My New Guinea pigs aren’t bonding

Rayofsunshine

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Ok just got 4 Cali guinea pigs breeder said would send 4 8 week old babies 2 males and 2 females but one of girls seems a lot bigger than the other and same with boys the 2 girls didn’t want to sleep in same hide so have had to put another hide in they look so scared and sad separate would love them to bond but think breeder has put in any 2 females and they just don’t know each other what can I do to help them bond the boys sometimes sleep in same hide and feed side by side at times but am sure one is just a baby and other one older bigger Male is doing that rumbling noise and hip swaying and chasing baby one a bit don’t want baby to get hurt am not going to be hasty and separate them as none of them are fighting and I know guinea pigs are miserable living alone am hoping that in time the pairs will bond they were couriered from Yorkshire to Scotland and I know that is a lot for them to cope with have only had them for a week please can anyone help thanks in advance
 
If you have all four in together please split into two pairs of the same sex. They do mate very young. You need to give time for them to settle in, they will be scared at first for a while. Atleast if you have 2 of each sex, later on down the line you can see which two of the same sex get along. Just dont have a male and female in together.
 
Hi and welcome to the forum. The poor little mites must be terrified. Goodness only knows how they were transported.
If I'm understanding right, you have the boys separated from the girls, which is essential. What you have described just seems like normal, mild dominance behaviour. If you have a look in the forums tab at the top of the page you will find lots of useful information about behaviour and how to look after piggies properly.
One concern would be to check they are properly sexed, and a check up at the vet would be helpful.
 
If you have all four in together please split into two pairs of the same sex. They do mate very young. You need to give time for them to settle in, they will be scared at first for a while. Atleast if you have 2 of each sex, later on down the line you can see which two of the same sex get along. Just dont have a male and female in together.
Have had males and females in ;2 separate cages since got them will they bond eventually is it okay to have older male and baby in together
 
A baby and older will be fine as long as they are males, have plenty of room and they like each other. Give them time as they have had quite an ordeal. Please get them all vet checked and sexed so there are no mix ups.
 
A reputable pet courier takes great care when transporting piggies so it will only be the actually travelling that might have stressed them out like with any pigs that travel.
If they have only been together for a week then they will still be settling and will have taken a good few days to calm down after travelling. You don't need to worry about the girls not sharing the same hide or anything. Not all guinea pigs like to cuddle up with each other. I have 2 boys who have been together 2 years now and have never shared a hide or snuggled together so that is normal.

The behavior you have described from the boys is again fairly normal. Boys will regularly rumble strut to work out dominance even in a bonded pair. As long as there has been no fighting they will get more used to each other over time. They sound like they are doing fine.
 
A baby and older will be fine as long as they are males, have plenty of room and they like each other. Give them time as they have had quite an ordeal. Please get them all vet checked and sexed so there are no mix ups.
Already have and are def 2 boys .thanks for the advice was worried about baby. Hopefully they will bond through time.
 
A reputable pet courier takes great care when transporting piggies so it will only be the actually travelling that might have stressed them out like with any pigs that travel.
If they have only been together for a week then they will still be settling and will have taken a good few days to calm down after travelling. You don't need to worry about the girls not sharing the same hide or anything. Not all guinea pigs like to cuddle up with each other. I have 2 boys who have been together 2 years now and have never shared a hide or snuggled together so that is normal.

The behavior you have described from the boys is again fairly normal. Boys will regularly rumble strut to work out dominance even in a bonded pair. As long as there has been no fighting they will get more used to each other over time. They sound like they are doing fine.
Ok will def keep in pairs you’re probably right they all just need time 😋
 
Ok just got 4 Cali guinea pigs breeder said would send 4 8 week old babies 2 males and 2 females but one of girls seems a lot bigger than the other and same with boys the 2 girls didn’t want to sleep in same hide so have had to put another hide in they look so scared and sad separate would love them to bond but think breeder has put in any 2 females and they just don’t know each other what can I do to help them bond the boys sometimes sleep in same hide and feed side by side at times but am sure one is just a baby and other one older bigger Male is doing that rumbling noise and hip swaying and chasing baby one a bit don’t want baby to get hurt am not going to be hasty and separate them as none of them are fighting and I know guinea pigs are miserable living alone am hoping that in time the pairs will bond they were couriered from Yorkshire to Scotland and I know that is a lot for them to cope with have only had them for a week please can anyone help thanks in advance

Hi and welcome!

Please be aware that we are a strictly non-breeding forum. You have accepted our explicit rules during the sign up. Any advice we will give is strictly for preventing any further breeding. Any ongoing pregnancy support will only be given if you cooperate to make sure that there are no future pregnancies of your own doing.
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Please double-check and sex your piggies and split them into same sex pairs. You cannot keep sows and boars together unless they are de-sexed, full stop. Two boars and two sows will also never work; as soon as your boys hit the teenage months, bloody fights are guaranteed.
What to check and look out for in new guinea pigs (vet checks, sexing, parasites&illness)
Adding More Guinea Pigs Or Merging Pairs – What Works And What Not?

Sows have their first season from 4-6 weeks onwards, boars start at 3-5 weeks (basically as soon as they are weaned). They come into season roughly every two weeks and never stop being able to conceive until they die. They also come into season again within hours of giving birth. They are basically nonstop breeding machines from the moment they are weaned until they die from birthing complications or being too worn out from too many births at a young age unless we step in. Boars don't have a menopause, either. :(

There is a good likelihood that you are already dealing with a sub-teenage pregnancy, which means that vital resources are diverted from your sows' bodies at a time when they need them for growing and maturing themselves. Please be aware that 20% of all pregnancies end with the death of babies and/or mothers. Guinea pig pups are more advanced and are much larger than human babies, compared to their mother's weight/size. This percentage is with a very best of care. In all other case, the risk is going up much higher. Please also be aware that whatever the age of the mother, babies are the same birth size, so it is much harder for small mothers to get them out, and the damage for their body (so they survive the experience) can be permanent or even fatal (i.e. broken pelvis). Please make sure that you have a good vet and that you can pay up to $1000 for a cesarian operation upfront (US vet fee) in case you run into trouble during birth so your sows and any babies are not at risk of dying slowly and in total agony.
Please take the time to read our detailed pregnancy, birth, baby and mother care advice: Pregnancy & Baby Care Guide's

Also take the time to carefully read our new owners most helpful guides collection. We have a whole section that deals with settling in skittish piggies. Please be aware that commercial for sale breeder and shop piggies do not get anything in the way of friendly human interaction, so they have to very slowly get used to a home environment and to the idea that the big smelly giants hunting them down and playing with them before they maybe kill them when they get fed are not predators out to get them. Accept that this is a process that takes time. We have dedicated guides on how prey animal instincts work, how you can avoid behaving like a predator and understand piggy behaviour enough (there is a guide for that too) to use it make them feel safer in their own language is a slow and very gradual process. Guinea pigs are not living animated cuddly toys.
Getting Started - New Owners' Most Helpful Guides
 
Hi and welcome!

Please be aware that we are a strictly non-breeding forum. You have accepted our explicit rules during the sign up. Any advice we will give is strictly for preventing any further breeding. Any ongoing pregnancy support will only be given if you cooperate to make sure that there are no future pregnancies of your own doing.
Terms of Service And Forum Rules

Please double-check and sex your piggies and split them into same sex pairs. You cannot keep sows and boars together unless they are de-sexed, full stop. Two boars and two sows will also never work; as soon as your boys hit the teenage months, bloody fights are guaranteed.
What to check and look out for in new guinea pigs (vet checks, sexing, parasites&illness)
Adding More Guinea Pigs Or Merging Pairs – What Works And What Not?

Sows have their first season from 4-6 weeks onwards, boars start at 3-5 weeks (basically as soon as they are weaned). They come into season roughly every two weeks and never stop being able to conceive until they die. They also come into season again within hours of giving birth. They are basically nonstop breeding machines from the moment they are weaned until they die from birthing complications or being too worn out from too many births at a young age unless we step in. Boars don't have a menopause, either. :(

There is a good likelihood that you are already dealing with a sub-teenage pregnancy, which means that vital resources are diverted from your sows' bodies at a time when they need them for growing and maturing themselves. Please be aware that 20% of all pregnancies end with the death of babies and/or mothers. Guinea pig pups are more advanced and are much larger than human babies, compared to their mother's weight/size. This percentage is with a very best of care. In all other case, the risk is going up much higher. Please also be aware that whatever the age of the mother, babies are the same birth size, so it is much harder for small mothers to get them out, and the damage for their body (so they survive the experience) can be permanent or even fatal (i.e. broken pelvis). Please make sure that you have a good vet and that you can pay up to $1000 for a cesarian operation upfront (US vet fee) in case you run into trouble during birth so your sows and any babies are not at risk of dying slowly and in total agony.
Please take the time to read our detailed pregnancy, birth, baby and mother care advice: Pregnancy & Baby Care Guide's

Also take the time to carefully read our new owners most helpful guides collection. We have a whole section that deals with settling in skittish piggies. Please be aware that commercial for sale breeder and shop piggies do not get anything in the way of friendly human interaction, so they have to very slowly get used to a home environment and to the idea that the big smelly giants hunting them down and playing with them before they maybe kill them when they get fed are not predators out to get them. Accept that this is a process that takes time. We have dedicated guides on how prey animal instincts work, how you can avoid behaving like a predator and understand piggy behaviour enough (there is a guide for that too) to use it make them feel safer in their own language is a slow and very gradual process. Guinea pigs are not living animated cuddly toys.
Getting Started - New Owners' Most Helpful Guides
Hi my piggies were separated into same sex pairs when travelling here and on arriving at my home have no intention of breeding them just wanted some advice on bonding same sex pairs 😋
 
Make sure that you have several hour or ideally a day or two in which you can bond and keep an eye on your piggies. As hard as it is, don’t interfere unless absolutely necessary apart from adding more hay or fresh grass.
Bonding: Illustrated Dominance Behaviours And Dynamics
Hi am leaving them alone for a few days pleased to say when put in fresh hay food water and veggies today 2 girls were running around cage actually popcorning soooooooo pleased for them !
 
Hi my piggies were separated into same sex pairs when travelling here and on arriving at my home have no intention of breeding them just wanted some advice on bonding same sex pairs 😋

Thank you for clearing that up. It sounded like you wanted to keep them all together, and that was a rather worrying thought.

Please read the behaviour guides via the new owners link. We have general interactive behaviours guide as well as tips for sow and boar behaviour and problems.
 
This all sounds very normal. Not all pigs who are bonded are snuggly with one another (or not under all circumstances- mine will share a hidey at night or when they are stressed out, but otherwise when one goes in, the other gets turfed out!) And pigs of any age can be bonded, their willingness to live together depends much more on personality than age (I've had a different age pair for years, since in my original same-age pair, one lived to be 2 and one lived to be 6... this means there is always a gap. Right now we have 4-year-old Hadley and Leela who is almost 2... prior to that we had 4-year-old Sundae and baby Hadley, etc.) Take a look at the stickies at the top for normal dominance/bonding behaviors.

I'm not sure how far your cages are apart, but it will probably go better for your boars if they are not that close to your sows. If they can smell the presence of the girls, they will compete/fight for them even if they can't actually reach them.
 
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