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Low Energy And Not Eating Harder Foods

Dom R

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Hi All,

Over the last few days my neighbouring boar has suddenly lost around 1/11th of his weight (He's dropped from 1.1kg to around 980 grams, which for him is definitely un-normal and is quite worrying, as any major weight loss can always lead to a lot more than expected.

His regular diet is having constant hay, both on the floor of his cage, and in a tray on the outside of his cage, he has access to his pellets constantly, but he ate what I would say is the healthy amount per day (I give them full access to them as they're quite fussy eaters, and eat things when they want, not when I would like them to, which is normal). But I feed my three boars Pepper daily, along with cucumber and a small amount of kale. But Rodney has stopped eating everything other than soft foods, like the Cucumber, he rarely eats his hay and has actually not drank anything for a few days either, he normally guzzles it down. I've given him extra cucumber for this reason, and he's eaten it all.

But since Monday, which is the day I normally clean all of my guineapigs' cages, he's lost all that weight, he felt a little light on Monday, but it wasn't anything worrying to me. Whereas yesterday, I weighed him as he seemed to have got even lighter than he was the previous day. I'm currently going to watch his weight, and since yesterday he hasn't lost anymore, thankfully.

Along the lines with his poops, they have shrunk in size, probably to around 1/2-1/3 of the size he used to do.

He's also been sleeping a lot, which makes it much easier for me to measure his fresh poops, as he poops and pees where he sleeps, so I have blankets with water absorbents in the middle, custom made for him, as he'd normally just lay in it if not.

Personally, I think he may have something wrong with his back teeth, as I cannot check or see them, his front teeth are pretty normal. And I'm unsure on where to go from here, if he doesn't improve or he loses any weight, I'll be dropping him into the vets as soon as possible.

Age wise, He's approximately 2.5 years of age, I adopted him in may and the charity I adopted him off said around 2 years of age (although I personally think he's younger, as there was a picture of him being much smaller at the beginning of 2016, so he's possibly around 2 years of age now).

I really appreciate any help I could get, and I am willing to give any information that is needed.

Edit: His eyes seem to have gone quite crusty too, worse than usual, normally it was quite soft and easily wiped away, but it was essentially glued to the corner of his eye.
 
I'm sorry he is poorly. He really needs to see a vet so they can work out what is wrong. Where abouts in the UK are you? we may be able to recommend a vet. If you suspect dental issues and are within travelling distance of Northampton there is a great vet at the Cat and Rabbit clinic in Duston called Simon Maddock. If his eyes are crusty this would possibly indicate an upper respiratory infection which would need antibiotics.
 
I'm sorry he is poorly. He really needs to see a vet so they can work out what is wrong. Where abouts in the UK are you? we may be able to recommend a vet. If you suspect dental issues and are within travelling distance of Northampton there is a great vet at the Cat and Rabbit clinic in Duston called Simon Maddock. If his eyes are crusty this would possibly indicate an upper respiratory infection which would need antibiotics.

I'm in South Yorkshire, Probably 20-30 minutes away from Sheffield.

His eyes, aren't too bad I don't think, but I can get some pictures of the different things I mentioned if it would help.

I normally take my guineapigs, and took Fudge, who passed away in March to the nearest Pets4Vets, and the staff there seem to know what they're doing, and are really friendly and helpful while they're at it. But if someone more specialised is nearby, then I would prefer to take him to them, even if it's a little bit more expensive.

Would you like me to get a picture of his eye(s)? Just to make sure that it is actually crusty and not just me being me.

I really thank you for your reply
 
Apologies for the double post, I took a picture of each eye, they aren't as bad as they were earlier but there's still a bit around his eyes. Sorry if the pictures are too large, it's just easier to see the larger it is. I also checked his weight and he's not lost any more, but he's not gained any either. Which is both good and bad.

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His eyes look like he hasn' t been cleaning himself properly or it could be a tear duct problem possibly secondary to dental issues.
I am in Sheffield and highly recommend alfreton park veterinary hospital in Alfreton Derbyshire. It's about 40 mins drive from Sheffield. See Ellie Whitehead or Claire Bush
 
His eyes look like he hasn' t been cleaning himself properly or it could be a tear duct problem possibly secondary to dental issues.
I am in Sheffield and highly recommend alfreton park veterinary hospital in Alfreton Derbyshire. It's about 40 mins drive from Sheffield. See Ellie Whitehead or Claire Bush

I think he might have some underlying permanent issues due to an illness he had when he was young, I believe he had an ear infection, so has a permanent head tilt, and I don't think his sight is too great. But it might have just flared up. What are the other symptoms of overgrown back teeth? I know a few but I just want to check everything. I should've added that I've already done a quick health check, and only really noticed his eyes, and he also had a bit of what I think was saliva in his fur at the edges of his mouth (and dribbled down around 1cm in two areas), but his chin was mostly dry.

I looked up Alfreton Park, and it's around 50 minutes away from me, which isn't too bad as I can drive. I read the two staff members you listed, and they definitely seem like good shots. How would I go around making an appointment with them, does it matter if Rodney is not registered?

And also, although it isn't an issue, what are the prices like? Are they similar prices to most veterinary practices? It's just so I know what to expect.
 
Tried to edit this in, so apologies for the double post again. But I tried to say that I did a quick health check yesterday, looking for lumps and areas that aren't normal for him. And the only thing I noticed were his eyes being worse than normal and that he had some saliva (I believe it is anyway) dribbling down the sides of his mouth, but his chin was mostly dry. This was before he had any of his cucumber or anything, too.

I also tried to add that he only seems to be eating around half of said soft foods, we gave all my pigs a cherry tomato each earlier, as a rare treat. He normally scoffs it down and it's gone really quickly. But he ate it much slower, and progressed to a stop when there was around 1/3 left, and just refused from there.
 
Just gave my pigs their daily snacks of Pepper and Cucumber, and Rodney's refused all of it, which is definitely out of character. Going to get him to the vets tomorrow if I can during my dinner break at College, if not I'll have to get my parents to drop him off or something, he's definitely feeling under the weather at the moment, poor little guy.
 
hi @Dom R,Alfreton Park are reasonably priced.there expertise is very good.i would maybe start syringe feeding critical care or mashed up pellets if he has lost 100grams in weight.syringe water to keep him hydrated,Good luck at the vets.
 
hi @Dom R,Alfreton Park are reasonably priced.there expertise is very good.i would maybe start syringe feeding critical care or mashed up pellets if he has lost 100grams in weight.syringe water to keep him hydrated,Good luck at the vets.

I'd love to give him some critical care, but I don't have any in. I just gave him a little bit of natural fruit juice with no added sugar diluted in some water. More or less for a little boost, and something better than plain old water.
I'm going to get up earlier tomorrow purely for the fact to make sure he hasn't deteriorated too far, and I will be sure to attempt to syringe feed him some pellets.
I will update on what the vets say tomorrow, as I really dislike how he's not himself at the moment.
 
So, an update.

It turns out that Rodney's teeth are perfectly okay, there's plenty of food back there which the vet said was normal.

Although I didn't go to the specialist one, I went to the one I normally go to, but they're really friendly and helpful.

Rodney had an x-ray, and it uncovered a lump in his abdomen, which confirmed what the Vet said she felt. This, after Fudge's passing really made me panic, and it doesn't help when they said they're unsure on what it is, but it's really small at the moment, and I have been given some recovery food for him (Which I am quite unsure about, and would need some extra advice for it if possible).

Below is what I was given (The shaded out areas are private info). I understand the hydration pouches at the bottom, as the instructions are on there. But the two foods above, they're labelled the same, but she gave me completely different information for both when mixing. I'm also not sure on when/how often to feed Rodney this. Any help would be appreciated. For note, the one on the right has the information, and the one on the left, I was given the instruction of mixing it one-to-one with water. I'm also wondering whether or not to split them up into set days, so it'll last till Monday. I'm guessing I feed him one set of food over the period of one day, and keep going until Monday.

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I think he might have some underlying permanent issues due to an illness he had when he was young, I believe he had an ear infection, so has a permanent head tilt, and I don't think his sight is too great. But it might have just flared up. What are the other symptoms of overgrown back teeth? I know a few but I just want to check everything. I should've added that I've already done a quick health check, and only really noticed his eyes, and he also had a bit of what I think was saliva in his fur at the edges of his mouth (and dribbled down around 1cm in two areas), but his chin was mostly dry.

I looked up Alfreton Park, and it's around 50 minutes away from me, which isn't too bad as I can drive. I read the two staff members you listed, and they definitely seem like good shots. How would I go around making an appointment with them, does it matter if Rodney is not registered?

And also, although it isn't an issue, what are the prices like? Are they similar prices to most veterinary practices? It's just so I know what to expect.
Sorry for late reply. Glad that you have seen a good vet
They are both recovery feeds so just follow the vets advice. Phone the vet nurse for advice if you are unsure.
The bio lapis are probiotics and help improve gut function.
 
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Sorry for late reply. Glad that you have seen a good vet
They are both recovery feeds so just follow the vets advice. Phone the vet nurse for advice if you are unsure.
The bio lapis are probiotics and help improve gut function.

Don't worry about the slow reply :)
I've gone out and got a couple more sachets of the Supreme Science food, as he voluntarily eats that, which I thought would be better, as he didn't do that with the white powdered one (No clue what it is, I asked someone and they said it was labelled incorrectly).

I'm not sure how to administer the Bio lapis, as he's not drinking by himself, so I'm currently syringing it, using a 1ml syringe slowly every so often, normally before and after I give him some food. And in between too.
 
Don't worry about the slow reply :)
I've gone out and got a couple more sachets of the Supreme Science food, as he voluntarily eats that, which I thought would be better, as he didn't do that with the white powdered one (No clue what it is, I asked someone and they said it was labelled incorrectly).

I'm not sure how to administer the Bio lapis, as he's not drinking by himself, so I'm currently syringing it, using a 1ml syringe slowly every so often, normally before and after I give him some food. And in between too.
You can just mix it into his syringe feed if that's easier.
 
Just posting a little update in case any of you were wondering.

I decided to take Rodney to a different Veterinary Clinic (The one @pig in the city) recommended. I did this because I wasn't satisfied on what they did to 'help' Rodney at my other vet, as they basically just said to keep feeding him, and he continued to lose weight. And I must say, I really wish I went to this veterinary clinic first, before I got talked out of it due to the distance. I got much better answers, and actually have, I guess you could say a few medications for Rodney.

It turns out he has two Abscesses, one, which is the one in his abdomen, they confirmed it was filled with liquid, which the vet I saw explained was one of the better abscesses for him to have (Although none would be even better), and my original thoughts were also true, in some form anyway. It turns out he's started, or already has an abscess in his mouth, in his left cheek, which when the vet was feeling it, was causing him pain and discomfort, whereas the other one was not.

She gave me two different types of Antibiotics for him, some anti-inflammatory and pain killer, and also some Gut stimulant. And she seemed really confident that it will help him, although the possibility of surgery is still there. I am definitely happy with the care I got today, and she didn't charge me for the scan he was given either, which I really appreciated; along with your help.

I gained some of my confidence in Rodney getting better back now, which is an even bigger benefit, although I cannot be fully confident, as it can still take a really negative turn, but I'm not thinking of that currently.
 
Just posting a little update in case any of you were wondering.

I decided to take Rodney to a different Veterinary Clinic (The one @pig in the city) recommended. I did this because I wasn't satisfied on what they did to 'help' Rodney at my other vet, as they basically just said to keep feeding him, and he continued to lose weight. And I must say, I really wish I went to this veterinary clinic first, before I got talked out of it due to the distance. I got much better answers, and actually have, I guess you could say a few medications for Rodney.

It turns out he has two Abscesses, one, which is the one in his abdomen, they confirmed it was filled with liquid, which the vet I saw explained was one of the better abscesses for him to have (Although none would be even better), and my original thoughts were also true, in some form anyway. It turns out he's started, or already has an abscess in his mouth, in his left cheek, which when the vet was feeling it, was causing him pain and discomfort, whereas the other one was not.

She gave me two different types of Antibiotics for him, some anti-inflammatory and pain killer, and also some Gut stimulant. And she seemed really confident that it will help him, although the possibility of surgery is still there. I am definitely happy with the care I got today, and she didn't charge me for the scan he was given either, which I really appreciated; along with your help.

I gained some of my confidence in Rodney getting better back now, which is an even bigger benefit, although I cannot be fully confident, as it can still take a really negative turn, but I'm not thinking of that currently.
At least you know what's going on. Well done for getting a second opinion. They are a fantastic practice and if anyone can make Rodney better they can . What a great piggy carer you are @Dom R !
 
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