Lost of girl of 5 years suddenly

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Hi all,
On Sunday we woke up to one of our 5 year old girl Pip had had a prolapse. We took her to an emergency vet who said there was a very large lump and he suspected that that was the issue but unfortunately it wasn't looking good. Rather than risk an operation and infection which he said was likely from the state of the prolapse and putting her through a painful op as an older girl we decided to do the kind thing and euthenise. The night before she was her usual happy wheeking self and full of life. It all happened so quickly from finding her at 6:30am to euthanasia at 9:30am and we are feeling so much more pain than we ever imagined. She leaves behind her sister. We've had them together ever since we got them as babies. Our other guinea pig unfortunately had tooth issues in January and they were filed and we had to syringe feed her, she unfortunately lost a lot of weight and is eating again but frail so we'd expected her to go first so it has just been such a shock. Unfortunately her sister is now seeming very depressed. We've moved her cage into the living room with us again so she has a lot more company from us now that her sister isn't here. She isn't eating much at all. When we brought Pip back from the vets we placed her in the cage so she could say her goodbyes. She didn't really react but did eventually go over and lick her nose then carried on as usual and was eating. She didn't seem bothered but now she seems very depressed and we are wondering what we can do to help?
Thank you
 
Hi all,
On Sunday we woke up to one of our 5 year old girl Pip had had a prolapse. We took her to an emergency vet who said there was a very large lump and he suspected that that was the issue but unfortunately it wasn't looking good. Rather than risk an operation and infection which he said was likely from the state of the prolapse and putting her through a painful op as an older girl we decided to do the kind thing and euthenise. The night before she was her usual happy wheeking self and full of life. It all happened so quickly from finding her at 6:30am to euthanasia at 9:30am and we are feeling so much more pain than we ever imagined. She leaves behind her sister. We've had them together ever since we got them as babies. Our other guinea pig unfortunately had tooth issues in January and they were filed and we had to syringe feed her, she unfortunately lost a lot of weight and is eating again but frail so we'd expected her to go first so it has just been such a shock. Unfortunately her sister is now seeming very depressed. We've moved her cage into the living room with us again so she has a lot more company from us now that her sister isn't here. She isn't eating much at all. When we brought Pip back from the vets we placed her in the cage so she could say her goodbyes. She didn't really react but did eventually go over and lick her nose then carried on as usual and was eating. She didn't seem bothered but now she seems very depressed and we are wondering what we can do to help?
Thank you

BIG HUGS

I am so sorry for your sudden and traumatic loss but you have made absolutely the right decision and spared her any further suffering. Prolapses in guinea pigs are usually difficult to deal with since the prolapsed tissue swells quickly and may not stay put, on top of the infection risk and any underlying issues that could them. They are thankfully not all that common, but that is no consolation to you.

What has happened is not your fault, nothing you could have prevented and you have had her seen as soon as possible, so you have done all the right things. It is just one of those totally random short straws in the cosmic lottery of bad luck. Please be kind with yourself as you deal with both the shock and the loss. It is OK to not be OK for a little while after a traumatic experience like yours.
Human Bereavement: Grieving, Processing and Support Links for Guinea Pig Owners and Their Children

Guinea pigs, like humans, have very different personalities and react very differently to a loss. You have the less demonstrative ones that nevertheless feel very deeply, like Pip's sister who has obviously realised before you that Pip was very seriously ill and had already taken her leave from Pip before you took her to the vet, you have the ones that just focus entirely on getting on with survival and there are the ones that fall to pieces... just like humans.

Please don't clean the cage and allow Pip's scent to naturally fade as her sister is grieving. Being withdrawn is the most common reaction. As long as the sister is eating and drinking, she will be OK for a little while (typical 1-4 weeks) to allow you to get over the worst of your loss and to give you time to consider and explore your options. The big issue is whether you want to continue with piggies or not.
Here are more practical tips and helpful advice for the immediate aftermath through to the longer term: Looking After a Bereaved Guinea Pig

This guide also looks at the specific challenges with bereaved singles and contains a chapter about how to spot when a piggy is transferring their own social species needs onto you - not always in ways you'd expect.
Single Guinea Pigs - Challenges and Responsibilities
 
I’m so sorry for your loss. What a terrible shock for you. Sending you hugs ❤️

Popcorn high over the bridge Pip.
 
BIG HUGS

I am so sorry for your sudden and traumatic loss but you have made absolutely the right decision and spared her any further suffering. Prolapses in guinea pigs are usually difficult to deal with since the prolapsed tissue swells quickly and may not stay put, on top of the infection risk and any underlying issues that could them. They are thankfully not all that common, but that is no consolation to you.

What has happened is not your fault, nothing you could have prevented and you have had her seen as soon as possible, so you have done all the right things. It is just one of those totally random short straws in the cosmic lottery of bad luck. Please be kind with yourself as you deal with both the shock and the loss. It is OK to not be OK for a little while after a traumatic experience like yours.
Human Bereavement: Grieving, Processing and Support Links for Guinea Pig Owners and Their Children

Guinea pigs, like humans, have very different personalities and react very differently to a loss. You have the less demonstrative ones that nevertheless feel very deeply, like Pip's sister who has obviously realised before you that Pip was very seriously ill and had already taken her leave from Pip before you took her to the vet, you have the ones that just focus entirely on getting on with survival and there are the ones that fall to pieces... just like humans.

Please don't clean the cage and allow Pip's scent to naturally fade as her sister is grieving. Being withdrawn is the most common reaction. As long as the sister is eating and drinking, she will be OK for a little while (typical 1-4 weeks) to allow you to get over the worst of your loss and to give you time to consider and explore your options. The big issue is whether you want to continue with piggies or not.
Here are more practical tips and helpful advice for the immediate aftermath through to the longer term: Looking After a Bereaved Guinea Pig

This guide also looks at the specific challenges with bereaved singles and contains a chapter about how to spot when a piggy is transferring their own social species needs onto you - not always in ways you'd expect.
Single Guinea Pigs - Challenges and Responsibilities
Thank you for your response. Winnie her sister is very withdrawn, not eating much and not really coming out. This happened Sunday morning and because of the prolapse there was blood so once we were home my husband took out the old bedding and put new bedding down 😢 we didn't realise about leaving the bedding as we thought due to the blood etc it wasnt nice to leave so wanted to make it clean for winnie. We still have the towel that the vet wrapped her dead body in which has a little blood on. Would this bring her comfort if this was placed in now or would it cause distress? When we brought Pip home we placed the towel and Pip in the cage for her to say goodbye so she has smelt the towel before with Pip on it. We took Pip to a lovely pet cremation place on Sunday afternoon the day she died, she was cremated the next day on Monday and we picked her up yesterday. We took her there still wrapped in the towel in her carry case that we took her to the vets in so the carry case and towel has been at the crematorium place. Would these two things still smell of Pip and help her?
Thank you
 
Thank you for your response. Winnie her sister is very withdrawn, not eating much and not really coming out. This happened Sunday morning and because of the prolapse there was blood so once we were home my husband took out the old bedding and put new bedding down 😢 we didn't realise about leaving the bedding as we thought due to the blood etc it wasnt nice to leave so wanted to make it clean for winnie. We still have the towel that the vet wrapped her dead body in which has a little blood on. Would this bring her comfort if this was placed in now or would it cause distress? When we brought Pip home we placed the towel and Pip in the cage for her to say goodbye so she has smelt the towel before with Pip on it. We took Pip to a lovely pet cremation place on Sunday afternoon the day she died, she was cremated the next day on Monday and we picked her up yesterday. We took her there still wrapped in the towel in her carry case that we took her to the vets in so the carry case and towel has been at the crematorium place. Would these two things still smell of Pip and help her?
Thank you

Hi

No, I would not reintroduce the smell of Pip again.

Please switch to weighing daily at the same time in the morning for best day to day monitoring as to whether she is eating enough and if necessary top her up with syringe feed.

Leave little treats where she has do come out but not too far away.

See how she reacts to you playing guinea pig videos, whether the sound of other piggies could bring her out a bit.
 
Hi

No, I would not reintroduce the smell of Pip again.

Please switch to weighing daily at the same time in the morning for best day to day monitoring as to whether she is eating enough and if necessary top her up with syringe feed.

Leave little treats where she has do come out but not too far away.

See how she reacts to you playing guinea pig videos, whether the sound of other piggies could bring her out a bit.
Ok, since her tooth issues in January she drinks so much water and because of this her poo is very soft. She isn't eating enough hay anymore. The Vet said she was in the decline. Very sad situation I don't think Winnie is going to do very well without Pip. Pip always got her to come out as she was noisy and would get excited at vegetable times.
Very sad
 
Ok, since her tooth issues in January she drinks so much water and because of this her poo is very soft. She isn't eating enough hay anymore. The Vet said she was in the decline. Very sad situation I don't think Winnie is going to do very well without Pip. Pip always got her to come out as she was noisy and would get excited at vegetable times.
Very sad

I am very sorry. Could you see whether hearing piggy voices from online videos or videos of your own could lure Winnie out?
 
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