After you have done a feed try putting clean grass or fresh hay in front of him as a feed usually kick starts their appetite. Poke the grass or hay into his mouth if he won’t try for himself.
Okay I'll try that thank you.After you have done a feed try putting clean grass or fresh hay in front of him as a feed usually kick starts their appetite. Poke the grass or hay into his mouth if he won’t try for himself.
I've tried that but his favourite seems to be Emeraid sustain mint flavour that I buy from hyperdrug online, it's actually alot cheaper on there than it is buying it from anywhere else if that also helps you. Most places even vets charge £18 for one packet and luckily I can get it for £7+. Before dental surgery he was eating alot of mint leaf so he seems to like mint. I do have another Emeraid flavour that is white powder but he doesn't seem keen on that one.I've just caught up with your thread. What a difficult and worrying time you are having. One thing I have done when mine have been difficult to syringe feed is change the make of feed. Sometimes it's done the trick and it's turned out they didn't like the flavour! The most popular with my piggies has been Emeraid Sustaine but Burgess Duo Care and Science Selective Recovery Plus have been favourites with others.
You are ding really well, it's all very confusing and worrying the first time you have to syringe feed.
That's what I thought, it can't be a quality of life surely? But these owners tell others not to put guinea pigs to sleep if they are still bright etc and also there are guinea pigs who have got better after a few months all of sudden so there might be a chance he will get better.While they could be kept alive by eating critical care, you have to consider if there is a point at which it becomes unfair to do so if there is no chance of issue being properly resolved - quality of life of not being able to eat another solid item, alongside time needed to do it, risks of repeated anaesthetic and cost for monthly dentals.
Did he lose weight again this morning?
That's what I thought, it can't be a quality of life surely? But these owners tell others not to put guinea pigs to sleep if they are still bright etc and also there are guinea pigs who have got better after a few months all of sudden so there might be a chance he will get better.
I have just weigh him now while he is out, he's now 1088g & he was 1103g yesterday which isn't good but he might gain the weight back on again after I had a chat with you guys on here yesterday about spreading the feed more in smaller amounts so I'm not feeding him too much in one go so I've started that today so here's hoping. He's being abit difficult taking it though.
If he's not eating solid foods by wed-thurs I'm thinking of asking the vet for some advice but I was hoping not to take him in just yet because I've already spent alot of money so I might just carry on with critical food if the vet is happy with that. I need to get more metacam when it runs out.
No I haven't been doing that because everything has been all over the place but I have been weighing him everyday just not at the same time but my plan was to start it all properly tomorrow because today I started feeding him bit by bit like I was told so I will weigh him first thing tomorrow and try to do the same time everyday.Are you weighing him at the same time each day? The best thing is to always weigh first thing in the morning beside the first feed of the day.
At this point you cannot hope for weight gain. Your aim at present is simply to stop weight loss and keep him stable. Weight gain takes a long time and won’t happen until he is sorted out and fully eating independently again.
See what happens at tomorrow’s weight check as a result of the change to your feeding routine today.
He certainly doesn’t need to be put to sleep if the dental issue can be corrected or managed but that means him being able to eat pretty much independently (top ups may be needed) between dentals should ongoing dental work be needed.
You will have to have him seen again if he isn’t eating by himself. A piggy who can eat will eat so if he isn’t then or suggests something isn’t right somewhere.
As we have said before with any luck it is that the teeth were filed too short and once they grow out he will improve. However if the vet diagnoses that everything right now is absolutely fine then without getting to Simon and Kim I'm not sure where you can go from here
Also, I forgot to mention that I have noticed if I watch him closely I can see his nerves moving on his left side of face, does that mean anything? This has been going on for a few days and I forgot to mention it to the vet last Friday. I thought it would settle by now if he's had meds but it's moving by itself but it's not hugely visible unless you watch him for a while.Are you weighing him at the same time each day? The best thing is to always weigh first thing in the morning before the first feed of the day.
At this point you cannot hope for weight gain. Your aim at present is simply to stop weight loss and keep him stable. Weight gain takes a long time and won’t happen until he is sorted out and fully eating independently again.
See what happens at tomorrow’s weight check as a result of the change to your feeding routine today.
He certainly doesn’t need to be put to sleep if the dental issue can be corrected or managed but that means him being able to eat pretty much independently (top ups may be needed) between dentals should ongoing dental work be needed.
You will have to have him seen again if he isn’t eating by himself. A piggy who can eat will eat so if he isn’t then it can suggest something isn’t right somewhere.
As we have said before with any luck it is that the teeth were filed too short and once they grow out he will improve. However if the vet diagnoses that everything right now is absolutely fine then without getting to Simon and Kim I'm not sure where you can go from here
No I haven't been doing that because everything has been all over the place but I have been weighing him everyday just not at the same time but my plan was to start it all properly tomorrow because today I started feeding him bit by bit like I was told so I will weigh him first thing tomorrow and try to do the same time everyday.
I will see what the vet says next week as he's only there twice a week. Thankyou
Hi thankyou for asking and I'm thinking of phoning the vet for advice but I'm not sure what to do.Don't mean to pry but is there any update on your boy?
I'm really sorry to read that. I know you'll be going through a rollercoaster of emotions looking for signs that he's getting better or getting worse. I don't want to give you any advice because not only am I recently bereaved myself with a similar issue, I don't have the experience or knowhow on GP behaviour like many on the forum. All I'd say is you clearly care for your boy, just make sure he's comfortable and not in any pain.Hi thankyou for asking and I'm thinking of phoning the vet for advice but I'm not sure what to do.
I stopped his antibiotics a couple days ago to see if that will help him to eat and yesterday he improved really well, he was taking the critical care 10ml at every feed so I managed to get about 50ml in him which was more than before but this morning he's back to how he is by refusing the critical care, spitting it out so I only managed 4ml today which isn't good. He was fighting it so much and he even tried to jump off which is not like him at all as he is usually very calm so I had to put him back in as I didn't want to stress him out. It has been a week now, he still isn't eating any hard foods at all even though yesterday he seemed interested in hay but he just couldn't eat it, I tried to help him by putting it in his mouth gently before I fed him first thing but it came out with alot of saliva. He's losing weight everyday so he can't really carry on like this otherwise he won't survive. I really thought he was improving
It's okay I understand. I think the best thing to do is email the vets to explain the situation and go from there. See what they say. I appreciate you asking how he is. I'm sorry that you lost your guinea pig, it's awful isn't it. Guinea pigs are very difficult, I think they must be the most complicated animal to treat. I really hope he gets better as I can't imagine him not being here anymore. I will do my best for him.I'm really sorry to read that. I know you'll be going through a rollercoaster of emotions looking for signs that he's getting better or getting worse. I don't want to give you any advice because not only am I recently bereaved myself with a similar issue, I don't have the experience or knowhow on GP behaviour like many on the forum. All I'd say is you clearly care for your boy, just make sure he's comfortable and not in any pain.
No it wasn't completed I had a suspicion that it was causing him to lose appetite and then he improved alot the next day with eating. He seems more better now than he was on antibiotics even if he's not taking all the feed but it's better than nothing. He was on Baytril years ago, it caused him to wee blood and it stopped soon as I took him off the antibiotics, he went back to normal. He did have an scan to make sure there was no stones but it turned out it was the Baytril.When you say you stopped his antibiotics, was it because the course was completed?
You will need to speak to the vet and he needs to be seen again. If he could eat then he would
Be, so there is still something wrong with him which needs addressing
No it wasn't completed I had a suspicion that it was causing him to lose appetite and then he improved alot the next day with eating. He seems more better now than he was on antibiotics even if he's not taking all the feed but it's better than nothing. He was on Baytril years ago, it caused him to wee blood and it stopped soon as I took him off the antibiotics, he went back to normal. He did have an scan to make sure there was no stones but it turned out it was the Baytril.
I'm not against medications but the vets do prescribe antibiotics without a diagnosis though, I do understand why they do it for precaution but they shouldn't give out antibiotics unless they are diagnosed with an infection or something. Iam still giving him the painkiller metacam.
I'm waiting for response to my email at the moment, the exotic vet isn't there today so I don't think I'll get an answer today I'm not sure.
I've told the vets on email what I've done so see what they say.I assumed he was put on and antibiotics due to the cut in his mouth?
Please never just stop a course of antibiotics workout prior vet approval as doing so can cause more problems than it solves
Update- I have just got home from the vets. Artimus had to be put to sleep. He was very poorly, I tried my best to help him. The vet said it was the kindest thing for him because he wouldn't eat for himself at all and he had bad dental roots so it wasn't fair to keep putting him through surgeries. He looked quite flat, had no energy. He suffered with bad diarrhea yesterday and over night, it was because the critical care went straight through him that built up inside his stomach the last few days which I didn't even know so even then syringe feeding wasn't helping him at all. I'm really devastated. I do feel like I have let him down but it was for the best. The vet said they hide pain very well & he thinks he had dental issues for about a year which it wasn't noticeable until he stopped eating.
Thankyou to everyone on here that tried to help with their advice.