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Medication That Vet Has Prescribed

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hi

Just after some reassurance. I took koko to the vets this morning to get her cough checked. They have given us antibiotics and steroids but it's for dogs as there is none for small animals. I had to sign a disclaimer. Does that sound right? It's called Meta something.

Poor girls weighs 400g and the vet says she has a growth on her throats which could be an abscess but could be something else.

Thanks in advance
 
If you're talking about Metacam then yes, it's OK to give to piggies, even though it's licensed for cats and dogs. I'm assuming you've been given the Dog strength product at 1.5mg/ml? Metacam is a non-steroid anti-inflamatory medication.
 
Yes that's sounds right they said to give 1kg which is a bigger syringe and with food I asked what's that's converted ml for the smaller syringe and they said a droplet! So just going to do that on the end of a red pepper and hope she takes it!
 
Steroids shouldn't be used in guinea pigs. This thread highlights why: The Problems With Steroids And Why They Shouldn't Be Used.

Have you been given Metacam? It is an anti-inflammatory and pain killer and is very safe, when correctly dosed. If it was Metacam, what is the strength (amount of active ingredient per whatever, the bottle should specify) and what is the doseage?

I don't know why you had to sign a disclaimer. I assume it is for steroids, which can be fatal in guinea pigs. The only disclaimer I've needed to sign for, was Buprenorphine, which is a controlled drug.

How old is your guinea pig? 400g is very light for adult guinea pigs, so some weight gain (unless she is very young) is in order.

I would recommend finding a new vets, as a prescription of steroids could be lethal. There is a vet locator on the forum which are all recommended vets.
 
It's metacam 1.5mg on the package but they gave me a kg syringe and said give 10 and baytril 0.25ml. She is only a baby 9.5 weeks.

I think it's because it's not licensed for small pets? That's what she said. It's a vetinary hospital and I say out of hours vet. Who told me to book in for Saturday with the specialised vet in small animals.
 
The dosing is not very clear!i would ring your vet to clarify the correct dose in mls.Usually it is 0.1 to 0.25 mls,but your piggie is small in weight and you need to give to correct amount .also if it is dog/or cat metacam.i believe you need to be very careful about giving steroids with non steriod anti inflammatory drugs.pre biotic is good to give with Baytril ,a pinch 1 1/2 hours after giving the antibiotic.it can be tough on piggies guts.I'm no expert and i would advise ringing your vet.I hope a health an illness advisor can help you with what to ask the vet @Wiebke
 
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Metacam has been prescribed to my piggies in the past. My understanding is that its an anti-inflammatory and painkiller. I guess they use 1 for dogs because nobody has done a specific 1 for guinea pigs yet.

I'm a bit surprised that they haven't given you the correct syringe! Even for out of hours service, that's pretty poor. Can you still measure out the exact dose correctly though? Koko needs to get the correct amount she was prescribed for her treatment to be effective.

Poor little love, i hope all goes well when she sees the specialist about the lump as well. Sending big hugs! It's an awful & worrying time when your piggie isn't well and i wish her a speedy recovery :hug:
 
I think it was the syringe in the box that's why I questioned getting 1kg in it so the reception gave me two smaller 1ml syringes and the vet said it equates to one droplet. Which Is what I gave her on the end of a piece of pepper then I gave her a two more pieces and a piece of cucumber. Is that ok?
I also had to give her 0.24 baytril.
 
The dosing is not very clear!i would ring your vet to clarify the correct dose in mls.Usually it is 0.1 to 0.25 mls,but your piggie is small in weight and you need to give to correct amount .also if it is dog/or cat metacam.i believe you need to be very careful about giving steroids with non steriod anti inflammatory drugs.pre biotic is good to give with Baytril ,a pinch 1 1/2 hours after giving the antibiotic.it can be tough on piggies guts.I'm no expert and i would advise ringing your vet.I hope a health an illness advisor can help you with what to ask the vet @Wiebke


Hi what is pro biotic? Thanks
 
it helps to re colonise good bacteria,antibiotics kill good and bad bacteria.pro c from pets at home,fibreplex ,aviro plus are examples of pre biotics and can get these on line e.g vet uk,from your vet,or pro c from PAH.If you search on forum threads you will find some excellent advise on this.I'm sorry my computer skills are naff and i do not know how to support you with a link.:)
 
Oh great thank you. I know what they are in adults but couldn't imagine giving her a yakult or something lol. I will nip into pets at home on the way back from work tomorrow. Many thanks
 
No problem, it's good to always have some in your piggy medical box along with critical care. When I first joined the forum and read about a medical box I thought - no way will I need something like that; oh how wrong was I! Now it's an absolute must. I'd recommend keeping syringes, critical care, probiotic, shampoo, well the list goes on.
 
It looks like you have been given Metacam for dogs, there is also a cat variety they are just different strengths of the same active ingredient. sometimes referred to as Loxicom.
its a painkiller & anti inflammatory. this is a normal medication & i have used it many times over the years for my girls & had no bad side effects (except the guinea trying to steal the syringe as they love it so much!)

it's easier to dose with a 1ml syringe, but the metacam for dogs often gets supplied with a Kg increment dose printed on it, however heavy the dog is - thats the dose that is given, its just easier for people to understand & work out for dosages with dogs.
however the kg dosage method for guineas is a bit confusing & not as accurate. hence vets usually give dosages in ml.

the baytril is an antibiotic & will help to kill off any infection. although if the lump turns out to be an abscess then it may not be strong enough to clear it up & 'Zithromax' is often used as the 'big guns' to help clear the pus/infection (this is unlicensed on guineas-so you may need to sign a disclaimer for its use.) quite a few members on here have had success with Zithromax.

You should give the probiotic (avipro/pro-c/biolapis) about 2hrs after the Baytril dosage - if you give it with/before/immediately after wards the antibiotic kills off the good bacteria as well as the bad & so it won't be of any use, it must be given 1.5-2hrs after the antibiotic (baytril).
try & sprinkle powders on top of their favorite food & handfeed or add to a small 1ml syringe of water to syringe feed, that way you know how much they are getting ( if you just add it to their water bottle it may taint the flavour so that they drink less water or if you have multiple piggies, you don't know how much the poorly one is getting.)
Baytril is quite harsh on their gut, that's why a probiotic is recommended (they usually hate the taste of baytril too!)

Are you sure the vet gave you steroids? what was it called? Guineas are not generally supposed to have steroids so i would double check with the vet if they have prescribed them. ask for an alternative if possible.

did the vet try draining any fluid out of the lump, possible abscess with a needle? has the lump grown quickly in size? please keep an eye on it & take back to the vets if it grows or bursts (if its an abscess it will stink) it will probably either need to be removed or drained & flushed through to get rid of any pus.

if its a dental abscess keep a note of how much the piggy eats-as they can easily cause dental deformities if the teeth aren't being ground down with hay eating, due to pain making piggies lose their appetite too.

daily weighing will help whilst she is unwell, just to make sure she is gaining weight healthily & gradually being so young.

fingers crossed & healing vibes being sent for your little one.xx
 
It looks like you have been given Metacam for dogs, there is also a cat variety they are just different strengths of the same active ingredient. sometimes referred to as Loxicom.
its a painkiller & anti inflammatory. this is a normal medication & i have used it many times over the years for my girls & had no bad side effects (except the guinea trying to steal the syringe as they love it so much!)

it's easier to dose with a 1ml syringe, but the metacam for dogs often gets supplied with a Kg increment dose printed on it, however heavy the dog is - thats the dose that is given, its just easier for people to understand & work out for dosages with dogs.
however the kg dosage method for guineas is a bit confusing & not as accurate. hence vets usually give dosages in ml.

the baytril is an antibiotic & will help to kill off any infection. although if the lump turns out to be an abscess then it may not be strong enough to clear it up & 'Zithromax' is often used as the 'big guns' to help clear the pus/infection (this is unlicensed on guineas-so you may need to sign a disclaimer for its use.) quite a few members on here have had success with Zithromax.

You should give the probiotic (avipro/pro-c/biolapis) about 2hrs after the Baytril dosage - if you give it with/before/immediately after wards the antibiotic kills off the good bacteria as well as the bad & so it won't be of any use, it must be given 1.5-2hrs after the antibiotic (baytril).
try & sprinkle powders on top of their favorite food & handfeed or add to a small 1ml syringe of water to syringe feed, that way you know how much they are getting ( if you just add it to their water bottle it may taint the flavour so that they drink less water or if you have multiple piggies, you don't know how much the poorly one is getting.)
Baytril is quite harsh on their gut, that's why a probiotic is recommended (they usually hate the taste of baytril too!)

Are you sure the vet gave you steroids? what was it called? Guineas are not generally supposed to have steroids so i would double check with the vet if they have prescribed them. ask for an alternative if possible.

did the vet try draining any fluid out of the lump, possible abscess with a needle? has the lump grown quickly in size? please keep an eye on it & take back to the vets if it grows or bursts (if its an abscess it will stink) it will probably either need to be removed or drained & flushed through to get rid of any pus.

if its a dental abscess keep a note of how much the piggy eats-as they can easily cause dental deformities if the teeth aren't being ground down with hay eating, due to pain making piggies lose their appetite too.

daily weighing will help whilst she is unwell, just to make sure she is gaining weight healthily & gradually being so young.

fingers crossed & healing vibes being sent for your little one.xx


Hi I got confused about the name and was out when I typed the first post. I thought it was steroids but it wasn't it was the metacam. My mistake. She hasn't done anything with the lump just told me to go back on Saturday and see the vet for small animals so hopefully there will be some change in her. There is so much to learn. They probably thought I was a right idiot yesterday as I am still nervous on holding them myself and she tried to get me to hold her while she stuck a thermometer in her bottom but I couldn't as she was too wriggly, she tutted at me I felt like a child.

Anyway I will do as suggested and get the pro biotic stuff. It will be hard as like this morning I feed them in a minute then go to work by 8 so she won't have any this morning. Hope her little tummy can cope.
 
Please don't fret about the lack of pro biotic. Baytril can be harsh but not all piggies will get an upset tummy and not all owners give pro biotic. We recommend best practice on here. Your piggy will be fine for a while with no probiotic.
I'm just glad you've had such good advice in the posts above about the correct dose of metacam. I'm guessing the vet you saw isn't a small animal specialist as most exotics vets or small pets vets would give cat strength metacam not dog strength.
Please weigh her and make sure she is eating and drinking well.
 
Please don't fret about the lack of pro biotic. Baytril can be harsh but not all piggies will get an upset tummy and not all owners give pro biotic. We recommend best practice on here. Your piggy will be fine for a while with no probiotic.
I'm just glad you've had such good advice in the posts above about the correct dose of metacam. I'm guessing the vet you saw isn't a small animal specialist as most exotics vets or small pets vets would give cat strength metacam not dog strength.
Please weigh her and make sure she is eating and drinking well.


Yes I am very grateful for all the responses it has given me some reassurance. No she was the emergency vet. I am glad I questioned her too as it would have been quite hard to get 1kg out of the bigger syringe! I have to weigh her every day until my next visit. Thanks again everyone.
 
Hi just thought I would post here again instead of a new thread. So tonight I brought koko in to giver her a little handfed food. What happened was she started eating the red pepper then was coughing and all the liquid at her nose came out red the same as the pepper. I feel so sorry for her. It's like every time she eats fresh food she is chocking
 
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