Male and female guinea pig introduction

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Hi, please advise me..!
We have had our male piggy neutered and have started introducing him to our girl over the last few evenings on the bathroom floor! Lots of piles of food and places to hide but I’m worried it’s not going well. There’s lots of teeth chattering and attempted mounts and yesterday a lump of fur was pulled out of young man. I’ve read so many different sets of advice but what I’d like to know is should I when should I intervene, so many posts say leave them to it unless there’s blood and also if anyone has any top tips. They’ve been in adjacent cages for weeks and we have swapped bedding. TIA :)
 
Once you introduce, dont keep splitting them up again, it causes stress for them and u keep having to start the bonding process over and over again.

Have you waited 6 weeks post neuter for the boars sperm to die?
 
You need to decide when you are going to do the bonding and just go for it. Don't keep splitting them up and putting them back together again.
 
Hi, please advise me..!
We have had our male piggy neutered and have started introducing him to our girl over the last few evenings on the bathroom floor! Lots of piles of food and places to hide but I’m worried it’s not going well. There’s lots of teeth chattering and attempted mounts and yesterday a lump of fur was pulled out of young man. I’ve read so many different sets of advice but what I’d like to know is should I when should I intervene, so many posts say leave them to it unless there’s blood and also if anyone has any top tips. They’ve been in adjacent cages for weeks and we have swapped bedding. TIA :)

Hi and welcome

It is only boar-boar intros that you cannot separate until they have either bonded or the bonding is heading clearly in the wrong direction and will not come off.

However, in your case, it does not look like acceptance or a leadership sort-out has been established or is likely to be established once a sow is starting to pull fur (the equivalent of an intentional serious boar bite, only without the blood).
That is in my own experience usually a sign that she has made up her mind that she doesn't want another piggy to be part of her group. :(
And once a sow has made up her mind about who's in and who's out, she is not likely to change it anytime soon this side of life. My Tegan is making it clear to Gethin everytime she passes his cage that he is the last boar in the world she would consider living with - three years after she dumped him summarily! I have a good-sized cupboard full of t-shirts from failed neutered boar/sow bonding... :mal:

Unfortunately, what many people are not aware of is that the one big hurdle - and it is a big hurdle - of cross gender bonding is that acceptance right at the beginning is by no means guaranteed. Bondings with sows don't usually get into fisticuffs and bites; but that doesn't mean that every bonding comes off.
Mutual liking is key, and that is not something that you can predict. There is a magic wand trick that can personality outlook and make piggies like each other, as little as you can make feuding kindergarten kids become best friends by telling them so. Adult and especially older sows are often a lot less inclined to accept a neutered boar than young sows at ideal pup bearing age.
In fact, unlike what most people thing, sow bonding is a lot trickier and less likely to succeed than boar bonding. Boars are generally rather upfront; you will know fairly quickly whether a bonding is heading in the right direction or not. Whereas with sows a bonding can fail at any stage of the process and some can be rather subtle about it. Ask any experienced rescue bonder!

Please take the time to read our very comprehensive bonding guide, which looks at both interaction and a range of possible dynamics, discusses the specialities of various bondings and lists clearly the behaviours to look out for at each stage of the bonding process that tell you that the stage has failed. Neutered / De-sexed Boars And Neutering Operations: Myths And Facts

Here are our tips on what to do when piggies have fallen out or won't get together (the last chapter also goes for failed bondings).
Bonds In Trouble

I am very sorry. I know exactly how gutting and frustrating a failed bonding is when you have gone to great lengths to make your piggy happy!

PS: I assume that your boy is safely six weeks past his neutering operation?
 
Ok, i was told different when i bonded boar sow. Thats interesting. I might be thinking of play dates
 
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Thanks for the advice ! I will be gutted if we can’t make this work as we have put this poor lad through his op for nothing then! Yes, we have left it 6 weeks so no risk of piglets!
 
Thanks for the advice ! I will be gutted if we can’t make this work as we have put this poor lad through his op for nothing then! Yes, we have left it 6 weeks so no risk of piglets!
I hope it works out for them. When i bonded my boar and sow i was very worried. Because i would have had to rehome my boar if it didnt work. Luckily it worked, but they are not very close atall , they just enjoy that another pig is there.
 
Thanks for the advice ! I will be gutted if we can’t make this work as we have put this poor lad through his op for nothing then! Yes, we have left it 6 weeks so no risk of piglets!

Keep them in a divided pen for the time being while you consider your further options, which are generally limited to your space options and your rescue access, which can both vary widely.

We can help you a lot better is you please added your country, state/province or UK county to location in your account details (via clicking on your username on the top bar) to make it appear with every post you make. This allows us to tailor any advice straight away to what is relevant and available where you are instead of keeping thing as general as possible. We have members and enquiries from all over the world and are switching between them constantly. It is a great help for us to help you most effectly straight away.
 
We can keep them separate but close enough to keep each other company if necessary, it’s just hard work cleaning out 3 indoor cages and maintaining 3 outdoor runs! We have another sow who is a very grumpy old lady and won’t tolerate any other piggies. We don’t half pick them!
 
We can keep them separate but close enough to keep each other company if necessary, it’s just hard work cleaning out 3 indoor cages and maintaining 3 outdoor runs! We have another sow who is a very grumpy old lady and won’t tolerate any other piggies. We don’t half pick them!

Poor you! Piggies can be every bit as tricky to match up as humans... if you ask me! I have a roomful of them. Do you have the space to keep your boy between your two biddies for ongoing stimulation and interaction?
 
Just an update for those kind enough to offer your advice- after several unsuccessful attempts and feeling quite glum we came home a few weeks ago to find our boar had wriggled his way into our young lady’s pen and they were sitting together quite happily! We’ve not separated them since and they are perfect piggie friends! 😁
 
Just an update for those kind enough to offer your advice- after several unsuccessful attempts and feeling quite glum we came home a few weeks ago to find our boar had wriggled his way into our young lady’s pen and they were sitting together quite happily! We’ve not separated them since and they are perfect piggie friends! 😁

Good that your piggies have taken matter into their own paws and worked through the whole thing on their own while your girl was likely in season and therefore more accepting. Dominance and the attending drama can really throw first time bonders. Sitting by and NOT intervening is the hardest bit.
 
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