New Friends Or Piggy Babies?

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Hello, I am new to the site and fairly new owner. Here's the story... I am 30 years old and owner of two wonderful little piggys under 1 year old. I have been reading about this lovely animal and made their lives as fulfilling as possible, which they have repaid by making a mess of my apartment with hay and poop and bedding, squeaking every time I walk by the refrigerator and taking long naps in my lap:D Recently my beloved dog of 13 years passed away, and without my boys I don't know how I would have dealt with the grief. This got me thinking, I would love for my piggys to one day have a herd/family. I am going to keep reading this forum, but my question for now is this: I have 2 not neutered brothers, should I neuter both and add male/female pigs? Or is it possible to neuter one and get a female, have babies and then neuter adults and babies? i hope this question is not too stupid but I really haven't been able to find a good answer.
Kindo
 
This forum is strictly non-breeding as there are far too many unwanted pigs and pregnancy & birth is very risky for Mum and babies.

If you want to expand your piggie family, you can castrate your boys but you will need to split them up, then they can have their own group of wives. Two boys with girls is asking for big problems. Or you can keep them together and get a separate group/pair.
 
Okay thank you. When I was a kid everyone i knew who had pigs just made babies, I did not know it was a bad thing... I really was going to make sure they got the veterinary care they needed and I would definitely have kept all the babies. But learned something new, and I am ashamed. Thanks anyway for the advise
 
No need to be ashamed. Knowledge and animal care practice changes and evolves with time. I kept pigs as a child and how we did it then (very much the norm at the time), I would never do now with the advances in knowledge and chance in animal husbandary practises.
 
Welcome to the forum! :D I'm glad you're loving being a piggy parent, they may be small but they really help us see the good in life don't they? :)

As said above pregnancy is super risky so I wouldn't advise it. Do your boys live together? Unfortunately you can't add to a pair of boys as they will fight, however if you wanted to expand to more pigs you could have them in a separate enclosure :)
 
Hello, I am new to the site and fairly new owner. Here's the story... I am 30 years old and owner of two wonderful little piggys under 1 year old. I have been reading about this lovely animal and made their lives as fulfilling as possible, which they have repaid by making a mess of my apartment with hay and poop and bedding, squeaking every time I walk by the refrigerator and taking long naps in my lap:D Recently my beloved dog of 13 years passed away, and without my boys I don't know how I would have dealt with the grief. This got me thinking, I would love for my piggys to one day have a herd/family. I am going to keep reading this forum, but my question for now is this: I have 2 not neutered brothers, should I neuter both and add male/female pigs? Or is it possible to neuter one and get a female, have babies and then neuter adults and babies? i hope this question is not too stupid but I really haven't been able to find a good answer.
Kindo

Hi and welcome

Please accept that we are a strictly non-breeding forum. The risk of any birth even with the best of care and under the best circumstances is around 20% to end up with the death of pups and/or mum. You are welcome to have a look in our pregnancy section, which deals strictly with unplanned births, to check just how much tragedy is happened in there in order to assure yourself that this is not an exaggeration. Breeding forums are even worse, only that most people don't care. :(
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It is a great wish for many owners to have a large herd and to merge all of their piggies into one big group, but unfortunately you cannot start one with two boars unless you can devote a whole room for a large bachelor herd; small boars groups are very unstable. Boars need space to get away from each other. Merging two sow groups also doesn't work unless the two top ladies can come to an agreement about which of them gives up her privileged position.
Adding More Guinea Pigs Or Merging Pairs – What Works And What Not?
Boars, sows or mixed pairs; babies or adults?

With a few exeptions to the contrary, in the vast majority of cases two boars in a group won't work. Neutering doesn't change boar behaviour; it only takes away the availability of making babies.
Please do not split up a working pair of boys just to fulfill your own human desires in the wake of your loss! If I were you, I would recommend to wait until your two boys have reached a hormonally more settled adulthood before making any further plans in case they have a fall-out.
Neutered / De-sexed Boars And Neutering Operations: Myths And Facts
Boars: Teenage, Bullying, Fighting, Fall-outs And What Next?

If you want to realise a larger herd, please start from scratch and build it up slowly around one dominant guinea pig, whether that is a neutered boar or a sow. Make sure that any further piggies you add are either submissive and/or have a group background, especially in smaller groups so you do not upset the existing hierarchy.
The best way of achieving that is by rescue dating, so you can make sure that your piggies get on before you bring them home. Sometimes rescues have a group of sows in and not rarely they have pregnant sows, so you can look to start with a readymade family, just without having to put piggies of your own deliberately at risk!
Here are links to good standard rescues we can guarantee you are in safe hands. There is no licensing or control in place in most countries, so anybody can call themselves a rescue or a breeder (and sometimes both). The results can be accordingly.
Guinea Pig Rescue Centre Locator (UK)
Guinea Lynx :: Rescue Organizations (several other countries)

I have had at one time a large group of up to 14 piggies (1 neutered boar and 13 sows), which I had carefully built up over the course of 4 years before it fell apart in the wake of a hostile takeover from a younger ambitious sow who dethroned my then aging First Lady, which led to period of constant upsets.
Groups a dynamic process; they evolve constantly and they can turn sour. Not every sow will necessarily fit in and not every 'husboar' will be accepted, as I know from my own experience!
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thanks you Guinea and Cavy, I've been super emotional... Yes the boys live together. My dog was very sick for a few days and i knew the cancer had come again. I sat with him until he drew his last breath an I thought I would never be okay again. Then I got home and the piggies squealed and popped and jumped out of the cage to eat and both fell asleep in my lap and I cried for hours and thought, I cant believe such a tiny creature can bring so much happiness:D They really are amazing:)
 
thanks you Guinea and Cavy, I've been super emotional... Yes the boys live together. My dog was very sick for a few days and i knew the cancer had come again. I sat with him until he drew his last breath an I thought I would never be okay again. Then I got home and the piggies squealed and popped and jumped out of the cage to eat and both fell asleep in my lap and I cried for hours and thought, I cant believe such a tiny creature can bring so much happiness:D They really are amazing:)

I'm so sorry to hear that, it's heartbreaking when you lose such a prominent family member whether they're hairy or no.

I swear piggies know when you're having a bad day and try and cheer you up. My babies always look after me, they know if I'm stressed or upset and make sure I'm happy again so I can bring them more veg :))
 
I’m glad you have your pigs to help you through loosing your dog.
I also lost my dog to cancer and I don’t know how I’d have coped without my other pets. Animals are great!
 
This is the first forum i ever visited and I was mortified when I realized I had said something inappropriate, but now I am happy for this support and understanding. Guineapigfeet, what breed dog did you have? And you and Cavy how many and what breed guinea pigs you have? And sorry for my poor english I am from Estonia. Where do you live?
 
This is the first forum i ever visited and I was mortified when I realized I had said something inappropriate, but now I am happy for this support and understanding. Guineapigfeet, what breed dog did you have? And you and Cavy how many and what breed guinea pigs you have? And sorry for my poor english I am from Estonia. Where do you live?

Welcome to the Forum.
I hope you will choose to stay and share more stories about your guinea pigs and life in Estonia.
Your English is wonderful (we have many foreign members and no one expects perfect English all of the time), and you have said nothing wrong.
Anyone who is open to new ideas has nothing to be worried or ashamed about.
I have learnt so much being part of this friendly Forum, and even after 2 years here i still pick up useful information and tips almost every day.

Like you I also envisioned a small herd.
I started with 1 boar and 2 sows, and it went well for a while.
We introduced a 3 sow which went well, but after the group of 4 lived together happily for almost a year, suddenly one day they had a huge falling out.
I did try to re bond them all over the coming months, but now they live very happily in 2 separate pairs.
It isn't what I envisioned, but it works and they are happy so I accept their choices.
So if you choose to get more piggies my top tip would be to accept that 'your plan' might not be 'their plan'!
 
This is the first forum i ever visited and I was mortified when I realized I had said something inappropriate, but now I am happy for this support and understanding. Guineapigfeet, what breed dog did you have? And you and Cavy how many and what breed guinea pigs you have? And sorry for my poor english I am from Estonia. Where do you live?
Your English is great!
He was (we think) a German Shepherd x Boxer x who-knows-what! We also owned his litter-sister who had more characteristics of German Shepherd x Husky x who-knows, and a Jack Russell, who is my brother’s and alive & kicking!
I had four pigs as a child, two shorthair, one Aby and one shorthair x something long haired. I now have the three in my picture, all sisters
 
This is the first forum i ever visited and I was mortified when I realized I had said something inappropriate, but now I am happy for this support and understanding. Guineapigfeet, what breed dog did you have? And you and Cavy how many and what breed guinea pigs you have? And sorry for my poor english I am from Estonia. Where do you live?
Oh wow I didn't realise, Estonia wow! Your English is fab, probably better than most English people I know :))

I've got 5 piggies, 1 neutered boy with 4 feisty wives haha. I have 2 smooth haired, 1 rex, 1 Abyssinian and 1 teddy :)

Have you got any pics of your piggies? We'd love to see them! :D
 
Hello and welcome. Please don’t be ashamed - we’re all still learning.
I cringe now at how we looked after our guinea pigs when I was a child but it was the best care and advice available then.
The guidance and advice on the forum will help you as it helps us all.

Please post pictures of your piggies and tell us their names. You can never have too many piggy pictures.
 
hello again:) I would love to post pictures but unfortunately I do not know how:D I have one of those old nokia button cellphones and am absolutely terrible with any kind of technology. But my boys are called Pikachu, named by the breeder but I thought it suited him as he has a really electric personality, always the first to explore everything new, popcorns a lot, likes to run around and not afraid of humans at all. He is mostly white with grey markings and silky hair. Then there's ErnieBernie, named by my husbands niece, who is mostly black and fluffy with coarse hair, and a white marking on his face like a horse. Ernie is mostly up to no good, eating newspaper and pooping on me, very hard to catch but very greedy for food and loves his pee stained tunnel so much I have to wash it quite often:D Also likes brushing and petting but its still hard to get him to relax close to humans.

So, spring is somewhere around a faraway corner:D I can't wait to let the piggies run around outside, but here's what I was wondering: What kind of things from nature do you give your guines? Like branches and types of grass and leaves and stuff that I will have to googletranslate cause I know none of them in english:D
Kindo
 
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