Morrisons Cabbage Medley - warning!

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I bought loads of bags of this tonight because they were all reduced to 9p. I thought it was the usual bags of cabbage I've bought from there in the past but I've just realised it has bits of leek in.... :...

I've scooped it all out of all the cages in a panic and fingers crossed it doesn't look like they've eaten it. Has anyone else done it by accident? I hope they'll all be ok.

We ate some too for dinner ourselves and didn't even notice it had leek in it.
 
...I fed my lot that mix the yesterday and they ate it all...are guineas not supposed to have leek? what can happen if they do it...oh god...I'm starting to cry now guuuuuuuuuh I'm scared :(
 
Leeks, like all onions, should not be fed on regular basis. However, they won't die from one lot!
 
Wiebke said:
Leeks, like all onions, should not be fed on regular basis. However, they won't die from one lot!
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That was my understanding also. My piggies get chives mixed with fresh grass once every couple of weeks. The love it and have been thriving on this treat for years..
 
Yep i fed it too I did realised after I had emptied a quarter of a bag into each cage! they seemed to eat it all. I just threw the other half away as didn't want to give them too much in one week.

they seem fine after two days no problems but will avoid it in future! why can't they call things leek and cabbage medley :))
 
The green tops of leek are safe to feed. Favourite treat of many pigs in the US. Similarly, chives can go down well with some pigs.

The actual bulb is best avoided but I have not heard anything to suggest that they are toxic. The amount of leek within the mix will also be minimal, very very low compared to the amount of cabbage. If there was a significant amount of leek, it would be called cabbage and leek medley!
 
:{ I didnt think guins could eat cabbage

any sort ?
How much?

could someone clarify

thanks

venice
 
venice said:
:{ I didnt think guins could eat cabbage

any sort ?
How much?

could someone clarify

thanks

venice
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yes guinea pigs can eat cabbage and just our standard green cabbage is fine,although unless you have 50 pigs one cabbage will go to wastes as they can only have tiny amounts every now and then as it makes them gassy,i dont feed it at all mine have cauliflour leaves very occasionally instead xx
 
Mine get cabbage almost every single day because it's reasonably high in vitamin C, available locally and were recommended by the rescue. It's also an organic veggie that keeps longer than a few days. Now they get kale too because I can get it (it's a christmas veggie here). Mine have not been sick from the cabbage, the poop normally and have soft bellies. The got fed cabbage at the rescue too (this is why I've continued) so maybe mine are used to it? I haven't tried leek though.
 
skrikopanik said:
Mine get cabbage almost every single day because it's reasonably high in vitamin C, available locally and were recommended by the rescue. It's also an organic veggie that keeps longer than a few days. Now they get kale too because I can get it (it's a christmas veggie here). Mine have not been sick from the cabbage, the poop normally and have soft bellies. The got fed cabbage at the rescue too (this is why I've continued) so maybe mine are used to it? I haven't tried leek though.
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id be very careful feeding that much cabbage,they can also get bloat from it and its a rapid killer so its something to be wary of,cabbage is listed as an occasional/small amounts veg
 
Thanks for the link! I'm just wondering if it really applies to all pigs as my pigs had all been at the rescue for almost a year and eaten cabbage there and been fine. Could they develop bloat out of the blue from something they have tolerated for so long?

In Sweden the recommendation for occational/small ammounts veg are mostly the acidic ones like tomato and peppers because they can cause mouth thrush. Lettuce, cucumber and carrot are suggested to be used as treats rather than food because pigs tend to fill up on them and they are not as nutritions as broccoli or cabbage...

I will do more reading on the subject and also check back with the rescue I got them from.
 
skrikopanik said:
Thanks for the link! I'm just wondering if it really applies to all pigs as my pigs had all been at the rescue for almost a year and eaten cabbage there and been fine. Could they develop bloat out of the blue from something they have tolerated for so long?

In Sweden the recommendation for occational/small ammounts veg are mostly the acidic ones like tomato and peppers because they can cause mouth thrush. Lettuce, cucumber and carrot are suggested to be used as treats rather than food because pigs tend to fill up on them and they are not as nutritions as broccoli or cabbage...

I will do more reading on the subject and also check back with the rescue I got them from.
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I'm not sure about the advice truthfully,broccoli and cabbage and parsely really are occasional things, red peppers are one of the best sources for vit C and i feed it a few times weekly,yellow peppers and green can be fed daily as they are lower in sugar than the red.tomato defiantely isnt an everyday veg,Lettuce is also great just not iceberg,any variety other than that is fantastic for them and often they are packed with nutrients,mine enjoy 2 varietys of watery veg everyday,I'm not sure about your lettuce variety over there but my piggies faves are red oak,green oak,cos and butter lettuce and all are good for pigs,
Cucumber is fed every second day here especially once it warms up as it hydrates the pigs too,i do feed it in smaller amounts so as guinealynx says the best diet really is variety,my piggies vary on a list roughly like this each week

baby corn
corn husks/silks
corn kernals
tomato
pakchoy
chinese broccoli & leaves
Cos lettuce/butter lettuce/oak
red/green and yellow peppers
snow peas and snow pea sprouts
dutch carrots as they love the green tops
a few carrots
cucumber
green beans
parsley-twice a week
and usually twice a week a small amount of fruit,on this weeks menu was strawberries and blueberries

i guess as they have been fed on it they could have adapted but its possible that at anytime they may have a bad reaction to to much of it,some piggies are also more prone to bloat and once bloat happens its hard to treat in time so its not worth the risk xxxxxxx
 
skrikopanik said:
Thanks for the link! I'm just wondering if it really applies to all pigs as my pigs had all been at the rescue for almost a year and eaten cabbage there and been fine. Could they develop bloat out of the blue from something they have tolerated for so long?
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I am no expert, but I would have thought that if you've fed it daily for such a long time with no problems, then their digestive system has probably got used to it by now. I understand that cabbage can cause bloat, but I would have thought that would be far more likely in guinea-pigs who are not used to it. I've never been to Sweden, but I can appreciate that there will be certain foods that are easier for you to get over others. Variety is still the key though; are there other foods available locally that you can feed them too?
 
I will probably, just to be safe, reduce the amount of cabbage and broccoli (slowly though as they are already used to it). Sometimes living in a sub arctic country is so frustrating! It's always choices... local or imported, organic or conventional and then the nutrition on top of that. Because the piggies are so small and sensitive I want them to eat organic hay and produce. Organic hay is easy enough to find and I subscribe to an organic veggie box but most of the stuff in it is imported and I can't decide exactly what to get so I might not get the perfect amount or variety of piggie vegetables each week. So then I need to decide if I want to buy something that may have pesticides in it (and no, they don't wash away in the colander...) or something that is not on the preferred veggie list. (not to mention that there are several lists!) Aaargh.... I can't wait for summer. I'm so excited about the prospect of letting them eat grass all day long :)

And not I totally stole this thread... sorry!
 
skrikopanik said:
I will probably, just to be safe, reduce the amount of cabbage and broccoli (slowly though as they are already used to it). Sometimes living in a sub arctic country is so frustrating! It's always choices... local or imported, organic or conventional and then the nutrition on top of that. Because the piggies are so small and sensitive I want them to eat organic hay and produce. Organic hay is easy enough to find and I subscribe to an organic veggie box but most of the stuff in it is imported and I can't decide exactly what to get so I might not get the perfect amount or variety of piggie vegetables each week. So then I need to decide if I want to buy something that may have pesticides in it (and no, they don't wash away in the colander...) or something that is not on the preferred veggie list. (not to mention that there are several lists!) Aaargh.... I can't wait for summer. I'm so excited about the prospect of letting them eat grass all day long :)

And not I totally stole this thread... sorry!
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:(|)you really are a crazy piggymum;),a with anything organic is always best but its not detrimental,most people just feed ordinary veg and youll find the most important part that you need to spen more money on are the pellets and hay,
http://www.oxbowanimalhealth.com/

have great quality stuff,i have found these things can play a huge part in overall health as does veg xx
 
My piggies have always had cabbage they like it and it has never (touching wood now) caused any problems :)
 
Cabbage is one of those foods that you should give in moderation even if the pigs are fine with it. It is a safe food, but if the pig is prone to digestive problems (such as bloat, or even other digestive disorders) it's not worth sticking with cabbage. Half a leaf at most a day is plenty, the rest of the leafy part of the diet can be made up with lettuces and herbs.

A couple of my pigs cannot tolerate cabbage, kale, broccoli or brussels sprouts, as it does cause them to become bloated. Their condition is chronic bloat, not acute (where the pig requires urgent veterinary treatment and is at risk of losing their life). Although, as yet - *touch wood* - my own pigs conditions have not been life-threatening; they remain eating, but each pigs abdomen is tight, swollen and tender. I treat them at home with Buscopan as it is a mild case of a serious condition, but if I didn't cut out the foods that I know make them develop the condition, they would continually get worse.
 
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