which is aot better than a drop!
Nah, she hasnt been able to wheek in over 2 months at all. People were saying that they can lose their wheeks when they get older, but i just thought it was weird its kind of happened at the same time.
LOL, i know what you mean! so much seems to go on with them that you lose track of what happened when and start forgetting about things and you just end up permanently like :crazy: "ermahgerd, whats gewin ernnn!?"

@Lady Kelly lol, awwwww!
ahaha, i could have cried, It was a wee minging sticky smelly thing and i was holding it up like a trophy all
YEEESSSSS! c'mannnnn!
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@Wiebke She hasnt got any worse, just kind of the same, but she's not sitting hunched up in the corner with her eyes shut anymore which is a massive massive relief. :) & her weight hasn't dropped any further. I just bought new scales and it took me about 2 hours to work out how to read them, but she's still at about 660g :)
I'l tell you how she get's on tomorrow, hopefully she gives the go ahead and thinks she's well enough this time to have the xrays on tuesday. Fingers X'd!
 
That interesting what you say about the loss of the wheek. Only a couple of weeks ago I put a thread on here about my Winnie heaving and she doesn't wheek at all. It's kind of gone from a silent squeak to nothing. I have since caught her heaving and it looked like she had regurgitated something as she eat whatever it was! She's booked in at the vets tomorrow for a check over and I'll mention the teeth. My vet is very gp savvy so I'll let you know what she says. Fingers crossed for you. Keep up the good work. I really do feel for you. Xx
 
Coco&Luna said:
@The Furry Godmother She's ok. Getting sick of my sticking syringes of medicines into her mouth, lol. still sounds really chesty & her wee ears are freezing cold all the time. :S
Her weight has stayed the same, which is aot better than a drop!
Nah, she hasnt been able to wheek in over 2 months at all. People were saying that they can lose their wheeks when they get older, but i just thought it was weird its kind of happened at the same time.
LOL, i know what you mean! so much seems to go on with them that you lose track of what happened when and start forgetting about things and you just end up permanently like :crazy: "ermahgerd, whats gewin ernnn!?"

@Lady Kelly lol, awwwww!
ahaha, i could have cried, It was a wee minging sticky smelly thing and i was holding it up like a trophy all
YEEESSSSS! c'mannnnn!
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Bless her, I can imagine, glad she's maintaining weight though and still battling on! woo!
Franks always got cold ears and feet, we feel it's something to do with bad circulation due to his earlier lack of movement and low weight, maybe for her it is to do with the illness? Do you have a snuggle pad?

Ah, that's sad, Franks is just more so when he has a bad chest and throat, or sometimes just happens bless him. Interesting about the age thing though, think I have seen that mentioned before.

Exactly, then I write everything down as due to my anxiety and overemotional self, I can't attend vet visits. And things always get missed. But eventually they will look at Franks ears. They will. ha. && it's never one thing, it's loads. hard work these pigs!

Funny you should say that, I know it was a reply to someone else, but after this thread went quiet I was checking on Frank and noticed he hadn't pooped, and so I monitored him for two hours and he still hadn't pooped so was all systems go! He had a little trumpton stuck up there and he needed to get it out! So I massaged him for four hours etc. and then when he pooped I danced round the room with him like YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.
 
@The Furry Godmother Aww, i never thought it might be something to do with her low weight. Yeah, i have a snuggle pad, but they're both scared of them and edge around it like i've just dropped a bomb in their cage that could go off at the slightest movement, but i put it in anyway, lol. They're so alike, we should piggy date them................................then you can take coco, hahaha
I'm the same! i cant believe that, i always have to go....but i have to take a literal "chill pill" before i do, haha.

lol, trumpton. Oh, it's so worrying waiting for a poo. I waited for a day and a half there for one. Coco's has had digestive problems for a long long time anyway which have never been figured out, her poos have been small, tear dropped, mushy and she deffo doesn't poo as much as most pigs, but that was hellish! lol
I never even thought to massage her tummy!
 
Coco&Luna said:
@The Furry Godmother Aww, i never thought it might be something to do with her low weight. Yeah, i have a snuggle pad, but they're both scared of them and edge around it like i've just dropped a bomb in their cage that could go off at the slightest movement, but i put it in anyway, lol. They're so alike, we should piggy date them................................then you can take coco, hahaha
I'm the same! i cant believe that, i always have to go....but i have to take a literal "chill pill" before i do, haha.

lol, trumpton. Oh, it's so worrying waiting for a poo. I waited for a day and a half there for one. Coco's has had digestive problems for a long long time anyway which have never been figured out, her poos have been small, tear dropped, mushy and she deffo doesn't poo as much as most pigs, but that was hellish! lol
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That's what Frank's poo's are like! At the moment I get some alright ones, some piles of mushy poo, then some normal mushy teardrop ones. Weird!

I've heard also that once they get one bout of a bad stomach it tends to reoccur.

I don't know on the cold bit, other than what I know with Frank, like the tissue on his ears has been dying and they're very dry. So sounds like circulation with him. But it always gets forgotten at the vets, so hoping next time, it'll get resolved. Assuming her's are normal, just cold, probably from being under the weather :(

Haha, I get all the 'special' pigs lol! Frank loves his snuggle though... you don't get him off it! But it helps with his joints :)

haha, oh bless you, I don't even think a 'chill pill' would stop me... when I last went, because the guy we see is very good and quite famous... he ended up overrunning and I was sat there for 3 hours, I was getting so anxious I was nearly crying... then he looked all aggro to me... so that made me feel worse haha! ah dear. Never again!
 
I've been away all day so can;t comment on the details.

She's still here, she's stable in weight, you;re clearly doing everything for her and I'm going to say I'm cautiously optimistic.

If, having read back through the thread tomorrow, I can add anything else to help then i will do so.
But to be honest from my "albeit quick assessment" tonight - I think you;'re covering all the issues and doing it very well
Go Coco!
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The Furry Godmother said:
That's what Frank's poo's are like! At the moment I get some alright ones, some piles of mushy poo, then some normal mushy teardrop ones. Weird!

I've heard also that once they get one bout of a bad stomach it tends to reoccur.

I don't know on the cold bit, other than what I know with Frank, like the tissue on his ears has been dying and they're very dry. So sounds like circulation with him. But it always gets forgotten at the vets, so hoping next time, it'll get resolved. Assuming her's are normal, just cold, probably from being under the weather :(

Haha, I get all the 'special' pigs lol! Frank loves his snuggle though... you don't get him off it! But it helps with his joints :)

haha, oh bless you, I don't even think a 'chill pill' would stop me... when I last went, because the guy we see is very good and quite famous... he ended up overrunning and I was sat there for 3 hours, I was getting so anxious I was nearly crying... then he looked all aggro to me... so that made me feel worse haha! ah dear. Never again!
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poor babe. When you have a pig with digestive problems too, a spot clean always ends up being a full cage clean because theres always poo mushed into the fleece lol. Cokes constantly has poo mushed into her feet and she always looks so neglected when shes at the vets lol.

I'm starting to wonder if it's even possible for a piggy to live out it's life without any serious medical problems! I've yet to meet or hear about one! lol

Awww, thats such a shame! poor you. Who is your vet? IS IT NOEL FITZPATRICK?! hahaha
 
Coco&Luna said:
poor babe. When you have a pig with digestive problems too, a spot clean always ends up being a full cage clean because theres always poo mushed into the fleece lol. Cokes constantly has poo mushed into her feet and she always looks so neglected when shes at the vets lol.

I'm starting to wonder if it's even possible for a piggy to live out it's life without any serious medical problems! I've yet to meet or hear about one! lol

Awww, thats such a shame! poor you. Who is your vet? IS IT NOEL FITZPATRICK?! hahaha
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Yup, I have to do regular feet baths for him and Bert !

I do genuinely think that is impossible!

Lance Jepson... think he's been on TV, he's good though!
 
Winifred said:
That interesting what you say about the loss of the wheek. Only a couple of weeks ago I put a thread on here about my Winnie heaving and she doesn't wheek at all. It's kind of gone from a silent squeak to nothing. I have since caught her heaving and it looked like she had regurgitated something as she eat whatever it was! She's booked in at the vets tomorrow for a check over and I'll mention the teeth. My vet is very gp savvy so I'll let you know what she says. Fingers crossed for you. Keep up the good work. I really do feel for you. Xx
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Aww, i hope your piggy gets sorted. That would be good to hear what your vet thinks! I've heard they can lose their 'wheek' when they get older. Yeah, try get them to have a wee check of her teeth just incase, it can't hurt! Fingers crossed for you too! xx
 
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Coco&Luna said:
Aww, i hope your piggy gets sorted. That would be good to hear what your vet thinks! I've heard they can lose their 'wheek' when they get older. Yeah, try get them to have a wee check of her teeth just incase, it can't hurt! Fingers crossed for you too! xx
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Thanks. She's only 2 so not that old. She's never been a big squeaker but recently no matter how high I pitch my voice she doesn't react. Unless it's a case of she's given up cause willow is too loud for her to be heard. I'll let you know what the vet says
 
She got the all go for tomorrow!
If this is dental will that deffo be confirmed with an xray tomorrow?
 
That's good. Fingers crossed for you both. My vet said that winnies teeth are all fine and the heaving could be pure greed and eating too quickly as she's fine otherwise and her weight is the same as last time. I must admit I'm inclined to agree. I'm still going to keep an eye on her though. Good luck again. x
 
She got her Xray. the only thing that was found at all today was that her chest has alot of infection which the vet thinks she has had well before she aspirated. I'm really surprised...all her symptoms were so dental like to me.....the URI symptoms only started after she aspirated.
She's to stay on baytril 2x daily and metacam 2x daily for the next 10 more days and take her back.
Her chest sounds so much worse after the anesthetic and she's so fluffed up she looks like a puffer fish. :(
I don't know if i've done the wrong thing and made it all worse, i feel like crying. She's eaten some cucumber since she woke up at least.
 
Did the vet mention if there was any fluid showing on the xray? If so she will also need a diuretic.
 
She said that She checked her teeth and jaw really thoroughly and did an xray and they were all clear of any visible problems but it may well be something muscular? She just said that her "chest Xrays were really fuzzy which has indicated she has a bad infection going on in there".... I dont really understand what "chest means" ...is that her lungs? She didn't mention fluid at all i dont think. Then she said "there might be something going on in the chest, like a growth, but it's hard to see anything because of the fuzziness" :/
 
If she sounds chesty and now has an infection I would ask about diuretics as it's possible she could have fluid on her chest.

Perhaps it was Dental and that's what caused her to aspirate but as she has aspirated and sounds chesty it's possible she has since developed the infection. I only have experience of one pig who was aspirated but I know the pig went on to develop pneumonia.
 
I would have thought the fuzziness would be fluid but I am not an expert. I know on my own pigs when they have had an xray and the heart and lungs were not clear it was due to fluid, in their case due to their heart issues.
 
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