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MooMoo&Nibbles

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Hello. I saw moo moo go inside of nibbles house and nibble started teeth chattering again.
I came by to clean there cage so I put them in the white one so I could vacuum there mess, nibbles moved his house under the gate I think because of all the hay and hay dust.
Inside the white cage they teeth chatters head bumped. Head ramed. Fought. Biting each other.
Neck and ears. Jumped in each others face.
After cleaning I put them back. After all the bending over to clean there cage I couldn't watch or handle them because serve back pain
 

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Update: now there both in moo moos snak shak laying down. But when moo moo comes inside nibbles house. Nibbles starts teeth chattering.
Neither wants to be sumbissive.
It's been about a week or two since I got them.
 
There still in moo moos house
This almost never happens.
I'm scared to wake up and go away because I have other stuff, and they die. And u can't really put one in another cage no more money for bedding ect. And I don't think it's alright for one to get a huge cage and the other small
 

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First time they fought was in the there main cage the big one. After thoes. In the play pin nibbles came to me and moo moo said hi and
came by nibbles started teeth chattering, then in the play pin nibbles laid down and rested and moo moo came by wanting to play then nibbles got up and started teeth chattering. And now this.
"Just the events I know of"
 
Hi! Are the bites bloody? In that case, you need to separate permanently.
If there has been just nipping you have to either sit it out (please remove all hideys with just one entrance) or separate short-term with the risk that they may not go back together when you re-introduce on neutral ground.
Please read these threads here:
https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/threads/boars-bullying-fighting-fall-outs-and-what-next.127295/
https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/threads/dominance-behaviours-in-guinea-pigs.28949/
 
Wiebke said:
Hi! Are the bites bloody? In that case, you need to separate permanently.
If there has been just nipping you have to either sit it out (please remove all hideys with just one entrance) or separate short-term with the risk that they may not go back together when you re-introduce on neutral ground.
Please read these threads here:
https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/threads/boars-bullying-fighting-fall-outs-and-what-next.127295/
https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/threads/dominance-behaviours-in-guinea-pigs.28949/
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No blood from what I can see. Also 5 minutes after the fight I took the picture you can see of there faces. I just gave them green peppers.
 
Wiebke said:
Hi! Are the bites bloody? In that case, you need to separate permanently.
If there has been just nipping you have to either sit it out (please remove all hideys with just one entrance) or separate short-term with the risk that they may not go back together when you re-introduce on neutral ground.
Please read these threads here:
https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/threads/boars-bullying-fighting-fall-outs-and-what-next.127295/
https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/threads/dominance-behaviours-in-guinea-pigs.28949/
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I normaly hear a lot of sneezes. With may be growls or irrational puffs,

There now in there own houses.

Some times they run arround fast together jump up hopping and head fast fidgeting while jumping. So what the heck and I read the threads you sent me but I can't tell what's what. Still see no blood
 
Moo moo humps nibbles. Does the motor noise slowly walks and wiggles butt.
Nibbles humps moo moo at any direction and does the teeth chattering.

One time moo moo was running and accidentally ran into nibbles and clashed heads. Instaly nibbles teeth chatters and moo moo slowly teeth chatterd and walked side ways out of nibbles home slowly
 
MooMoo&Nibbles said:
I normaly hear a lot of sneezes. With may be growls or irrational puffs,

There now in there own houses.

Some times they run arround fast together jump up hopping and head fast fidgeting while jumping. So what the heck and I read the threads you sent me but I can't tell what's what. Still see no blood
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Hopping and fidgeting is called popcorning. If there is no blood, it rather looks like normal dominance behaviour, especially if you have had your boys only for a short while and they are still establishing a hierarchy and a working relationship.
 
Wiebke said:
Hopping and fidgeting is called popcorning. If there is no blood, it rather looks like normal dominance behaviour, especially if you have had your boys only for a short while and they are still establishing a hierarchy and a working relationship.
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After the fight the pics of them there whole body then inside the house I see no blood? I don't know if they sniff each other but ts or bite. But they do that too
 
Update: moo moo is outside the house and now nibbles is inside his house. I think moo moo was getting food? But I came by and he hid behind the house like I don't see him lol

Nibbles is still in moo moos house and moo moo tried to come in Nd nibbles pulled his head out the house and moo moo ran off. Now there in the opposites houses.
 
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it can be very much nerve wracking watching the dominance behaviour but if they are popcorning then that is a good sign. Like Wiebke suggests if there is no blood I would sit it out and pray!
 
Lady Kelly said:
it can be very much nerve wracking watching the dominance behaviour but if they are popcorning then that is a good sign. Like Wiebke suggests if there is no blood I would sit it out and pray!
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If there is blood then I would not accept it, there's not enough room for another cage and it's not fair one gets the big house and the other gets a small one.
I'm off to the pet store soon, going to try and find. Tube so I can pick them up with out chasing them.
I really hope when I'm asleep or gone they don't do nothing stupid.
 
Caan you please say how long have you had your boys and how old they are?
 
This was a second ago but now there in there own house
 

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The pet store lady told me nibbles was 8weeks. And moo moo was 10-12weeks. I got them about a week ago maybe a week and a half now.

In the pet shop I got them from. In America where I live there was about 10-20 guinea pigs together male and female.
Two big houses 8 was in each and some where out
 
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When I was about 12-14 I had two guinea pigs in a c&c cage. I remember bob was dominant and Cesar was sumbissive. I think at first Cesar fought constanty. In a few months he became sumbissive. But MORE... I think about it Cesar was being bullied. They would pop corn. But when it came to food and stuff like that, Bob would pick up and ring a bell for green peppers he taught himself that trick himself but god I can't remember. It was a long time ago
Cesar would hide in corners and some time couldn't get food. Acted shy and scared and skiddish
 
I only have sows, so I would defer to the more experienced posters on boar behavior. My only suggestion might be that, while cleaning and needing to move them from their cage, it may be a good idea to let a family member hold the pigs (either together or separately) or put them each in a separate container (not having spare cages, I have occasionally put a pig in need of temporary housing into a laundry basket with a towel at the bottom.) Taking both and putting them into a much smaller enclosure may be provoking some tension that this would help avoid.
 
Wiebke said:
Caan you please say how long have you had your boys and how old they are?
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Is this bullying. Or territory and is it a bad thing?
Nibbles came behind moos house and moo moo teeth chstterd. Then moo went inside nibbles house nibbles came straight to his house and teeth chstterd him right out, then nibbles started to mating dance and the motor sound. And started jumping on him and humping moo.
Then they started pop corning.
I'm so so confused
Low teeth chatter I beleive
 
But nibbles will go inside moo moos house and some times poke his head out and moo moo can't get in. And rarely they will both sleep in moo moos house
 
If I post some videos on YouTube can I give you the link to watch and see please, teeth chattering sideways walking
 
Please Google
Moomoo&nibbles

I uploaded a YouTube video of 25seconts.
To see what I'm talking about I'm on my phone so I can't link the website. But please watch it and let me know what you thinm
 
They fight. Territoryal, pop corn, sleepntogether, and don't sleepntogether, I don't understand
 
It's quite early in the UK . One of our experts will be logging on later and will answer your questions. I am no expert at boar behaviour but can tell you a few things which may help you.

- some compatible guinea pig pairs simply aren't chummy and don't sleep together . This is not abnormal.
- a bit of competition for a favourite food bowl or a favourite sleeping area is normal . The reason for providing 2 of everything when you have a pair is to make sure the least dominant guinea pig does not miss out.

When I 1st put my 3 together , they made a heck of a din . This lasted a few weeks while they sorted out who was boss and where they were in their hierarchy. This is normal.

I hope this helps.
 
Could you look at the video? I mean it just happened out of no where at all!
 
Like how we cut sawed and melted and zip tied the babys play pin. We were thinking about adding a second floor for more room, think it is okay? Or stop the fighting? Should I separate the houses downstairs and one upstairs, or just have the upstairs for more room?
 

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