Lap time advice.

Skullblits

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Hello

I was just wondering about lap time advice I can't really seem to find much about it or unsure if it would apply to me.

I've had my girls for just over 2 months now.

But there still kind of skittish. But not as much.
I've got one who is on antibiotics atm and she would take coriander out of my hand (which makes me feel like a good slave)

Should I attempt to give them lap time if they still skittish?

What would be a suitable hidey for them to do it in?

How long should lap time last for?

I'm not sure and don't wanna stress my piggys out.

I know P@H sell a hidey thing but it isn't that well covered.

Anyway thanks for any help
 
Your best bet, as they are so skittish, is to use a snuggle sack (or an old fleece hat if you haven't got a snuggle sack) and limit the lap to about a minute or two first of all then slowly extend the time over a number of days and weeks. Have some fave food around too so that they associate lap time as something nice.
 
Start lap time for a short amount of time at first and build up. We started off we laptimes for 1 minute with new piggies then pop them back, slowly increasing the time. They will soon associate you with food and good things but at first it takes a while to gain their trust.

You can also use a cosy at first this will help them feel more secure, we have had success with this in the past
 
All of my piggies hate being down on my lap with me looming over them! I tend to hold them on my chest so we are at face level, or I sit the piggies on a blanket on the sofa then I sit on the floor to stroke them and hand feed them. Or sit them on a cuddle couch on my lap and lean right back so I'm not looming over them.
 
You'll see after awhile what yours like or don't like. Some REALLY like having their chins rubbed, though you'll have to work up to it until they understand what it is. Some like noses rubbed, cheeks rubbed, etc.. If they seem to stay still and allow it, work it in to get them used to it.

As far as skittish goes, once they are familiar with you and the surroundings, you can pull out the hiding places for awhile (They'll hide if they have them and will remain skittish) and you can always reintroduce them later, move them around, etc.. They'll eventually get used to seeing you walk by and won't react, though just keep walking and say nothing.

IF they are running away and you say something, or you are trying to talk to them while chasing one around the cage, that can make it worse. They can and will associate words with experiences, so avoid saying anything when they are stressed. I used to walk in and say "GUINEA PIGS" and due to poor timing, it'd actually cause everyone to run and hide.

I personally suggest using a word for veggie treats. Like others, I'll say "TREAT" and they learned right away what that was and would stand up and lean on the cage wall. I more recently started walking to the opposite side of the cage (about 7' long) and then say treat, and they'll come running. Once you have a word for a veggie treat, it can be used at times (preemptively) to prevent their running. Like say you enter the room, everyone scatters, you instead have a piece of lettuce or a carrot chunk, etc. and say "TREAT" as you are getting reading to the enter room. You can pump them up a bit by saying it a few more times, especially once they start wheeking.


Eventually, they'll get used to you and everything else.
 
I disagree with what @Little Piglets says about taking out hideys and not talking to your piggies as you walk past. Piggies need to have places to hide so they feel safe this is especially important when they are new and skittish and it actually helps them to settle. Also if you talk to them as you approach they get to know your voice and that you're not a threat cos a predator never makes a noise. Put yourself where they are. They have been taken away from their family, put somewhere big and scary, just as they were getting used to that they have been taken somewhere else scary with different smells and huge giants(you). No wonder the poor things are frightened. To them you may eat them it's up to you to teach them that you won't. There is an excellent Piggy Whispering guide on the guides at the top of the page (can't link in on this device). You feel like a bit of an idiot doing some of them but they work. Just make sure nobody's around! It's not silly if you are a guinea pig.
 
I always very slowly open their shed door and say ‘piggies’. They are aware that I am there even before I start to open the door as their hearing is so good but I’d still do it very slowly. When I first got them they’d hide but they very quickly learnt that that means attention and food. When I now I open the door and say piggies, they start talking back to me and come running to the downstairs of their hutch ready for food and a chat!
 
Phoebe was very shy and nervous when I first got her so I used a snuggle pouch for lap time.
None of mine like being picked up and food is essential for a piggy on a lap
 

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I disagree with what @Little Piglets says about taking out hideys and not talking to your piggies as you walk past. Piggies need to have places to hide so they feel safe this is especially important when they are new and skittish and it actually helps them to settle. Also if you talk to them as you approach they get to know your voice and that you're not a threat cos a predator never makes a noise. Put yourself where they are. They have been taken away from their family, put somewhere big and scary, just as they were getting used to that they have been taken somewhere else scary with different smells and huge giants(you). No wonder the poor things are frightened. To them you may eat them it's up to you to teach them that you won't. There is an excellent Piggy Whispering guide on the guides at the top of the page (can't link in on this device). You feel like a bit of an idiot doing some of them but they work. Just make sure nobody's around! It's not silly if you are a guinea pig.


You can't do it right off the bat, and I'm not talking about weeks on end, and it's probably better suited to small herds vs. a singular gp or a couple boars, etc.. Once they are familiar with the surroundings, you CAN remove hiding spots for a bit, put them back after awhile, alternate them out with other boxes, move them to different ends of the cage, etc.. It won't kill them or cause them to have a heart attack, so long as they aren't chattering their teeth at you or something. It's more helpful for gp that hide no matter what, even after being familiar with you. GP that are tame and at least indoor gp, shouldn't really run and hide when you enter if they are familiar with you and are friendly. Ideally, they'll just go about what they were doing as if you never entered the room. So if they are eating hay and you walk in, they shouldn't insta-hide, they just continue eating. Pulling hiding spots out, moving them around, etc. teaches them to be less fearful of you, or at least it works with mine. For the record, they still HAVE cubbies to sleep/hide in, but they get alternated out and moved a lot. Hiding when I enter is rare.

As far as "sounds" go, it has ZERO to do with predators. It's the opposite of doing something like saying "treat" and getting a veggie reward. It's akin to saying "I'm coming to grab you, everyone run and hide while you still can". They WILL associate your words with whatever is happening to them. I'm not talking about calm gp eating hay, you walk in sit next to the cage, then start talking about your day at work. I'm referring to bad timing with words. You see people do it with dogs all the time, and the dog just does whatever it wants due to poor word-timing during training i.e. "no" means ignore you OR worse, it means "you are getting a beating" so it instantly urinates when it hears "no".

About the ONLY thing that routinely "triggers" my sow herd, regardless, is the back of my computer chair faces their cage, so they can't technically see me even though I'm about 5 feet away some of the time. ANYTIME I raise my hand above the seat back like to stretch, especially at night with only my 55" monitor's lighting on, they get insta-spooked, as my hand appearing out of essentially no where, WOULD be akin to a large bird predator that hunts at night. They then all scatter to wherever. Even then, that's a more natural response vs. hiding because you walk into the room even though they hear you coming, then saying "guinea pigs", which they've learned in the past meant you were trying to pick them up when they were still skittish.

You can use "treats!" as an ice breaker once they associate the word with something positive as a way to keep them from hiding when entering a room, so long as you reward them for it. They'll come running, right? After awhile, you ween them off of it, by saying nothing when entering the room. They'll go about their business. IF you enter the room and say "HI PIGGIES" while they are running and hiding, guess what "Hi Piggies" means to them?

And just to drive the matter further of word timing, my self-black boar Scottie can purr on command and will wheek if I ever say "Want to go see her" despite it only ever having been used to socialize through the bars with Susie my sow, months ago. He still remembers what that means.
 
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