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Mollie Has Cystitis

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sport_billy said:
Thanks, I love finding out new things like that. I know you have a very good forward thinking vet... which often makes all the difference. Would imagine you could use Cystease also , just worth checking with the vet.
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i do too :) aidan is very into the latest research and gets excited explaining it all :)) it is really interesting though. :)
 
My piggy Petal has chronic cystitis, her bladder walls are thickened & despite bladder flush, antibiotics etc it's a management game here :) She has monthly Cartrophen injections & has had Cerenia when she gets a bad flare up. Despite urine being sent away, she has no infection so antibiotics are pointless. She smells a bit like dead fish on her bad days unfortunately, she can't help it, she is 5 years old & has had this for almost 3 1/2 years, it even caused pyometra & she had her womb & ovaries removed last Autumn & we nearly lost her. Her vet bills total 4 figures now! I guess I am totally mad, but I still feel she has a good quality of life, my vet is terrific & I know will tell me when I should stop keeping her going. She is on Potassium Citrate daily & 0.1ml Metacam which she also has daily for the rest of her life, but when I see her & her daughter (Daisy my avatar) snuggled next to each other, kissing each other's faces I don't regret one penny, although I could have bought a small car instead lol !
 
Poppy'sMum said:
My piggy Petal has chronic cystitis, her bladder walls are thickened & despite bladder flush, antibiotics etc it's a management game here :) She has monthly Cartrophen injections & has had Cerenia when she gets a bad flare up. Despite urine being sent away, she has no infection so antibiotics are pointless. She smells a bit like dead fish on her bad days unfortunately, she can't help it, she is 5 years old & has had this for almost 3 1/2 years, it even caused pyometra & she had her womb & ovaries removed last Autumn & we nearly lost her. Her vet bills total 4 figures now! I guess I am totally mad, but I still feel she has a good quality of life, my vet is terrific & I know will tell me when I should stop keeping her going. She is on Potassium Citrate daily & 0.1ml Metacam which she also has daily for the rest of her life, but when I see her & her daughter (Daisy my avatar) snuggled next to each other, kissing each other's faces I don't regret one penny, although I could have bought a small car instead lol !
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bless her. i remember you mentioning her when i posted about maisie's chronic cystitis. sounds like you manage her condition well and if she is happy and comfortable, and has quality of life then that is the main thing :luv:. don't think you are mad at all. think it's lovely actually and like you say, they are worth every single penny :luv:
 
i just came on to update really that mollie is already much brighter and back into her normal weight range today. not heard any squeaking today for the first day since last week when she originally started. she grunted twice today though and still has darker urine, but she's muttering 'pop pop pop' to herself, which is her content sound, and she did a little popcorn aswell. we feel she has definitely improved so we're really pleased. now lets hope she continues :)
 
thank you everyone :)

mollie is still very bright in herself. she did a little bit of squeaking last night, and a little groan/grunt. but the darker urine patches have reduced alot, and her weight is stable. i did see a tiny bit of thicker urine (?) in with her normal. it seemed like a normal bit of excess calcium to me, because it wasn't gritty, but i've made a note anyway to let the vet know if we end up back there again.

so far so good though :)
 
mollie started squeaking more again and yesterday her weight dropped quite a bit. she's at the vets now having xrays.
 
biscandmatt said:
mollie started squeaking more again and yesterday her weight dropped quite a bit. she's at the vets now having xrays.
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:( poor girl,hope the xray is clear, please let us know how she gets on x x
 
just heard from aidan. mollie has no sludge or stones, and no other abnormalities that they can see or feel. they're going to run a blood sample now to see if anything shows on that and ring me again in an hour or two when those results come back and we'll see where we're at then.
 
biscandmatt said:
just heard from aidan. mollie has no sludge or stones, and no other abnormalities that they can see or feel. they're going to run a blood sample now to see if anything shows on that and ring me again in an hour or two when those results come back and we'll see where we're at then.
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Well that is good news. At least you can rule out those, always worry about stones :(

Keep us posted x
 
Is there any chance it's down to ovarian cysts? The next non-invasive step you could take would be an ultrasound scan. It is possible that she may have a problem with her womb/ovaries which would cause pain when urinating & blood loss; Petal was found to have a pre-pyometra womb which had a nasty infection that even Zithromax wouldn't shift & she had to have a full spay in the end. She still has bladder issues, occasional small blood in the urine & squeaks a little when she poops rather than when she wees. The bladder wall gets stretched & then the cells pull apart & that's when infections can take hold; but blood in the urine could also be down to cystic ovaries or womb problems.Petal has a small dose of Metacam daily, about 0.1-0.2 ml to help any inflammation & Cartrophen injections once a month. It could be pain causing your piggy is losing weight maybe? Hope she feels better soon x
 
they're back home now :) the bloods were all clear aswell. everything within the normal range as it should be so that's brilliant. she has been taken off the antibiotic now for at least a week so that she can have a urine sample taken directly from her bladder and have it cultured to see what exactly is in there, and what antibiotics will be the best to treat it with. if no bacteria is found, then obviously it could be inflammation that is her issue (IC) so we'll wait and see. she is staying on metacam and cerenia until that next appointment.

so that is the next step anyway and then see where we are at. vets said mollie wasn't under for long (very light GA) and that she came round quickly, was fairly bright as she has been through this anyway, and she was given one syringe feed of about 15ml this afternoon just to make sure she was getting enough food after having the xray. they commented on her being easy to syringe aswell, which i told them she was :) eta: two xray views were taken of her bladder.

@Poppy'sMum - the ovarian cyst issue has been mentioned to me by the vet and that is a possibility which we will explore next after the urine culture and subsequent treatment if things still don't seem to be working and clearing this for her. it turned out to be the issue in maisie's chronic cystitis case about a year ago so definitely something to consider. maisie couldn't shift her chronic cystitis and hcg injections were given alongside the cystitis treatment aswell, after ruling out the usual sludge and stones etc :)

so happy to have my babies back home. both looked so pleased to be back in their cage, and benjie started popcorning straight away! :luv: they both did amazingly well today :luv::luv:
 
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cerenia dose is now 0.5ml 2x a day (because of using different strength tablets - the 16mg ones i think instead of the 24mg, crushed and mixed with that syrup stuff!) metacam dose is staying the same. (for those of you interested in medications and dosing) :)

eta: obviously sometimes it depends how much syrup they mix with the tablets as to the dose given. i just mention treatment as a guide for anyone interested or anyone searching in future :)
 
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mollie and benjie have had to stay at the vets tonight. they've tried to get a sterile urine sample from mollie but need her bladder to be full. the first time they went to take it, she did a wee just before! they tried again twice more later on but her bladder wasn't full then either. they said it can be a task getting one, just because they can't give the ga a certain way as obviously it relaxes them and then they naturally empty their bladder.

feel really disappointed that they've had to stay. they're both fine though they said and they'll try again to get the sample first thing. i usually go and get them and take them back in the morning, but they think leave them settled there rather than the journey back to just go again to be there for 8am again. it's a 40min journey normally but even longer at that time of the morning. miss them being here though :(
 
argh, they still can't get the sample they need from her. they're both settled and ok though so that's something. i just want them home though!
 
they still couldn't get it so they've kept them in again tonight. he said it's like mollie knows what they're upto which wouldn't surprise me as she's very clever! apparently both are settled, eating and drinking fine, and pooping and peeing lots!

they'll try again in the morning. fingers crossed.

(i like to keep these updates for myself aswell hence why i keep posting! :)))
 
biscandmatt said:
they still couldn't get it so they've kept them in again tonight. he said it's like mollie knows what they're upto which wouldn't surprise me as she's very clever! apparently both are settled, eating and drinking fine, and pooping and peeing lots!

they'll try again in the morning. fingers crossed.

(i like to keep these updates for myself aswell hence why i keep posting! :)))
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:( Any news this morning?

Love to little Mollie x x
 
i have my piggies back home again now finally :)

mollie had her sample taken this morning with the help of a whiff of gas and a catheter! the sample has now gone to the lab.

she's staying on metacam and cerenia until the vet rings me in probably 2-3 days with the culture results.

vet nurse said mollie and benjie are such a great little piggy couple :luv: and that benjie has been wanting attention from all the nurses! he's such a people pig :luv: both look absolutely fine and settled and totally unphased by it all to be honest! mollie is a little tired but that is to be expected. she's resting now but both looked so pleased to be back home and began eating hay straight away :tu:
 
biscandmatt said:
i have my piggies back home again now finally :)

mollie had her sample taken this morning with the help of a whiff of gas and a catheter! the sample has now gone to the lab.

she's staying on metacam and cerenia until the vet rings me in probably 2-3 days with the culture results.

vet nurse said mollie and benjie are such a great little piggy couple :luv: and that benjie has been wanting attention from all the nurses! he's such a people pig :luv: both look absolutely fine and settled and totally unphased by it all to be honest! mollie is a little tired but that is to be expected. she's resting now but both looked so pleased to be back home and began eating hay straight away :tu:
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Glad your little trooper is back home and sample has been collected. Please keep us updated with the results and dispense piggy cuddles to your little ones. Have a hug too x
 
sport_billy said:
Glad your little trooper is back home and sample has been collected. Please keep us updated with the results and dispense piggy cuddles to your little ones. Have a hug too x
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thank you for the hug. i need it :)) over two days i had to cope without them here. it's like torture! :)) i missed them so much but i knew they'd be fine at the vets. mollie is super tough and benjie is just happy if he is getting attention. and it's always reassuring when they have each other aswell :luv:

i should get the first result back in a few days so will keep updating. and i will pass on your cuddles to them aswell :luv:
 
I know, its awful being without them :( You do have great vets though which is a comfort I guess... Hoping the culture may throw up some ideas as to what is going on with her.
 
sport_billy said:
I know, its awful being without them :( You do have great vets though which is a comfort I guess... Hoping the culture may throw up some ideas as to what is going on with her.
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it's definitely reassuring to know they will be well looked after. the vet nurse i saw today has piggies of her own so she loved them :))
 
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