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I adopted two guinea pigs around 3 weeks ago, one two years old and the other around 6 months old. They started to fight about a week after I got them, so I separated them.. however one guinea pig got depressed on his own previously so I had to eventually put them back together. I took one to the vets a few days ago to get nails clipped and she realised there is cuts and scabs all over his back, where the other pig had became nippy. The guinea pig is now on medication and the vet told me neutering the both may solve the problem as they're most likely fighting over dominance, which would cost £110 to begin with and possibly more. The guinea pig who is on medication has now stopped eating, and they both seem really stressed. I want to know any other opinions on neutering, it's stressing me out that they're not getting on and I'm not really getting to enjoy them as such. Not a great start, as the pet shop had initially told me they got along very well. Does anyone have any opinions on what I should do? Appreciate it!
 
I'm assuming that they are both boars @Kate Graham ?

If that is the case then neutering will do absolutely nothing to affect the behaviour. It does have an impact in some animals but in guinea pigs it will not calm them down.

I unfortunately tried this many years ago, after it was suggested by my vet. The pigs continued to fight and one ended up with a horrible eye injury and had to have it removed. So, I'd put the poor mite through a completely unnecessary surgery.
 
I adopted two guinea pigs around 3 weeks ago, one two years old and the other around 6 months old. They started to fight about a week after I got them, so I separated them.. however one guinea pig got depressed on his own previously so I had to eventually put them back together. I took one to the vets a few days ago to get nails clipped and she realised there is cuts and scabs all over his back, where the other pig had became nippy. The guinea pig is now on medication and the vet told me neutering the both may solve the problem as they're most likely fighting over dominance, which would cost £110 to begin with and possibly more. The guinea pig who is on medication has now stopped eating, and they both seem really stressed. I want to know any other opinions on neutering, it's stressing me out that they're not getting on and I'm not really getting to enjoy them as such. Not a great start, as the pet shop had initially told me they got along very well. Does anyone have any opinions on what I should do? Appreciate it!

Hi and welcome!

Please start syringe feeding your boy asap and have him checked for abscesses from infected bites. Use mushed up pellets as an emergency; the guide tells you how to prep the syringe. Switch from weighing once weekly to weighing daily at the same time in the feeding cycle to keep a close eye on the food intake.
Complete Syringe Feeding Guide

Please note that unlike with rabbits where neutering for either gender is most strongly recommended, boar neutering does NOT change personality or any social behaviours, including dominance. All it does is take away the ability to make babies. I would also recommend to not use any vet for neutering that is obviously not piggy savvy. Nor trust any pet shop sales person for advice; they are notorious for the lack of basic knowledge! Places like our forum and resces are picking up the pieces all the time... :(

Unfortunately you have to accept that your boys do not get on and never will! Fights are inevitable if boars cannot get away from each other if they clash over dominance, especially during the teenage months.
The key to any successful boar bond (or at that, any piggy bond) is mutual liking and character compatibility. No amount of bonding tricks or neutering can change that. It is not the piggies' fault, but the humans'. Just sticking a baby with a single boar is not going to work out if said baby grows into a dominant youngster.

If you have to live with a room mate you do not get on with at all, no amount of outside behavioural or medical intervention is going to you make you like them, is it? Guinea pigs are social animals, but they also resemble humans very much when it comes to getting on with each other - every bit as complicated. Sadly it is a still far too common and constantly perpetuated misconception that guinea pigs are breathing, placid cuddly toys.

Please take the time to carefully read this guide here. It explains in great detail what has happened (and why), your various future options and it also gives you the necessary links to recommended good standard rescues and vets.
Boars: Bullying, Fighting, Fall-outs And What Next?

Since we have got members from all over the world, we find it very helpful if you please added your Uk county to your details, so we may be able to help you with specific recommendations, according to what is available where you are. Vet and rescue access can vary greatly, so will your individual options. Please click on your username at the top, then go to personal details and scroll down to location. That allows us to tailor any advice straight away instead of keeping it as general as possible. Thank you!
 
I'm assuming that they are both boars @Kate Graham ?

If that is the case then neutering will do absolutely nothing to affect the behaviour. It does have an impact in some animals but in guinea pigs it will not calm them down.

I unfortunately tried this many years ago, after it was suggested by my vet. The pigs continued to fight and one ended up with a horrible eye injury and had to have it removed. So, I'd put the poor mite through a completely unnecessary surgery.

Yes both are boys! Vet and also pet shop was very convinced that neutering had a high chance of solving the problem, but after reading a heap on here I have began to think otherwise. Really not sure on what I'm going to do, as one simply cannot be alone as he becomes depressed. The cage is currently divided into two parts ensuring that they're completely separated, i don't feel like paying £110 for both to get neutered if it isn't going to work. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I should do? Thanks
 
I have sows, but my impression from all the boar owners here is that neutering in guinea pigs does not really change aggression or behavior. It may have an impact on behavior in some species (it does in rabbits), which is what vets may be going off when they recommend it. But two males who don't like each other when they are intact are not likely to change their minds once they are neutered. Your options are to keep them separate with the barrier so they can interact through the bars without harming each other, trying to pair them up with other boars (though this results in two separate pairs of pigs) or neutering and trying them together, with the option to get them both girlfriends if the reintroduction goes badly (though this also leads to having two separate pairs, which probably isn't what you were hoping for.)

As to the one on antibiotics who is not eating, don't assume that this is simply depression- some antibiotics are very hard on a pig's gut and can result in them going off their food. You may want to try a probiotic to ease the gut disturbance and you may need to syringe food. Because guinea pigs are meant to be constant grazers, their digestive process can shut down when they are not eating regularly, which can be serious and even fatal. There is a syringe-feeding guide at the top of the page if he is not eating. If the refusal to eat started around the same time as antibiotics, it might be worth asking your vet to switch to a different brand, or to discontinue if they are merely preventative at this point (i.e. no active signs of infection, taking them 'just in case.')
 
Yes both are boys! Vet and also pet shop was very convinced that neutering had a high chance of solving the problem, but after reading a heap on here I have began to think otherwise. Really not sure on what I'm going to do, as one simply cannot be alone as he becomes depressed. The cage is currently divided into two parts ensuring that they're completely separated, i don't feel like paying £110 for both to get neutered if it isn't going to work. Does anyone have any suggestions on what I should do? Thanks

Please read my first post on this thread, @Kate Graham
 
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