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My two pigs were inherited from the lady next door, (actually, I think I might have kidnapped them) because we both knew that their winter quarters were far from ideal.

They are very nervous, (lack of handling and incorrect handling by children). I have attached photos of the home I have provided for them. I have put the run in an ex pigeon coop, weather proof, with a clear corrugated plastic roof. I keep my delicate plants in there for the winter. They have two shelters inside to hide in, and the run is off the floor and well insulated.

This is not going to be warm enough, so I have purchased an Elixir 70cm heating tube which is fitted inside the run but at a height that is out of reach of the pigs.

Putting electrical items inside the run was certainly counter intuitive. I use an extension lead with a cutout feature and there is no possibility of the pigs getting to anything that could be chewed.

They have 2 'hutches' (is that the right term?) inside the run. One hutch has a 32cm x 40cm Pecute heating mat inside, designed for animal use. The lead is armoured but it is also inaccessible for the pigs. It is waterproof, with a fleece lining that I cover with an old pillow case which I can change. I have tested the heat of this pad, it is gentle and they appear to love it. The other hutch is their 'bolt hole' for when I clean them out.

I rarely see them. I know it's not personal but I hope to get them to warm to me at some point. I have let them have a week of complete non-interaction but I know I will have to handle them at some point to check them over.

I was talking to my husband about this, who has been very clever with regard to setting up housing etc. (He is a very kind person and accepts all the animal waifs and strays I tend to end up with.) So, for my birthday, he bought a 'piggiecam'. A Wansview WiFi camera (about £25) which we have placed near the run (must be within wifi range) which is fantastic but such a time waster! I especially like that I can observe them to check that they are eating, drinking etc. I was worried that they were scared all the time, but the camera shows that they are happy, until I turn up, that is.

I have a question about the drinking bottle height. Should the pigs reach up for water? I watched them both drink this morning and they had to stretch a bit on their hind legs. Also, their pee has a little patch of white, almost chalky residue in the centre of it. Having read bad things about calcium, is this normal? We are in a soft water area btw.

One of the other things I got for my birthday was a thermometer that connects to my phone, so I can check the temperature of the hutch. Govee room thermometer with bluetooth about £15.

So, that's my winter viewing sorted. I would highly recommend the camera.
 

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It looks like you are all sorted for Winter. I love your camera, you are right, it’s so easy just to sit and watch them all day 😆 We have a night camera that we used to watch hedgehogs, we used to sit there for hours. Sadly they have not been around much lately, although keep seeing the odd hedgehog poo so there are some about. The thermometer is an excellent idea too, so you can monitor the temperature
Good on you for taking them in, it’s not easy seeing animals not being kept well x

The white deposits is calcium. You could buy a water filter to help remove the calcium if you live in a hard water area. Otherwise only give a tablespoon of pellets a day for each pig and avoid high calcium veggies like kale and spinach.
Have a look through the Guinea Pig guides, there is loads of info on diet and housing etc there
 
As long as the heater is going to be able to maintain their temperature above 15 degrees and they have enough space in the run, then it looks good. I would call that a hide rather than hutch. Hutches are stand-alone housing measuring considerably larger. I would definitely add in another couple of hides - they should have one each so there is no need for them to bicker over anything, particularly if your piggies are boars.

It looks as if you have straw in there. If so, then I would remove it and replace it all with hay. Straw isn’t a suitable bedding for piggies as it’s rather too sharp for them and is not edible.

Chalky residue. Piggies excrete excess calcium via the urine so seeing some is normal. However, if it feels gritty then you would need to take a look at the diet. Pellets and unfiltered drinking water contribute most calcium to the diet so ensuring pellets are kept strictly to one tablespoon per pig per day, and are ideally low calcium and grain free. Filtering water is advisable, although I do see you have soft water. Ensure high calcium veggies such as kale, spinach and parsley are kept to one small amount once per week only. However, it takes several weeks before any changes to them diet will have any effect in what you are seeing in their urine.

I just put the bottle in at roughly head height - it’s not something I particularly check
 
As long as the heater is going to be able to maintain their temperature above 15 degrees and they have enough space in the run, then it looks good. I would call that a hide rather than hutch. Hutches are stand-alone housing measuring considerably larger. I would definitely add in another couple of hides - they should have one each so there is no need for them to bicker over anything, particularly if your piggies are boars.

It looks as if you have straw in there. If so, then I would remove it and replace it all with hay. Straw isn’t a suitable bedding for piggies as it’s rather too sharp for them and is not edible.

Chalky residue. Piggies excrete excess calcium via the urine so seeing some is normal. However, if it feels gritty then you would need to take a look at the diet. Pellets and unfiltered drinking water contribute most calcium to the diet so ensuring pellets are kept strictly to one tablespoon per pig per day, and are ideally low calcium and grain free. Filtering water is advisable, although I do see you have soft water. Ensure high calcium veggies such as kale, spinach and parsley are kept to one small amount once per week only. However, it takes several weeks before any changes to them diet will have any effect in what you are seeing in their urine.

I just put the bottle in at roughly head height - it’s not something I particularly check
The heater has a thermostat and I should be able to monitor the ambient temperature with the thermometer, it's all a bit experimental at this stage. The straw was bought by the previous owner, it's barley straw, dust extracted and quite soft, almost like raffia? I know, being a horsey type, that wheat straw would definitely be too spikey. I have wood shavings as a substrate so I can get rid of it.

I will have a look at the pellets I'm feeding. They were also from the previous owner. Skewie (the skewbald one) is bolder than Pie (the piebald one) but I think Pie is a bit fatter. If I put 2 tablespoons into the dish, could just one of the pigs eat all of it? They love each other, by the way. When I looked after them in the summer, Pie would fret a bit when I took Skewie away to put him back in his hutch.
The white residue is definitely not gritty, but now I'm aware of the calcium issue I am checking everything I feed them.
 
it’s advisable to have two of everything so I would have two dishes and put one tablespoon in each. The other way is to not use bowls at all and instead scatter feed veg and pellets. This has two benefits - one piggy cannot hog all the food and they also get added enrichment as they then spend time foraging through the bedding for their food
 
It looks like you are all sorted for Winter. I love your camera, you are right, it’s so easy just to sit and watch them all day 😆 We have a night camera that we used to watch hedgehogs, we used to sit there for hours. Sadly they have not been around much lately, although keep seeing the odd hedgehog poo so there are some about. The thermometer is an excellent idea too, so you can monitor the temperature
Good on you for taking them in, it’s not easy seeing animals not being kept well x

The white deposits is calcium. You could buy a water filter to help remove the calcium if you live in a hard water area. Otherwise only give a tablespoon of pellets a day for each pig and avoid high calcium veggies like kale and spinach.
Have a look through the Guinea Pig guides, there is loads of info on diet and housing etc there
it’s advisable to have two of everything so I would have two dishes and put one tablespoon in each. The other way is to not use bowls at all and instead scatter feed veg and pellets. This has two benefits - one piggy cannot hog all the food and they also get added enrichment as they then spend time foraging through the bedding for their food
That is a good tip about the pellets, thanks.
 
Can’t wait to see pigtures once they are settled. 😃
I'm trying to work out if I can download the video/photos from the camera and post them. It is really fascinating to watch them, and I'm so relieved that they look happy, because they certainly don't when they see me.
 
You need to upload video to youtube first and then post a link to it here. The forum cannot directly host video
 
Still photo from piggiecam. It’s Pie, who is much more nervous of humans than Skew, but appears to be the boss in the partnership.
 

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Well done Ponymad for taking those gorgeous piggies on. It’s mesmerising watching them isn’t it !
My piggies were rehomed and one is ok to be handled but one is not. So you will get to know their personalities and work out what is best. I can tell you will have lots of fun with Skew and Pie 🥰
 
Well done Ponymad for taking those gorgeous piggies on. It’s mesmerising watching them isn’t it !
My piggies were rehomed and one is ok to be handled but one is not. So you will get to know their personalities and work out what is best. I can tell you will have lots of fun with Skew and Pie 🥰
What is the best way to start handling them? I can probably just about sit in the run. I put a couple of stalks of coriander at the mouth of their hide when I skip out in the morning, but they don’t touch it until I leave. (Mind you, I’d be nervous if I saw my huge face looming over me making chirping noises…) Last night I was on piggiecam and saw them both sleeping outside the hides, which worried me until I looked it up and discovered it was normal, and actually a good sign.
 
Best thing is to first sit by their cage and talk to them. They may hide the entire time but that’s fine, eventually they will come to realise you aren’t a threat. Then you can offer food from your hand. Again, they probably won’t take it to begin with but given time they will. When mine were first with me, I offered food from my hand and held it to them for a few seconds, then put it down and stepped away. They then ate the food. Over time I held it for longer before putting it down, eventually the braver one (dexter) of the two took it from me. That took six weeks for him to get to that point but from then on he didn’t run away from me when I entered their shed and was happy to be around me. It took my other boy (popcorn) took 18 months before he was brave enough to take food from me. Now, three and a half years down the line, they are both absolutely fine when I enter, they wheek when I go in, take food from me etc but Popcorn is always the first to spook.
Neither of mine like being held so to pick them up, I herd them into a carrier and then pick them up from there

You may find the piggy whispering tips helpful - Understanding Prey Animal Instincts, Guinea Pig Whispering and Cuddling Tips
 
Hi. Lovely pigs, well done for taking them on and providing for them. What food are you feeding them? I noticed a bag in one of the pictures. It looks like a science selective rabbit food. Do you own rabbits? If this is the piggies food, please change it ASAP, rabbits can make their own vitamin c, so don't need it in their food. Guinea pigs can't make their own vitamin c so need it in their food.
 
Hi. Lovely pigs, well done for taking them on and providing for them. What food are you feeding them? I noticed a bag in one of the pictures. It looks like a science selective rabbit food. Do you own rabbits? If this is the piggies food, please change it ASAP, rabbits can make their own vitamin c, so don't need it in their food. Guinea pigs can't make their own vitamin c so need it in their food.
 

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This was given to me by the previous owner, is it suitable? I think I was giving them too much though.
 
Ah good. Burgess is fine, remember it's 1tbsp per pig per day. That bag should last you a while ☺️

(Just looked back through the photos properly, it's hay in the bag which I thought was rabbit food 🤦‍♀️)
 
Ah good. Burgess is fine, remember it's 1tbsp per pig per day. That bag should last you a while ☺️

(Just looked back through the photos properly, it's hay in the bag which I thought was rabbit food 🤦‍♀️)
I know, it's still only half full. It will take a while to get through, especially as I'm no longer giving them an 'all you can eat' buffet.
 
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