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help please! ash dying!

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I'm so sorry honey :( lots of cuddles and wheeks from me and the girls :( xxxxx
 
Could anyone tell me if Neo, his cagemate could be at risk?

When I went in to see Ash, he was lying on his side covered in wee and with pooh stuck to him. I picked him up and wrapped him in a towel. He started to try and lift his head and opened his mouth so i tried to syringe feed him. He couldnt take it, but when i tried to give him water I noticed black stuff dripping from his mouth. He was twitching and seemed to be bloated but I'm not sure. He was absolutely fine in the morning, had been going to del for cuddles.

He had escaped a week ago.. (29th march) could it have taken this long if he had been poisoned?

I am so devastated.. feel so guilty, i went out tonight for a friends birthday after spending weeks on the settee everyone told me i needed to get out. Didnt go out til half 9 cos just couldnt get the energy together. If I had been here I could have done something :(( 8.....

He was only 1, I have been saying for days that i thought one was going to die, ( i have weird feelings for stuff like that) just didnt expect it to be one of the babies
 
oh my gosh....sending BIG hugs from Kent, it sounds awful, but you did the best you could for him, it could be poisoning, but who knows for sure, piggies are v simple little things and sometimes there is nothing you can do :(

chin up duckie
 
Don't feel guilty for going out. I'm no expert but it sounds like he was more poorly than you staying in could have solved - and he spent his last moments knowing just how much you loved him.

I do think it would be worth prodding some of the wiser owls on here to see what those symptoms might indicate to make sure your other piggy is kept as safe and well as possible.

I'm sorry you've had such a horrible time - sending love from Wales x
 
I have just been reading your statu's on FB and am so sorry to hear about Ash :0 Please do not feel guilty for going out. You needed a good night out and there would have been nothing you could have done. He waited until you came home to say goodbye so he new how much you loved him.

Sending lots of huge (((hugs))) to you xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 
Sorry to hear your sad sad news. I'm also sure you couldn' thave done anything.

I hope someone on here can help. I was thinking was the stuff coming out his mouth the syringe food? Washing back out maybe?
 
Lisajazz said:
Sorry to hear your sad sad news. I'm also sure you couldn' thave done anything.

I hope someone on here can help. I was thinking was the stuff coming out his mouth the syringe food? Washing back out maybe?
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Guess you always wish you could have done something.

No, he had it anyway, its on the bedding where he was found and the towel when i picked him up. Now i look at it again it was a really dark brown.
 
What a shame, poor wee guy. I really feel for you, it is so sad when a young pet passes away.
RIP little man xx
 
I am so sorry to hear poor Ash has gone, Tori. I saw his name in RB and thought then I hoped it wasn't your Ash. :(

Sudden death with no symptoms at all tends to point to heart failure. From what you've said, Ash might have had some symptoms albeit right at the very end. My mind is wondering about poisoning, some types/'methods' of poisoning can take around a week to actually cause the death. Unfortunately, without a post-mortem, you won't know for sure, you can only speculate or attempt to figure it out. :(

Some of what you describe is normal for a dying animal. The dark brown/black stuff from his mouth, hard to say exactly what it could have been but it is normal for them to be unable to swallow anything as they are dying, so whatever he had sat in the back of his mouth (often uneaten foods and saliva) will have just dribbled out. Similarly with lying in pee/poop, they lose control of those functions as they're dying.

I'd be inclined to get Neo checked over by a savvy vet this week. Go through the dried food and hay, and their containers, make sure it's all clean and is fresh and give the cage a good clean.

Big hugs. xx
 
I'm so sorry for what you are going through. Please try to gain comfort in knowing that you were with him in the end and he knew how much you loved him and he wasn't alone. Big (((hugs))) to you. x
 
I really feel for you. I have lost Mirtle, mummy pig. She was very close to Gertie. I have took on board the advice on the boards. Gertie has lost of cuddles and hay to play with.
 
May I offer my deepest sympathies for the loss of Ash, Mstori.

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Could anyone tell me if Neo, his cagemate could be at risk?
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I would hazard a guess that Ash's death is related to a gastrointestinal complaint. There are several agents which may be the culprit. However, without a post-mortem it would be difficult to diagnosis the cause of Ash's death. As a result, Neo could be a risk, and should be seen by a veterinary surgeon.

Laura-CCC4 said:
Some of what you describe is normal for a dying animal. The dark brown/black stuff from his mouth, hard to say exactly what it could have been but it is normal for them to be unable to swallow anything as they are dying, so whatever he had sat in the back of his mouth (often uneaten foods and saliva) will have just dribbled out. Similarly with lying in pee/poop, they lose control of those functions as they're dying.
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As mentioned above, incontinence is commonly witnessed in sick or dying cavies, and the oral black substance is likely to have been a mixture of fluids and food stuck a the back of Ash's mouth. However, the twitching is commonly associated with pain - and is often seen in 'bloated' cavies -, and the 'open mouth', which is typically accompanied by an inward breathing or choking noise, occurs when a cavy (or other species, including human) is nearing death, e.g. minutes. Seeing this action is an indication that nothing can be done.

Please do not feel guilty. It really does sound as though nothing could have been done for Ash. Several causes of gastrointestinal complaints are currently fatal. If you had taken him to a vet, the likelihood is that the vet would have opted for euthanasia.
 
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