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Lump On Shoulder !

rhymer

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Please can someone help me. I have 2 piggies Fred and George they are 6 yrs. Yesterday while cleaning them out I noticed George had a large lump on his shoulder blade. I feel physically sick and unable to sleep. I can't stop crying.
I took him to the vet this morning, They clipped his hair and gave him some local and tried to lance it. Nothing came out only blood.
They think the lump is attached to the bone. They gave me antibiotics to see if it makes any difference.
They have said they can xray and possible surgical removal if they is no spread.
I am so worried about him do I risk the anaesthetic knowing he might not make it and lose what time I have left with him? or should I keep him pain free and see how it goes.
At the moment he is so full of life.
I don't think I can bear the pain of losing my baby.
 
Hello, welcome to the forum.

So sorry you are faced with this choice, there is no right or wrong answer to this one. We have had piggies with lumps removed and in other cases opted for palliative care and let our girl live out the rest of her life pain free until the time came to let her go. Each case is completely different and I understand how upset you are. Many of us here have all been through similar choices and they are never easy.

First off, see how the AB's do and take a little time to process the decision

Is your vet experienced with Guinea Pigs?

Some vets possibly in your area
  • Hoylake Veterinary Surgery
    Maria & Rob
    43 Birkenhead Road
    Meols
    Wirral, Merseyside CH47 5AF
    0151 632 5676
    www.hoylakevets.com/


  • Rose Cottage Veterinary Centre
    Jen Quayle
    Chester Rd
    Sutton Weaver, Runcorn
    Chershire West and Chester, WA7 3EQ
    01928 71758


  • Birch Heath Veterinary Clinic
    Suzetta Cameron or Vicki Baldrey
    Birch Heath Road
    Tarporley, Cheshire CW6 9UU
    01829 733 777
    www.bircheathexoticvets.com
What i would ask your vet is how experienced they are with this kind of surgery?
What the risk is with the GA and your boys age?
What are the options if you dont remove? What pain relief would they provide etc...?

Have a hug and love to George
 
It's OK I personally have never heard of a piggy dying under under anaesthetic. If they do I think it's unusual. I think I would go ahead with an op if it's recommended. Don't worry it sounds as the vet has control. Now no more thinking he's gonna to die, just give him lots of cuddles
Hi & Welcome to our friendly forum.
 
My Streaky had 2 large lumps, one under his stomach and one on his leg. The one on his stomach got very big and sore. I chose to operate, even thought the vet said it is could get risky for small animals. Even though it was very expensive, he’s much better now *touchwood*. It happened in summer 2017, at the age of 3 and a half so he was fairly young.
I do recommend you have the operation for him as there’s a high percentage that he’ll be okay under anaesthetic. But all depends on the situation as well as your thoughts and the vets advice too.
 
Thank you. I went to Broadway Vets in Wallasey.
I think they were concerned about his age, because he's 6 years. They said if he was 1 or 2 years they would certainly recommend surgery provided the xray showed no spread
 
Thank you. I went to Broadway Vets in Wallasey.
I think they were concerned about his age, because he's 6 years. They said if he was 1 or 2 years they would certainly recommend surgery provided the xray showed no spread
There is always a small risk with an xray that obviously get larger as piggies get older like in humans.
 
It is always a toss up with older piggies. Like @sport_billy has said, there is no right or wrong which way you decide on when you weigh up the various pros/cons and the risks. Each case has their own merits and as long as the decision is made with your piggy's welfare upmost in mind (and not your own fears and desires), then it is the right decision.

I have had an infected cyst sat right next to her genitalia successfully removed from a 6 year old last year (she's just celebrated her 7th birthday this month and is still going strong), but I have also opted against an operation with younger piggies depending on the nature of the tumour, the recovery chances and the comfort/longevity aspect - which depends very much on what you are exactly dealing with.
I have had an older piggy live for another 15 months with a tumour (initially we thought it was a large ovarian cyst) that my vet recommended not to operate, but I have also lost one of mine within 3 weeks after the diagnosis as his deep sitting abdominal tumour had already spread to the guts and an operation was impossible.

Whichever way I decide to go, it usually helps me to see every extra day as a bonus from now on and to see an operation with an over 50% chance of success as a way of buying more time.
 
Thanks so much for your help. I want to spend all the time I can with George and for Fred to have his brother, but I don't want George to be in any pain or distress
just so that I feel better. I just wish he could tell me what he wants?
I've had to make the decision to let piggies go before and although it broke my heart, it was the right thing to do for them. If George was in pain and the op would make him better, there would be no choice. But at the moment he is his usually self, making the decision hard.
 
Thanks so much for your help. I want to spend all the time I can with George and for Fred to have his brother, but I don't want George to be in any pain or distress
just so that I feel better. I just wish he could tell me what he wants?
I've had to make the decision to let piggies go before and although it broke my heart, it was the right thing to do for them. If George was in pain and the op would make him better, there would be no choice. But at the moment he is his usually self, making the decision hard.

HUGS

These borderline situations when you haven't got much to go on are always the hardest to deal with in my own experience. if there are no obvious pointers, follow your gut instinct; this is generally what you can live with best in the long term.
 
Oh crikey. What a dilemma for you. As the others have said, there is no right or wrong answer in cases like these. You are clearly a devoted owne. You know your piggies best. Just make whatever decision you are happy with. For me, I have had lumps removed and I have lumps left alone. It all depended upon the advice of the vets and my own views. As Wiebke says, the best decision is one that you can live with. Hugs x
 
George has been back to the vet today and there does not appear to be any change in the lump. Vet recommends monitoring it closely for now. If it starts to change in anyway to reassess the situation and maybe opt for surgery. Also they said we could try some anti imflamatory meds.
 
Up date on George.
He is still happy and eating. His lump has only grown very slightly and doesn't seam to bother him.
At the moment I am fighting a weight loss problem with his brother Fred.
He lost weight about 12 months ago from 1100g to 950g. Took him to the vet but they couldn't find anything wrong. Since then his weight has been around 950g until this last week and he stated losing again. Still eating and running around as normal. He does sleep more but he has done for about 18 months as he has got older. He has extra feeds in the morning which he loves. Any advice would be good. xx
 
Glad to hear that George is holding his own.
Are you weighing Fred daily to see how great the weight loss is?
You may want to take him to the vet again for another check.
It may just be age - 6 is good for a piggy.
Keep us posted
 
Thank you. I am weighing Fred daily, I think I will see about a check up, I think it is his age but no harm in checking. He is quiet lively and still very nibbley ( including fingers). xx
 
I have a beautiful girl who is nearly 6 and I worry about the slightest change in her so I understand how you feel about Fred
 
Update on George.
Just got back from the vets with George. Took him in for a check up as he was holding his right back leg strangely. Up until now he had been doing ok. The lump on his shoulder had not really grown any bigger, but he had lost a bit of weight.Vet checked him over and found another mass in his side fairly deep seated and large, also probably pressing on the nerve in his leg or back. He doesn't appear to have any pain in his leg, he just can't feel it properly.
He is eating and drinking fine,and potters around his cage. She has given him some metacam to take and told me to keep him comfortable. She is happy to carry on as long as he has quality of life.
I'm completely heartbroken and in bits.
Just living on borrowed time,as they think it will be sooner rather than later.
 
Update on George.
Just got back from the vets with George. Took him in for a check up as he was holding his right back leg strangely. Up until now he had been doing ok. The lump on his shoulder had not really grown any bigger, but he had lost a bit of weight.Vet checked him over and found another mass in his side fairly deep seated and large, also probably pressing on the nerve in his leg or back. He doesn't appear to have any pain in his leg, he just can't feel it properly.
He is eating and drinking fine,and potters around his cage. She has given him some metacam to take and told me to keep him comfortable. She is happy to carry on as long as he has quality of life.
I'm completely heartbroken and in bits.
Just living on borrowed time,as they think it will be sooner rather than later.

HUGS!

It is the kind of diagnosis none of us ever likes to hear. :(

However, once you have had your cry, please concentrate on making the best of the time you have left and cherish every minute. We always only have our pets on loan to give them as happy and good a life in the time they have been given with us. Living beings, whether that is humans or pets, don't come with a minimal life span guarantee. :(
What pets and we ourselves die from and when is usually out of our control (the same goes for the humans you love).

I have learned that it helps me best to reset the time to zero when I get a notice that time is running out, so I can cherish every extra day I have been given with a beloved one and make the best of it.

The one gift - and it is a huge gift - that you have got with a terminally ill pet or person is that you have got time to do and say everything you want and need to say and do and not be left with unanswered questions and feelings of guilt. You also have been given the gift of making their passing as easy and kind on them as you can can.

Your grieving process doesn't start with the death itself; it starts when you realise that death is on its way - for you, that is right now! The shock of an imminent loss is always one of the real lows every bit as bad as the loss itself. But unlike when you lose a beloved one unexpectedly, you have this period between the shock and the actual loss in which you can make a difference and you can deal with the two separately and not be swamped by the shock and the loss all at once, which I personally find harder to deal with.

Love transcends time, and you can an astonishing amount of it in an amazingly short period. That is an experience I have learned in the three long years my dad was battling his terminal cancer. Death nearly always comes too soon, and it is frightening, especially when you have never experienced it before. But knowing that it is coming gives you a lot more control and choice over the time you have still left with your beloved one. There is still time for laughter, plenty of cuddles, lots of spoiling and special moments. ;)

If it helps you, start a diary to write about your feelings but also about your precious memories, new and old ones, so you will always have something very tangible - and a lot of George that is staying with you in your heart that cannot be taken away from you.
 
I am very sorry about the mass. But I agree with everything that Wiebke has said above.
I’ve had piggies with terminal illnesses and it’s awful. But you start to grieve for them whilst they are still alive so it isn’t so hard when they pass. With my terminally ill piggies, I spent everyday they were still here cherishing them, taking lots of photos and making lots of memories. I also ditched their strict diets and let them enjoy their favourite foods.
I am sending you and George lots of (((hugs))) xx
 
I really can't add to what has been said already but I am so very sorry you have to face this diagnosis.
Make lots of memories and be gentle with yourself as you are already grieving
 
Thank you so much for your kind words, it helps to feel supported.
Without this forum I would be lost. Xx
 
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