Here come the hormones

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Hi guys,

My boys will have been with us for 4 weeks this Wednesday. They are settling in really well, feeding from my hand happily and less freaked on the odd time I pick them up in the cuddle pouch for their weekly weigh in and check over. They greet me with great excitement and lots of zoomies and popcorning, especially in the mornings and especially Bubble T who is a hilarious little character.

When I got them the lady at the rescue told us they were a Torton white (Mochi), about 9 weeks old and a Cream Abyssinian Cross (Bubble T), about 7 weeks. She said Bubble T would be dominant due to character and breed.

I thought I had read everything I needed to in advance but now realise a properly bonded more mature pair of boys would have been “safer” as I missed the board and bonding info.

They said, they seem to be ok so far (I know it’s early days for hormones). They have plenty of space - a 5x2 C&C cage and ramp up to a 1x2 upper floor which they both use. I have a house on both levels and also food, water and hay on both level. The houses have two entrances so no risk of being cornered.

Mostly they seem fine but I have noticed this past week or so a couple of face to face stand offs, and today some fairly loud teeth chattering and bottom waggling by Motchi. He is of course slightly older so I’m guessing his hormones are on the up. I can’t yet work out who is dominant, thankfully so far the teeth chattering is the highest level it’s got to. They steal veggies off each other, usually fairly amicably, and so far one or other always backs down when it’s getting a bit aggressive. Much of the time they seem very happy together.

One question I have is what do I do about picking up the dominant male first etc if I’m unsure which one that is? I think based on recent behaviour Motchi is acting more dominant BUT this contradicts with what the rescue told me. Also Bubble T is much braver - first to come to me for food, first into the snuggle sack when I pop it in the cage so in that respect he seems like he will end up being the boss / brave one / leader.

We love them both so much and as 1 piggy belongs (in theory) to each daughter (both mine really shhhh) I am praying they get through adolescence OK and are amongst that 90% who bond successfully.

If I see them getting angsty can I try to distract them with food etc? I know not to put my hand between them if fighting but presume if I can avoid them getting to the fighting stage that’s even better?

Is there anything else I can do to help them?

I’m so cross with myself for not reading up on sows versus boars etc beforehand & falling into the “cute baby” trap. But they are so lovely if I’m honest I would still do it again now even knowing what I do. It’s just I now have a year of anxiety until I know they are ok!

I am officially a GP addict, but don’t have room for another cage (yet)!

Amanda
 
Hi guys,

My boys will have been with us for 4 weeks this Wednesday. They are settling in really well, feeding from my hand happily and less freaked on the odd time I pick them up in the cuddle pouch for their weekly weigh in and check over. They greet me with great excitement and lots of zoomies and popcorning, especially in the mornings and especially Bubble T who is a hilarious little character.

When I got them the lady at the rescue told us they were a Torton white (Mochi), about 9 weeks old and a Cream Abyssinian Cross (Bubble T), about 7 weeks. She said Bubble T would be dominant due to character and breed.

I thought I had read everything I needed to in advance but now realise a properly bonded more mature pair of boys would have been “safer” as I missed the board and bonding info.

They said, they seem to be ok so far (I know it’s early days for hormones). They have plenty of space - a 5x2 C&C cage and ramp up to a 1x2 upper floor which they both use. I have a house on both levels and also food, water and hay on both level. The houses have two entrances so no risk of being cornered.

Mostly they seem fine but I have noticed this past week or so a couple of face to face stand offs, and today some fairly loud teeth chattering and bottom waggling by Motchi. He is of course slightly older so I’m guessing his hormones are on the up. I can’t yet work out who is dominant, thankfully so far the teeth chattering is the highest level it’s got to. They steal veggies off each other, usually fairly amicably, and so far one or other always backs down when it’s getting a bit aggressive. Much of the time they seem very happy together.

One question I have is what do I do about picking up the dominant male first etc if I’m unsure which one that is? I think based on recent behaviour Motchi is acting more dominant BUT this contradicts with what the rescue told me. Also Bubble T is much braver - first to come to me for food, first into the snuggle sack when I pop it in the cage so in that respect he seems like he will end up being the boss / brave one / leader.

We love them both so much and as 1 piggy belongs (in theory) to each daughter (both mine really shhhh) I am praying they get through adolescence OK and are amongst that 90% who bond successfully.

If I see them getting angsty can I try to distract them with food etc? I know not to put my hand between them if fighting but presume if I can avoid them getting to the fighting stage that’s even better?

Is there anything else I can do to help them?

I’m so cross with myself for not reading up on sows versus boars etc beforehand & falling into the “cute baby” trap. But they are so lovely if I’m honest I would still do it again now even knowing what I do. It’s just I now have a year of anxiety until I know they are ok!

I am officially a GP addict, but don’t have room for another cage (yet)!

Amanda

Try not to worry as it sounds like your boys are just working things out. Please don't kick yourself, sows can be just as bad
 
Don’t be cross with yourself! Sows come into season and some can behave like monsters on a regular basis so no one sex is easier than the other! I have a pair of teenage boars myself - one is 8 months old and the other is 9 months old. Other than a bit of bickering, the odd I can lift my nose higher than yours and a bit of rumblestrutting and chasing (which I am sure they do just for fun and nothing to do with dominance af all!) things haven’t been that bad (please don’t let me have just put my foot right in it!). I have never tried to distract them because it is their natural behaviour and have to go through it, I couldn’t be there to distract them each and every time. I do watch them and have a plan b in case their relationship was to turn sour and they did need to be separated but other than that, they are just left to get on with their macho business!

In terms of who is the dominant, then don’t listen to what you were told, go by your own judgement. Chances are they were too young at the point the rescue had them for a clear dominant to be apparent. Also, a change in dominant piggy is not unusual.

All sounds to be normal though, so don’t worry!

Oh, and my piggies were for my children as well....(who am I kidding! Even the hubby didn’t fall for it when I told them they were for our girls!). I keep thinking I might accidentally on purpose get another pair of boars in the spring - whether I dare go through with it, I don’t know - hubby didn’t know when I got my boys and he may be even more cross if I bring home even more piggies without telling him for the second time)
 
The Ever Beautiful Betsy was a complete nightmare when she was in season nipping everyone, chin offs and humping like there's no tomorrow. She even humped Velvet who is boss piggy:yikes::yikes: (be afraid, be very afraid and cue music from Shower Scene of Pyscho). So sows are just as bad. Thankfully she has calmed down a bit now she is older. I have a video but it is def X rated so I daren't put it on a family friendly forum. @Merab's Slave has seen it and agrees that it is not for the forum!
 
Don’t panic - when either Priscilla or Jemimah have a strong season the whole house knows about it.
I still haven’t worked out which one is dominant since Merab passed away.
Enjoy your boys
 
Thanks all. That does make me feel better & i have reassured my girls too. My 10 year old is so funny telling them “now, now, it’s nicest if we all just get along boys” every time the ruing starts. Lol.

I’m so entirely infatuated by them, and waste far too many hours sitting talking to them and watching their funny little behaviours.

If I had a spare bedroom there would definitely be more cages on order already!

It’s so reassuring having you all here.

Thank you x
 
Don’t be cross with yourself! Sows come into season and some can behave like monsters on a regular basis so no one sex is easier than the other! I have a pair of teenage boars myself - one is 8 months old and the other is 9 months old. Other than a bit of bickering, the odd I can lift my nose higher than yours and a bit of rumblestrutting and chasing (which I am sure they do just for fun and nothing to do with dominance af all!) things haven’t been that bad (please don’t let me have just put my foot right in it!). I have never tried to distract them because it is their natural behaviour and have to go through it, I couldn’t be there to distract them each and every time. I do watch them and have a plan b in case their relationship was to turn sour and they did need to be separated but other than that, they are just left to get on with their macho business!

In terms of who is the dominant, then don’t listen to what you were told, go by your own judgement. Chances are they were too young at the point the rescue had them for a clear dominant to be apparent. Also, a change in dominant piggy is not unusual.

All sounds to be normal though, so don’t worry!

Oh, and my piggies were for my children as well....(who am I kidding! Even the hubby didn’t fall for it when I told them they were for our girls!). I keep thinking I might accidentally on purpose get another pair of boars in the spring - whether I dare go through with it, I don’t know - hubby didn’t know when I got my boys and he may be even more cross if I bring home even more piggies without telling him for the second time)

Oh oh..... I do know of a gorgeous pair of boys who need a home. I so wanted them and keep wondering if they are still at the rescue......
 
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