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OK long story/question here goes.

1) Mum has had the six yesterday I don't want to mess about with them so can't bring them in the warm yet or should I risk it?

2) When should I take out dad? How would it be best to introduce him to my other males?

3) Does it matter if the others are his brothers and father? Or is that a good thing?

4 I have a neutered male living with a un-neutered female can I introduce mum to them after I have rehomed the babies is it as problematic as introducing males?

Lots of questions I know but I don't like my piggies living alone.

Thank you. x
 
The only thing I know is dad should be out now! Mum can fall pregnant straight after giving birth!

Also where are they being kept?
 
Hi,

I am not the most knowledgeable so some one else might come along with better answers than me. I would bring mum and babies in to the warmth as soon as possible. I would most definitely take dad out if he is still mum.

Of the other two questions I am not sure
 
1) Mum has had the six yesterday I don't want to mess about with them so can't bring them in the warm yet or should I risk it?
I'd bring them in - it gets cold at night and they shouldn't be outside tbh.

2) When should I take out dad? How would it be best to introduce him to my other males?
Take him out straight away! He can impregnant straight away giving birth.

3) Does it matter if the others are his brothers and father? Or is that a good thing?
What do you mean? the adult boar? It doesn't matter if you put him in with his brothers and dad but you will need to introduce them again on neutral grounds.

4 I have a neutered male living with a un-neutered female can I introduce mum to them after I have rehomed the babies is it as problematic as introducing males?
You can introduce them - I know many people who have a neutered male with two sows - usually if she isn't impressed she will soon tell you within 30 mins or so usually.

If any of the puppies are males be sure to seperate them from the mother and if there are any sows within 3 weeks.
 
The only thing I know is dad should be out now! Mum can fall pregnant straight after giving birth!

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WSS poor mum can do without being bred again, really hope it hasn't happened already

Also it's been really cold this week at night, so I would get them in
 
Thank you all. I did phone the vet this morning but you only ever get to talk to receptionist and she said leave them out and Dad should OK with Mum and will support her?

Which is why I turn to you guys who have first hand knowledge for reassurance that I'm doing the right thing.

So if I move them inside now Mum won't kill them? Vet said she would! I just want to be sure.

Will check back for answers after the school run.

Thank you all. x
 
The only thing I know is dad should be out now! Mum can fall pregnant straight after giving birth!

Also where are they being kept?

They at the moment are in a hutch with carpet over the top and two blankets over that.

We took the frame of our trampoline and put tarp over the top to create a dome and have our hutches under there away from rain and wind.
 
WHAT? The receptionist told you leave the dad in with the mothers and babies? Lets hope the vets arent as ill-advised as to what she is!

Take the father out or he will impregnant her again!
 
In all probability mum will already be pregnant, but I would take dad out now, just in case there is a remote possibility that she is not. You will need to monitor her closely as a nursing/pregnant sow will need good care and nutrition. Back to back pregnancy can be quite dangerous for mum and produce pups that don't thrive.

If you can bring all inside, even if it is into a shed out of the worse of the weather, and keep covered also, it will be much better for them.

Not sure how many males you have to introduce dad to. Males can sometimes live in trios, but not often. Pairs are usually the norm. The usual rules of bonding will apply when you introduce them.

A sow can usually quite successfully be introduced to a N Boar/Sow pairing. However in this case as the mum is almost certainly pregnant, I would not do that. By the time you are considering this though, mum will probably be 42 - 44 days pregnant and with a gestation period of 65 - 72 days a pregnancy should be evident.
xx
 
Thank you all. I did phone the vet this morning but you only ever get to talk to receptionist and she said leave them out and Dad should OK with Mum and will support her?

Which is why I turn to you guys who have first hand knowledge for reassurance that I'm doing the right thing.

So if I move them inside now Mum won't kill them? Vet said she would! I just want to be sure.

Will check back for answers after the school run.

Thank you all. x

Phew - good job you checked here first!

Dad really should be separated from mum asap. It will be perfectly safe to move mum and the babies inside - where they got the idea that mum would kill the babies from I have no clue! If you have a quiet, cooler room to put them in first it will be less of a dramatic change for mum.

Now 6 babies is a lot for her to deal with, if you could weigh each one to check their weights that would be a good place to start. You can safely handle the babies so don't worry about that.

Weights between 70-100g are fine, 60-70g should be ok but may need a bit of one on one time with mum now and then to ensure they are getting a good feed. Below 60g may need a bit of supplementing, dry out some wholemeal bread and soak with full fat goat's milk and the babies should learn to suck up the milk.

Mum will require a good supply of fresh greens and alfalfa hay to help produce enough milk for all those babies, as well as a boost in her vit C veg too.

HTH

Suzy
 
Please move them into the coldest room in your house first if they come from straight outside and then slowly get them to their final destination. Temperature jumps that are too large and sudden can kill! However, in this cold weather, the pups and mum should be in the warmth and not go outside again until the spring.

A sow comes into season within hours of giving birth. You will have to assume that she is pregnant again and you will have to really take good care of her as back-to-back prenancies are very hard on sows, especially if they come on top of a large litter! The chances that things go wrong for her and a second litter are much higher.

You will also have to separate any baby boars at three weeks old or about 8 1/2 ounces of weight to avoid brother/sister pregnancies. The earliest documented sibling pregnancy is 24 days.

You can handle the pups from day one. They should be active from the beginning and have their eyes open. it is important that you weigh them. The ideal weight is 70-100g, although it is often lower in bigger litters. Pups under 50g and in large litters need extra feed. Most rescues on here put in a plate with wholemeal breadcubes soaked in full fat goats milk. Alternatively, mushed good quality hay based guinea pig pellets will do. Any pups under 50g will need hand feeding, little but often as much around the day as you can provide. Please weigh mum and pups daily during the nursing period to make sure that all are thriving.

Mum will still need double the amount of vitamin C and extra calcium for the pups' bones, ideally in form of veg like peppers and broccoli and alfalfa hay.

Here are links to the best medical website for guinea pigs for more information. You can safely assume that the vet's receptionist has no idea of guinea pigs!

http://www.guinealynx.info/reproduction.html, also links faq and labor
http://www.guinealynx.info/handfeeding.html#pups
http://www.cavyspirit.com/sexing.htm

Unless you have a minimum of 1 square metre per boar , I would not try and reintroduce daddy with another stable boar group. He will not like being demoted to bachelor status and you can well end with a lot of single boars that won't tolerate each other if things go really haywire!

There is a very good chance that with six pups, you have got some baby boars. They can move in with their daddy after three weeks and one can stay on as his companion.

If you need help with rehoming all your babies to good and home checked homes, we are willing to put you in contact with a reputable rescue.
 
Please move them into the coldest room in your house first if they come from straight outside and then slowly get them to their final destination. Temperature jumps that are too large and sudden can kill! However, in this cold weather, the pups and mum should be in the warmth and not go outside again until the spring.

A sow comes into season within hours of giving birth. You will have to assume that she is pregnant again and you will have to really take good care of her as back-to-back prenancies are very hard on sows, especially if they come on top of a large litter! The chances that things go wrong for her and a second litter are much higher.

You will also have to separate any baby boars at three weeks old or about 8 1/2 ounces of weight to avoid brother/sister pregnancies. The earliest documented sibling pregnancy is 24 days.

You can handle the pups from day one. They should be active from the beginning and have their eyes open. it is important that you weigh them. The ideal weight is 70-100g, although it is often lower in bigger litters. Pups under 50g and in large litters need extra feed. Most rescues on here put in a plate with wholemeal breadcubes soaked in full fat goats milk. Alternatively, mushed good quality hay based guinea pig pellets will do. Any pups under 50g will need hand feeding, little but often as much around the day as you can provide. Please weigh mum and pups daily during the nursing period to make sure that all are thriving.

Mum will still need double the amount of vitamin C and extra calcium for the pups' bones, ideally in form of veg like peppers and broccoli and alfalfa hay.

Here are links to the best medical website for guinea pigs for more information. You can safely assume that the vet's receptionist has no idea of guinea pigs!

http://www.guinealynx.info/reproduction.html, also links faq and labor
http://www.guinealynx.info/handfeeding.html#pups
http://www.cavyspirit.com/sexing.htm

Unless you have a minimum of 1 square metre per boar , I would not try and reintroduce daddy with another stable boar group. He will not like being demoted to bachelor status and you can well end with a lot of single boars that won't tolerate each other if things go really haywire!

There is a very good chance that with six pups, you have got some baby boars. They can move in with their daddy after three weeks and one can stay on as his companion.

If you need help with rehoming all your babies to good and home checked homes, we are willing to put you in contact with a reputable rescue.

Thank you so much for the advice. Do you know of any GP savy vets in the Dorset area as this is the 3rd time I have had bad advice from a vet. I guessed this one was not clued up enough when she told me to home them when they opened their eyes and stated to move about.
 
Sorry, it is not easy to find a good, piggy savvy vet. Exotics vets have covered small animals in their curriculum (for general vets rodents, including piggies, only get less than minimal coverage, so they are generally a better bet.

Here is a list of rescues in your county. Perhaps they have recommendations or can at least say which vet they use? It is very gutting if you ask for advice and then end up with exactly the kind of mess you had wanted to avoid in the first place!
 
I will be at the vets tomorrow so I am going to ask about having dad neutered so that he can live with mum when the babies are gone. I think that would be a good solution.
 
How r mum and babies doing?

Out of interest are you going to the same vet that gave the awful advice?
 
How r mum and babies doing?

Out of interest are you going to the same vet that gave the awful advice?

She is OK they are all inside now dad in his own cage and mum and babies in another.

No I am going to my rabbit savy vet for one of my buns to have her VHD.

Thank you for all the help and advice I will take some photos in a couple of days.
 
Make sure that you find a good vet for the neutering - it really makes a big difference!
 
Make sure that you find a good vet for the neutering - it really makes a big difference!

I will contact the local rescues and get their opinion on who is the best locally I never realised how good veterinary practice could vary.
 
Hi there, Sorry you've had such awful advice from the vets. I'm assuming this girl has had pups before as usually a first litter is 2-3 babies. Poor thing :(
I used to live in Dorset and MGFT is a great sanctuary but deals with all types of animals and I didn't get the impression that they knew much about pigs when I adopted Snowy from them. There's a rescue in Bournemouth that you could get in touch with http://www.theguineapigranch.co.uk/ they may know a good vets to go to.
Good idea to get dad neutered. Hope it all goes well. Please keep a hawk eye on all the babies and expecially on mum. Give her as much love, food and attention you can x
 
This is a recommend vet in the area.

SPRING CORNER VETERINARY CENTRE
4 KNYVETON RD
BH1 3QN BOURNEMOUTH , DORSET

Phone: 01202 555770

I would advise contacting the guinea pig ranch as Piggiepal suggested - for good advice on housing, sexing and poss rehoming.

Please keep us updated and pics too if you can - we all love to see mini pigs!

Suzy x
 
hi i was wondering which vet you use, i also live in Poole Dorset... x

Hi Julie I use different vets for different animals to be honest, tomorrow I am at Spring Corner with my buns. I haven't know them that long just a few months as I am new to buns but they do a great job with them so I am going to sound them out on my piggies. The other vets I have contacted are the one I use for my cats and the one I use and another I used to use for my dog.

Hope that makes sense. Will let you all know how I get on.
 
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