Help! Why Is This Happening Again?

Sending you hugs.
Slaving for these gorgeous creatures is often full of delight but at times very frustrating and stressful. You are such a lovely caring piggy slave - you will find the right solution for you all, take your time and look after yourself, I'm sure it will come right in the end. Thank goodness for versatile C & C!
 
piggieminder said:
Sending you hugs.
Slaving for these gorgeous creatures is often full of delight but at times very frustrating and stressful. You are such a lovely caring piggy slave - you will find the right solution for you all, take your time and look after yourself, I'm sure it will come right in the end. Thank goodness for versatile C & C!
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Thank you :)

C&C has been a huge help. I do still have a 140cm cage here but it's just a pain so i never use it now. I started sorting the C&C last night and now I've just finished it. Will post some photos in a thread in the photo section :)
 
So I'm watching Eva and her girls today and noticed that Ellie appears to be in season. She is chasing Eva around the cage and constantly trying to mount her. Could this have had a negative effect on me trying to bond Ellie to Eileen and is it worth me trying again in a few days when Ellie is no longer hormonal?
 
Hi, can I have some advice again please @Wiebke

As you can see from the post above, it turns out both Eden and Ellie came into season shortly after the failed introduction. Today they seem calm again and I was sorting Eileen's new accommodation. I added 2 extra grids to her cage to give her more room but this meant it joined onto the main cage. I thought being closer to the other girls might help her feel less lonely but was going to cover the side so they couldn't get to each other and start getting grumpy but....

All was calm and the piggies seemed very happy and excited to see, sniff and kiss each other! No teeth chattering, no lunging or strutting at all.

Could the hormones from the girls season have effected the bonding. They seem so calm now, is it worth one more try? After 10 mins of sniffing and hello's through the bars, Eileen settled down for a sleep right next to the divider and the trio carried on with their own things.

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Hi! you can certainly give it another try and see how it goes now that tempers are down.
 
I have everything crossed for you, @Eileen's Mum! I really hope they can be reintroduced. If your girls can do it, then there's hope for mine too. :)
 
Eileen's Mum said:
Hi, can I have some advice again please @Wiebke

As you can see from the post above, it turns out both Eden and Ellie came into season shortly after the failed introduction. Today they seem calm again and I was sorting Eileen's new accommodation. I added 2 extra grids to her cage to give her more room but this meant it joined onto the main cage. I thought being closer to the other girls might help her feel less lonely but was going to cover the side so they couldn't get to each other and start getting grumpy but....

All was calm and the piggies seemed very happy and excited to see, sniff and kiss each other! No teeth chattering, no lunging or strutting at all.

Could the hormones from the girls season have effected the bonding. They seem so calm now, is it worth one more try? After 10 mins of sniffing and hello's through the bars, Eileen settled down for a sleep right next to the divider and the trio carried on with their own things.

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Good luck! I really feel for you, multiple cages are a pain in the bum. I do hope you manage to sort something out for your beauties!

I think Drom being in season caused real problems in my initial bond with Iggy, I've since had another go and she was much more relaxed with him but Tonks was a problem... I think we'll get there one day!

And yes, boys are horrible! As you can see from Iggy he's a real menace... Oh who am I kidding I wouldn't give up this expensive pig for the world, even after getting all up in his butt regularly :))
 
Thanks everyone.

Didn't work. They are all happy if the grid is between them but face to face and Ellie and Eileen kick off, big time.

Such a shame. I give up.
 
Sending you hugs. It is a shame but you've done as much as you can, if they don't like each other no one can do more.
 
You have my sympathy, and also solidarity. Mine managed to break in together this morning, and we had a similar reaction. :( I'm now planning on how to keep them separately on a permanent basis. I'm also giving some thought to whether a couple of neutered boars, one for each pair of girls, might be possible.
 
I feel for you - I've got my own lot of obstreperous unbondable or near unbondable single sows and some flaky bonded ones I don't know how long they'll work! It is very gutting and frustrating.

Perhaps you can look for a neutered rescue boar for company for Eileen that you can date at the rescue in order to prevent ending up with more fails at home?
 
Wiebke said:
I feel for you - I've got my own lot of obstreperous unbondable or near unbondable single sows and some flaky bonded ones I don't know how long they'll work! It is very gutting and frustrating.

Perhaps you can look for a neutered rescue boar for company for Eileen that you can date at the rescue in order to prevent ending up with more fails at home?
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I feel bad for Eileen as she seems to want to be part of the group but they just wont have her. I think I will try boar dating for her but right now I have issues with Edna. She is not eating as much as normal and her poop production has slowed right down. She is spending most of her time hidden away in her hide and this morning she didn't even come out for her veggies :( She did eat some eventually and is still eating pellets but just a much smaller amount than usual. I have her booked in with the vets Thursday (soonest I can get and am free to take her) so lets see what happens :(
 
Eileen's Mum said:
I feel bad for Eileen as she seems to want to be part of the group but they just wont have her. I think I will try boar dating for her but right now I have issues with Edna. She is not eating as much as normal and her poop production has slowed right down. She is spending most of her time hidden away in her hide and this morning she didn't even come out for her veggies :( She did eat some eventually and is still eating pellets but just a much smaller amount than usual. I have her booked in with the vets Thursday (soonest I can get and am free to take her) so lets see what happens :(
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Please step in with syringe feeding NOW - she is not eating enough and you need to keep the guts going. If she deteriorates before that, please have her seen by a local vet.
Complete Syringe Feeding Guide
 
Eileen's Mum said:
Will do. Thank you x
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I guess that the stress of the last week or two has got her and caused a problem. It can unfortunately happen. :(

If you wish, you can start a suport thread in the H/I section, which is monitored by more people with more medical knowledge than me.
 
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