I've Tried To Bond My Two Male Piggies But

[Fotini Rizou]

I followed all the steps. My older piggie was trying to smell the butt of the young piggie and he was following it, then the young piggie was smelling the other piggie and following it, but after a while the old ohe got biten by the young ohe in the face(no injuries) but my older ohe didn't respond, and he didn't attack him back.

 

[Wiebke]

I followed all the steps. My older piggie was trying to smell the butt of the young piggie and he was following it, then the young piggie was smelling the other piggie and following it, but after a while the old ohe got biten by the young ohe in the face(no injuries) but my older ohe didn't respond, and he didn't attack him back.

Was there blood or was it just a carefully judged nip, which is not a bite but just a gesture to tell a piggy to keep their distance? It is clearly not a fight and not seen as a fight by both boars.

 

[Fotini Rizou]

Was there blood or was it just a carefully judged nip, which is not a bite but just a gesture to tell a piggy to keep their distance? It is clearly not a fight and not seen as a fight by both boars.

Just a nip(no blood or something) the young ohe seems that he don't want the other ohe to smell him all the time. The baby did that to him 2-3 times but he didn't respond to him he was just keep smelling the baby. Also it feels like the baby don't like the big ohe

 

[Wiebke]

Just a nip(no blood or something) the young ohe seems that he don't want the other ohe to smell him all the time. The baby did that to him 2-3 times but he didn't respond to him he was just keep smelling the baby. Also it feels like the baby don't like the big ohe

Give the two boys time! It is all VERY much on the mild side so far. Your little one can obviously stand up for himself. Smelling bums is totally normal; it is like reading a status report on health, age and physical fitness. It is also normal that the older ones doesn't necessarily heed what the obvious underpiggy wants.

Please read the getting to know and bonding behaviours in the guide.

 

[Fotini Rizou]

Give the two boys time! It is all VERY much on the mild side so far. Your little one can obviously stand up for himself. Smelling bums is totally normal; it is like reading a status report on health, age and physical fitness. It is also normal that the older ones doesn't necessarily heed what the obvious underpiggy wants.

Please read the getting to know and bonding behaviours in the guide.

I guess I have to give to the baby piggy some time to get used to his new environment first . At least my older piggy Ratisilaos(greek name) enjoys the company of the other piggy, because he became more active from the moment I brought the baby home, he is eating much more hay, also he is popcorning a lot, and running more when it's floor time

 

[Wiebke]

I guess I have to give to the baby piggy some time to get used to his new environment first . At least my older piggy Ratisilaos(greek name) enjoys the company of the other piggy, because he became more active from the moment I brought the baby home, he is eating much more hay, also he is popcorning a lot, and running more when it's floor time

They are both behaving perfectly normal for the start of the bonding process. I would be glad to see that - it won't go much nicer.

 

[Wiebke]

Look, nipping is about on the same strength as we humans pushing somebody with an elbow. Nipping means that a guinea is just pushing another one off or letting it feel the teeth without biting. It is just a VERY mild warning and it is something that piggies living together do very regularly.

You are seeing behaviours that I would be extremely happy to see during the getting-to-know/acceptance phase. The little one has only registered a mild protest to show that he will not be quite a push-over. If he is REALLY not happy, he can outrun and outjump your larger boy anytime!
You have to be aware that things will get A LOT more physical once piggies move into the dominance phase. Bonding is not just a nice little hand shake, going down on your knee and asking the other 'will you marry me?'

Please DO NOT INTERVENE unless they are bloody bites and both boars are a fighting ball of fur.

 

[Wiebke]

PS: Make sure that the little one has got a 'panic room' with two exits on opposite sides only he can get into, whether that is a small cardboard tube or a small cardboard box with a little soft hay and two small openings. Youngsters are so much more agile and faster than bigger piggies; unless they get cornered, they usually don't come to any harm. Your little boy is also not yet experiencing any testosterone spikes. He is just a feisty baby and Ratisiloas is treating him like that.

 

[Fotini Rizou]

PS: Make sure that the little one has got a 'panic room' with two exits on opposite sides only he can get into, whether that is a small cardboard tube or a small cardboard box with a little soft hay and two small openings. Youngsters are so much more agile and faster than bigger piggies; unless they get cornered, they usually don't come to any harm. Your little boy is also not yet experiencing any testosterone spikes. He is just a feisty baby and Ratisiloas is treating him like that.

Thanks for the good advises! This whole thing gives me anxiety. I am also a little bit concerned because the baby is not really quiet, (like I was expecting, Ratisilaos was really scared the first 3 weeks) he is only 3 days here, and he is squeaking for food, playing a lot, not hiding, and trying to go to the Ratisilaos cage when he is eating it looks like he is going to be aggqressive when he will grow up. I was feeding half of a small carrot the baby as a treat yesterday , and I didn't noticed that carrot was about to end, so he ate my finger.

 

[Merab]

He sounds a real character

 

[Wiebke]

Thanks for the good advises! This whole thing gives me anxiety. I am also a little bit concerned because the baby is not really quiet, (like I was expecting, Ratisilaos was really scared the first 3 weeks) he is only 3 days here, and he is squeaking for food, playing a lot, not hiding, and trying to go to the Ratisilaos cage when he is eating it looks like he is going to be aggqressive when he will grow up. I was feeding half of a small carrot the baby as a treat yesterday , and I didn't noticed that carrot was about to end, so he ate my finger.

Feel blessed that you have a well adjusted NORMAL lively baby in your home - this is how a youngster should be!
They are very vocal (it's quiet only when they are sleeping), interested in anything, discovering the world by tasting it (after all, guinea pigs don't have a vomit reflex), wanting to be with a friend...

Leave your two boys to sort it out between them and DO NOT step in! Your baby is not aggressive at all; he obviously comes from a loving and caring place that is looking well after their guinea pigs. He is going to teach Ratisilaos a lot about having fun and enjoying life!

 

[Fotini Rizou]

Feel blessed that you have a well adjusted NORMAL lively baby in your home - this is how a youngster should be!
They are very vocal (it's quiet only when they are sleeping), interested in anything, discovering the world by tasting it (after all, guinea pigs don't have a vomit reflex), wanting to be with a friend...

Leave your two boys to sort it out between them and DO NOT step in! Your baby is not aggressive at all; he obviously comes from a loving and caring place that is looking well after their guinea pigs. He is going to teach Ratisilaos a lot about having fun and enjoying life!

I hope everything is going to be fine between them in the future. Yes, I adopted the baby from people who have experiences with guinea pigs, and they're having guinea pigs more than 20 years. They also have 3 guinea pigs, who are going to be 10yr old in a few days, so I guess they're treating them well, not like my Ratisilaos that I adopted him from a hamster cage with a wheel that was smaller than him They communicate with me a lot to ask if the baby is okay

 

[Wiebke]

I hope everything is going to be fine between them in the future. Yes, I adopted the baby from people who have experiences with guinea pigs, and they're having guinea pigs more than 20 years. They also have 3 guinea pigs, who are going to be 10yr old in a few days, so I guess they're treating them well, not like my Ratisilaos that I adopted him from a hamster cage with a wheel that was smaller than him They communicate with me a lot to ask if the baby is okay

Since you are struggling so badly with bonding behaviours, would it be possible to ask them whether they would bond your two boars for you? They will have the experience and seem to be genuinely caring people, so they are the safest place where you are to do so without twisting yourself in knots? All you can do is ask. It would certainly make things a lot easier for you!