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yes she did know as it was in her notes, she thought it could help her. I do trust this vet as well as have seen her with many things over the years.
 
I cannot understand why she injected two antibiotics, one of which is ok and the other defintely not :( it doesn't make sense to me...
 
well she is still with me. I am pleased to say that she has had a couple of little bites out of some greens, though she hasn't poohed yet. Still doing the CC every 4 hours and she is going back to vets tomorrow afternoon for another injection of Baytrill.
 
Bless her...I am really rooting for her-do you have a pic of the little lady? x)

I hate to keep pressing you about this but what is the baytril for? if he thinks she has an infection, why not give you some to give her orally?
Before the sticky poos, had she eaten anything different, i.e a new type of veg or maybe a lot of cabbage, greens etc..it could be somethng as simple as that and a pro biotic would have sorted it. Does her stomach seem swollen and hard?
I think make sure to ask what exactly and how much the vet is injecting and say you do not want her to have any more of the terramycin.
Be sure to give her plenty of pro biotic but leave at least an hour before giving her any after any antibiotic.
I would offer her cucumber, pepper, celery, lettuce and lay off the greens/cabbage type veg for now.
 
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hi, she has eaten nothing different. i will make sure she doesn't have the bad injection again, The thinking behind the Baytril is incase she has an infection. I will do my best for her and have spent a fortune on vets and other things to try to pull her through it, and i will continue to do so.

I have tried many different foods with her but the only one she has nibbled at was the greens, though i do wander if this is just from the injection. Does anyone know how long the injection will last.

I am at a loss as what to do , as if she hasn't eaten properly and poohed by Saturday or possible tommorr eveing then the vet want to PTS. I don't but how long can this carry on.

Sorry, to answer you question her tummy is soft and she is always warm. the vet said she could feel no blockages but the tummy was very empty.
Every time i feed her she rests her head on my chest and each time i cry as i feel like she is saying goodbye to me:(:(:(:(

lavenderjade said:
Bless her...I am really rooting for her-do you have a pic of the little lady? x)

I hate to keep pressing you about this but what is the baytril for? if he thinks she has an infection, why not give you some to give her orally?
Before the sticky poos, had she eaten anything different, i.e a new type of veg or maybe a lot of cabbage, greens etc..it could be somethng as simple as that and a pro biotic would have sorted it. Does her stomach seem swollen and hard?
I think make sure to ask what exactly and how much the vet is injecting and say you do not want her to have any more of the terramycin.
Be sure to give her plenty of pro biotic but leave at least an hour before giving her any after any antibiotic.
I would offer her cucumber, pepper, celery, lettuce and lay off the greens/cabbage type veg for now.
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I know how you must be feeling, I was like this when Lennie was very ill-he didn't poop either but he had pnumonia not the symptoms your little one has :(

I am guessing then he is injecting the Baytril as it is kinder to the stomach to inject it rather than give orally. I suggested trying something other than greens as sometimes too much of this can cause tummy upsets as it is quite `gassy`.

You are doing your very best for her and just continue to syringe feed her critical care and hope it gets her gut moving-this is the main issue at the moment.

((((Big hug))))
 
i meant to put in my last post they didn't want to give Baytril orally incase she didn't swallow it all, at least with an injection they knew she would get it all.

Thanks for all your help
 
she is still with me, I am still giving CC every 4 hours, as i said in the post before she has had a small amount of greens(very small amount), she has also poohed but only a tiny soft amount that i wiped away from her bottom.

Basically there is no change, the vets are thinking on the lines of PTS, what do you all think.
Am i holding on to hope when there is none? Shall i try another gut stimulent and see how she goes over the weekend? Her tummy is still soft and the fact that she is still here surely means she idsfighting as hard as she can!

IS there hope or shall i let her go?
 
It's an awful decision to have to make, but only you can make it and you can judge her quality of life and whether she is in any pain.

I tend to keep fighting for as long as the piggy does, if he is eating and not in pain (as far as you can tell) but sadly if they stop eating I've never yet managed to pull one back round, I'm sorry to say.

How's her weight?

Is she peeing ok?

Given that the first vet injected stuff to bung her up, I'd be less worried by lack of poo and more concerned with getting enough food into her. Did you speak to Vedra?

Fingers crossed here

Sophie
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thanks, i am waiting to hear from Vedra. She seems in no pain. JUst not sure whether she will get through this. I am going to the vets again at 550 today so will weigh her there.

I believe she is fighting but if the first git stimulent hasn't really helped her to eat then what else is there to do!

God it's soooo hard, i just want the best for her.

I will try and post a picture of her. She is called Tulip, she is light black and has curly hair, infact she look like a duster.

When she came to me she was extremly underweight and covered in Mites. It tok a long time to get her health up. i also got a male from the same person who quite often has lose poo though these do clear up on there own in 24 hours! Makes we wander whether it is something to do with the life befroe they go to me!
 
Did the vet inject B12? This can kick-start their appetite and I've known it to work wonders.

Sometimes there is just something underlying wrong with them, sadly, and you might never know what.

Fingers crossed for her today. If she's fighting - go with it!

Sophie
x
 
I'm sorry things are so difficult at the moment. It sounds like you are doing everything you possibly can for her, and she will know and appreciate this. How much CC are you getting in her over the space of 24 hours? In some cases, if they will take it, 100ml is a better amount - but any you can get into her is a good thing.

I second the Vitamin B injection, and I agree with Sophie in that if Tulip is still fighting, keep working with her. As hard as it is to know and to 'read' it, you will know if she is ready to give up.
 
i have spoken to Vedra now and she has said the injection terramycin/alamycin will be fine for her. She has said that it could be a mouse has got in the cage and the guinea pig has picked up something from this, also the mites in her cage mates might be fungal rather than normal, she has given me a list of things to try. she was really good and has given me loads of new info:))
 
She is only really taking about 40-50 ml of the CC in 24 hours, she doesn't swallow a lot i give:(

Thankyou to everyone who asked how she is. I will update when i have been to the vets at ten to six.




CCC4 said:
I'm sorry things are so difficult at the moment. It sounds like you are doing everything you possibly can for her, and she will know and appreciate this. How much CC are you getting in her over the space of 24 hours? In some cases, if they will take it, 100ml is a better amount - but any you can get into her is a good thing.

I second the Vitamin B injection, and I agree with Sophie in that if Tulip is still fighting, keep working with her. As hard as it is to know and to 'read' it, you will know if she is ready to give up.
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the vet has given her Vitamin b12 and a gut stimulant anda painkiller.

I need to carry on with the CC and am going back Monday morning, if she is no better then sadly she will be PTS
 
I really hope she gets better, I'll have my fingers crossed for you both x
 
I'm glad you found Vedra so helpful, and that your vet gave Tulip the B12 injection. 40-50ml over 24 hours is fine, obviously more would be better but as long as she is maintaining her weight, then she is doing well on that amount.

I really, really hope she picks up soon. Thinking of you and dear Tulip. xx
 
meant to say , Vedra was amaing, not once had i ever thought a mouse could get through the bars of the hutch, it is a lavender lodge and now i look at it i know that they mouse could, also after i had looked properly i noticed the cover on it did have holes in it which look like chew marks.

So i will be getting proper wire tomorrow and covering it all!
 
I really feel for you and Tulip so much. I know all too well the feeling of such a situation and it is so exhausting and emotional, especially when you don't quite know for sure what has happened or quite what is the right thing to do. Have you got a picture of her you can share with us?

If she's not holding her weight, it is worth trying to increase the amount of food she's taking - maybe reduce the time between feeds to every 3 hours instead of every 4. What does she weigh and how much is she losing on average each day?
 
You are doing so great and it is obvious how much you care. I know how exhausting it is syringe feeding day and night, giving meds and so on but these little ones are worth fighting for so please don't give up. We are here to support you so just chat about it as much as you want.

((((Huge hugs))))

Fiona and 10 little piggies xx
 
i have tried to get more down her but she doesn't swallow it and lets it fall down her chin, when i fed her 30 mins ago she seemed different. I think she might pass tonight, her breathing sounded odd , but felt okay with my hands!

When the vet felt her tummy tonight Tulip didn't like it at all, where as yesterday she didn't mind. The vet said hopefully it will be poo starting to come through though did wander wheather it could be a blockage starting.

You're right it is so physically and emotionally draining, i am feeding her during night and have spent most of the week dealing with it all the time, i do have times when i wander if i should have just let the vet PTS, but i keep the picture of her running around the garden in the summer.

Her weight was 1 kilo on tuesday now at 780g, she weighed 600g when i got her in Ocotober. she was a year old then so very underweight.

Thankyou all.
 
She may pass tonight as Lennie was like this with his food before he passed, better for her to go at home with you than PTS though. I knew Lennie was going and just cuddled him with me in a fleece blanket until 2.30 am when he went.

All I can say i I hope she makes it but you have done your very very best for her x
 
You're doing everything you can. I know how difficult it is to deal with situations like this, all too well. Give Tulip a little cuddle from us on the forum who are rooting for her, poor little sweetheart.
 
How is little Tulip ? I have just caught up with this thread and can completley understand what you are going through. I've only just (and I mean only just .... not out of the woods yet by any stretch) gotten my Hamish to gain weight after having to feed him by syringe and almost daily vets visits since Christmas Eve. I guess so far I am lucky as Hamish is gaining weight.

I do hope things turn a corner for you.

Sorry I cannot offer any useful advice.... I always turn to the forum when I need advice although sadly I am not knowledgable enough to give it back.

Best wishes.
 
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meant to say , Vedra was amaing, not once had i ever thought a mouse could get through the bars of the hutch, it is a lavender lodge and now i look at it i know that they mouse could, also after i had looked properly i noticed the cover on it did have holes in it which look like chew marks.

So i will be getting proper wire tomorrow and covering it all!
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Mice can dislocate their bones & fit into a hole the dia of a pencil.
I have a mouse problem at the moment, daily i have mouse poop on top of my hutches, have seen one run into Maddies hutch & have found poop in Hamish's.

Vedra once told me it was wild mice that had contaminated my piggies feed & this was why Lottie was ill. She had similar symptoms to Tulip in that she had lost weight (no poop probs) but she was the 2nd piggy to become ill in a short time. This was in 2007. It was found she had pneumonia, most likely passed on by my step-daughters bunny who had had pasturella & shared the shed with them. At that time i did NOT have a mouse problem.

Concerned this time about mice, i asked my vet what effect it would have, if any (was at vets with a bunny, not piggy) & was told it wasn't great from a hygiene point of view & a bite would be more harmful but that it'd be highly unlikely as they would only be interested in their food.
My piggies are all well despite the mice :)

I do hope Tulip improves, you are in my thoughts x
 
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