How did piggy die

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Hey guys my beautiful guinea pig oreo unfortunately passed away yesterday, It was expected as I knew he was extremely sick but I still just don’t know why it happened and I want to see if anyone has any sort of theories or ideas of what was wrong with him as it hurts me so much not knowing and is driving me insane.

So it all started on the 23rd of March where he didn’t eat all of his food which is really unlike him, he always ate all of it really fast so it was worrying seeing some left over so we got him into the next day. They checked him up and said he seemed fine but gave us some medication for his gut just in case he hadn’t been eating enough hay but yeah the vet didn’t think much of it. Then as the days went on it continued he would leave some of his food and not eat his hay which was confusing cause we thought it was all fixed but like he was still eating enough to not like extremely worry.

Then on the 27th of March until the 3rd of March I was on holiday, however my mum was still taking care of him she is usually the one that does and she said he was still eating bits of food but just wouldn’t eat it all and it kept getting worse so she started syringe feeding him. Then on the 31st of March she took him to the vets and they said it could be his teeth so they needed to do a x ray on them. So the next day he went back for that x ray and they found that his back teeth were slightly out of line so they filed them down and prescribed painkillers but that still didn’t change. After that he ate less and less and was less vocal we thought he was just recovering from his operation but it obviously was something else wrong with him.

When I got back from holiday it was honestly like seeing a different piggy he had lost so much weight while I was gone and he wasn’t vocal anymore it was heartbreaking. I saw him eat like little bits of veg and the tiniest bits of hay and bits of pellets but he really was struggling so much. He would sometimes tilt his head to the side as he tried to eat like something was hurting him. He would still be active and run about and chew things and obviously eat little bits but it was limited and his pellets he would only eat certain ones and he would struggle so much like all the chewing was so slow and he was so weak. And the only time I proper saw him eating hay like he used to he coughed about 6 times in a row after it like a really really horrible cough. And instead of squeaking when cuddling me he would make like wheezing sounds so I booked another vet appointment .

Then on the 7th of April we took him back to the vets and they gave him a check up and said he seems to be fine and nothing is wrong so tried to refer us to another vet for a full body scan but it was too far away we don’t have a car or anything and we couldn’t take a piggy that weak to where it was we felt like it could have killed Him travelling that far so I started researching for other vets and found the rabbit and cat clinic which is thankfully not far from me so we decided if he still doenst improve in the next couple of days we will get him an appointment there.

Then it just kept getting worse he would only take one bite of each bit of veg and only eat a few pellets and he wouldn’t move about much and it just looked like he was so weak and his eyes were always closing constantly and he was just so frail. The syringe food was the only thing keeping him going my mum was giving him as much as she possibly could make him take without hurting him.
The last time he ever wanted to run about was on the 9th April after that he would just make a grrr noise when u tried to put him down to roam and he just completely lost his energy.

On April 10th he gave me and my mum a really bad scare cause all of a sudden he started refusing to swallow the syringe food he would just keep it all on his mouth. We spent hours trying to get him to fight and try and chew and eventually he did and he didn’t refuse it again. However the day after that he seemed to really decline. He would sit in his cage all hunched up and puffed out constantly and just stare into space it broke my heart. He was so so tired and it was so hard to syringe feed him because of the low energy he had we was doing all we could to keep him going my mum was waking up every 2 hours to feed this poor boy. He also wasn’t pooping anymore at all.

On the 12th his breathing started to change. He would breathe so heavily and was eating absolutely nothing on his own anymore just the syringe food it really started to give me no hope. Everytime I cuddled him the breathing would slow back to normal but then when he’s back in his cage it would continue again. He also felt a lot more stiff. Luckily our appointment for cat and rabbit clinic was the next day so we took him to see Kim she saw the breathing and said it could possibly be secondary puenomia. Then she filed his teeth again as they was overgrown again from not eating and she noticed he had mouth thrush so prescribed him with medication for that and then some more painkillers . She said his chewing was really slow and he was really weak but she still had hope he could get better. After we got home from the vets that day he actully ate a bit of veg for the first time in ages and he was smiling again it made me so happy.

Then the next day his breathing got so much worse it was so fast and really noisy I could just sense that it was his last day and I was right. Me and my mum sat with him for 12 hours trying to comfort him he was fighting so hard to stay alive. He couldn’t swallow the syringe food anymore Or water he couldn’t do anything it was so so scary and sad it was his time to go but we tried our best. We comforted him until the very end and he was so relaxed on us the hunched posture and the fluffed up fur was gone he was just relaxed fully stretched out and cuddiling us right until his last breathe. Me and my mum switched between holding him from 5:00pm when I got home from college all the way until 5:05am when he took his last breathe which was so painful to hear and watch.

The vet said there is nothing else we could have done we tried our best but it just hurts me so much to not know what was wrong with him. I don’t know what originally caused him not too eat cause it wasn’t his stomach or his teeth it was something else and we don’t know. I'm so lost and I wish I could have done more to help him he means the absolute world to me I miss him so much I hope someone has an idea of what caused him to not eat and to actully get that mouth thrush and just get weak and decline so badly.

He was such a fighter It took him hours to go through the death process he just couldn’t let go he really did try. Even with mouth thrush he still tried to eat he did his best I’m so proud of him I wish he didn’t have to go he was only 3 turning 4 this July :(
 
I’m so sorry for your loss

It could have been his teeth causing him issues which stopped him from eating, or he could have been feeling unwell with something else which caused him to stop eating enough and then his teeth got overgrown and it just went on from there.
It would be impossible for us to know what actually went wrong first.
Unfortunately though once something does go wrong, they can get weak very quickly, the body can struggle to fight (in some illnesses it happens within hours) and then other issues can come in (the thrush) once the immune system is compromised. If they stop pooping then the gut has slowed down. When they stop wanting to swallow food at all, the body is shutting down there is not anything that can be done from that point.

It is normal to try to find reason but you did everything you could for him.
Try to look back on all the good times you had with him

Again, I’m sorry for your loss

Human Bereavement: Grieving, Processing and Support Links for Guinea Pig Owners and Their Children
 
I'm so sorry for your loss. It's so hard and it sounds like you fought so hard to give Oreo a chance to recover, and he sounds like he was a fighter too. It's impossible to know for sure what happened- there could have been something wrong internally, there could have been something wrong with his teeth and jaw that was more than just the teeth being overgrown. Guinea pigs often aren't good at handling pain/discomfort and will basically shut down if chewing is painful for them. And of course once they aren't eating that leads to other problems with their organs and body systems pretty quickly, since they are build to be constantly grazing. Even though there's no way to know for certain, please know it was nothing you did. You and your mom put so much effort, if he had been able to get well you gave him every chance. Sometimes there are just issues we can't fix. I've also lost pigs younger than I expected, including to dental issues, so I know very well how much it hurts. Giant ((HUGS)) to you.
 
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I am very sorry for your loss. What has happened is not yours or your mum's fault. You have really done all you could for Oreo so please try not to feel guilty; either of you.

It could have been the teeth and incorrect dental treatment/regrowth with knock-on effects or it could have been something else metabolic or deep in his body that went wrong. It is impossible for us to say. There may have been a pain issue somewhere but there was no clear signal for it but the loss of appetite.

Mystery weight loss/loss of appetite is my least favourite symptom because so many different and out there issues can hide behind that without any real clues. Veterinary medicine has made great advances in terms of guinea pigs in the last 10 years but there are still real limits, especially for general vets where guinea pigs don't really feature on their curriculum but even experienced vets come quickly to their limits when there are no clear symptoms. When the chips are down, guinea pigs are small prey animals with a much faster metabolism and they can downhill very quickly once what is wrong is taking over at much faster speed than in larger pets. :(

It is always much more difficult to make sense of a loss when nobody knows why it has happened and the usual guilt loop at the start of the grieving process tends to be stronger. This is our human trap - we are wired to reflect everything back onto ourselves as a shortcoming when in fact it is an expression of how deeply we care and love; we would have those strong feelings of being the cause of the death if we didn't love because they are the two sides of the same coin.

Please be as sad as you need to but try not to blame yourself or your vet for what has happened over the Easter holidays. What really counts are the many days in your good, loving care and the happy life you have given Oreo. Guinea pigs don't have a concept for the extent of veterinary care and its limits or an average lifetime; they measure a good life by happy todays.
As long as you have given them those, you have not failed your pets because they are in your control. What can never choose is when, what from and under what circumstances the end comes but as long as you make the time while you have them a good one, you have given them what they want out of life.

You have clearly done that for Oreo. He was and is much loved and he will always have a nest in your heart.

PS: I am moving this thread to our new End of Life and Bereavement section where we provide community support for owners and all the emotional and practical issues that come up during the grieving process and with looking after bereaved companions. We recommend that you bookmark this thread so you can pick it up easily again so we can keep each case together and can provide personalised support for as long as needed. Talking is the best thing you can do but so can physical ways to epress your strong feelings, especially after a rather traumatising passing like Oreo's.

If you struggle with your issues to the degree that you cannot sleep for more than a few days or struggle to function in daily life, please contact the free Blue Cross pet bereavement platforms (UK only). Pet Loss Support

For more information on what unexpected snags can come with the complex grieving process and things you can do for yourself you may find our Grieving Guide link here very helpful: Human Bereavement: Grieving, Processing and Support Links for Guinea Pig Owners and Their Children

Here is what you can do for any mate of Oreo's: Looking After a Bereaved Guinea Pig

My thoughts are with you and your mum.
 
Hiya, I've lost a couple of pigs to mystery illnesses. It hurts. We have theories but so many ailments are connected, and their gut freezes for all sorts of reasons - that's when the big problems worsen.

As long as you did everything you could - and it sounds like you did - then we have to try and move on. Knowing now won't change anything as you did do everything you could.

It's awful and I am particularly scarred by a pig dying in my hands in Feb 2024. I think the mystery is part of having guinea pigs sadly. There are extra high highs and extra low lows.
 
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