Neutering Separated Boars?

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Hi everyone, I was hoping someone may be able to give some advice about my ongoing boar drama.
I currently have two boars who have been living in separate cages side by side for a few months since they were fighting badly before. I hope I haven't left them alone for too long but I think it's probably time I devise a longer-term plan that will benefit them the most.
At the moment they can still see each other and wheek to each other occasionally. I gave them a cuddly toy each but they both just looked at it with disdain and ignore it. They don't seem to be the cuddly type either now or when they were together, they never cuddled up to sleep together or anything like that. Leonard the 4-year old doesn't seem fazed at all by being on his own - he has always been a grumpy pig and likes to have his own way so it seems to me that with his age, it might be better not to neuter him and let him be alone but still next to his ex-friend. Is this a fair decision to make?
The other pig, Butternut is about 7 months old and unlike Leonard, does show signs of being a bit lonely. He sits and looks at Leonard longingly quite often and chews the bars between them. I was thinking that I should have him neutered then find a lady friend for him. I'm not keen on the idea of boar-dating again as that is how Leonard and Butternut met and they fell out soon after. From what I have read on here, I gather that a boar is more likely to get on with a sow and they shouldn't fight each other.

So, is this a sensible plan or does anyone think there is a better alternative?

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Louise
 
There are never any guarantees but it could work out really well. Boar/sow matches often work out well whereas boar duos can be rather hit and miss :). I even know of a rescue who neuters their boars and pairs them up with sows instead of trying to bond them with another boar! I'm currently doing a similar thing only the other way round. I had a sow who fell out with the other sows and now lives on her own. I have found a neutered boar for her and he will be here on the 4th May. Dating is the best way to go, and in my case this isn't possible so I'm taking a chance (but he should be fine to live with the other sows if it doesn't work out with my loner). I think sow dating seems like a good idea for your boar.
Once she's with him though your other boar may start to feel frustrated, so you may end up doing the same for him!
 
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Neutering both boys and bonding them with a sow each is a sensible long term option, so both boys can be happy.

However, it very much hinges on you finding a good neutering vet in order to minimise the risk of bad reactions to GA and post op complications. This is either a general vet with lots of practice in guinea pig neutering (usually for a rescue) or an exotics vet with experience in small furries operations. it is well worth travelling further for this.
Perhaps more local members can give you recommendations? We can give you tips on how to best prepare for the op and what to look out for post op. https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/pages/guinea-pig-vet-locator/

You will have to wait 6 weeks after the operation until your boys are 100% safe to go with a sow. I have the surprise daughter of a supposedly over 5 weeks post op boar (not one of mine) living here, so it can really happen as late as that; I have also since heard of other cases.

Again, if you could date your boys at a rescue for a girl each that clicks with them, you will be guaranteed a happier "marriage". Living with a sow is any boar's ultimate career dream, and both boys would be very happy indeed. As mixed couples, they can still live next to each other. My neutered boys do, each with his little harem!
 
Thanks for your replies guys.
The vet I currently use (Village Vets, Woolton, Liverpool) is an exotics specialist but not on this vet locator. Could that indicate they are not "approved" by forum members or something? My brother has been going to them for years for his rats and highly recommends. They quoted £85 for the procedure, is that about normal?
Do you think I should have my older boar neutered as well then? I thought he may be a little old to risk the operation at 4 yrs, especially when he seems happier on his own.
 
Thanks for your replies guys.
The vet I currently use (Village Vets, Woolton, Liverpool) is an exotics specialist but not on this vet locator. Could that indicate they are not "approved" by forum members or something? My brother has been going to them for years for his rats and highly recommends. They quoted £85 for the procedure, is that about normal?
Do you think I should have my older boar neutered as well then? I thought he may be a little old to risk the operation at 4 yrs, especially when he seems happier on his own.

Sorry, I wasn't aware that your other boy was already that old. I wouldn't have him neutered in that case. it is possible, but you really need somebody you trust totally, as at his age, any op is riskier and the healing takes longer.

We rely on members' recommendations for our vet locator, so if you are happy with your local exotics vet (who fills the category of "specialist with experience in small furries ops"), then by all means go ahead with him! Our locator is not exhaustive; it is just a help for new members to find a hopefully knowledgeable vet in their area.
The price is at the higher end, but it is much more important that you feel confident with your vet than quibbling over the price and ending up paying a fortune on post op complications!
 
Thanks for the good luck wishes :)
Someone else mentioned a really good vet in Liverpool recently. I wonder if yours is the same one?.....
I think it is best to have your vet assess him and talk about the risks of the operation. Although historically 4-5 years is considered old in guinea pigs they now have a tendency to live longer, and 5-7 is quite normal mainly due to an increase in knowledge of care and husbandry. 8+ is certainly not unheard of :). Your piggy may just be middle aged :) There are factors such as how he came to be (accidental litter, hobby breeder, commercial breeder), i.e. the health of his parents, how intensively his mother was bred, and the conditions he was kept in in his early life, genetic health history - it all can play a part in the longevity and overall health. Then there's factors including how he has been treated throughout his life, how he has been kept. The more you know of his history the better.
If he is spritely and robust your vet may feel quite confident about the operation. If he is showing signs of age then perhaps not. I would ask your vet to give him a thorough health check and take it from there :)
Four years old can therefore be really quite old and risky, or still just into middle aged!
 
Good to know about the price, thanks. I'll have a look at some of the nearby recommended vets and compare their prices.
Thank you both for your advice on my older piggy. Although I've looked after him as best I can I don't know anything about his history as he came from Pets at Home unfortunately. From what I've read this means hoping he'll reach 8 years may be optimistic :( also his "brother" (according to P@H, but they were obviously not related) died suddenly for no apparent reason at age 4.
Anyway I'll see what the vet thinks. Looking forward to getting at least one new lady pig though! 6 weeks after the op obviously ;)
Thanks again
 
In that case it may be risky, sadly. It would be nice to have an update on what your vet thinks. Hoping it all works out :) x
 
Hi, I had my piggie Ollie neutered 5 weeks ago and I paid £60 and have had free after care.

Good luck with what ever you decide to do
 
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