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Hi everyone,

I'm brand new member - first post! Just wanted to say hello.

We are currently researching getting a couple of guinea pigs. Researching one stage at a time. I've look at behavior, health etc so far and now looking at a new penthouse for them! hehe! ;)

I'm sure you all see this often but I'm a bit stuck.

I've been looking at reviews for the last couple of days and I think this one is a good one from what I have read but not sure what version?

http://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/small_pets/hutches_cages/rabbit_cage/120_cm_cages/95868

or

http://www.zooplus.co.uk/shop/small_pets/hutches_cages/rabbit_cage/120_cm_cages/14083

Would you agree with this cage and what one is the best with regards to the upper level being in one etc?

What type of things should I buy to go in it? Tunnels/toys/treats?

Is the hay rack ok? While looking at reviews I have seen some comments about haynets not being liked by some.

My next part of research will be on bedding and food. Any advice in this area greatly received!

Looking forward to chatting with you all!

LJ :)
 
hello and welcome :)

you really need a muuuuch bigger cage than that! i went with one that size at first, and i quickly learned that it was much to small. C&C cages are the most recomended, because you can expand them, and you can put up a barrior if necessary. you can look at the housing section for examples, or go here for a good website that explains better than i can about the importance of lots of room: guineapigcages.com

you should definitely buy a hidey house for them, the "pigloos" seem pretty popular (they are with my pigs!) because it makes them feel safe. you can buy toys, just make sure they're safe (my brilliant boy roger got his head stuck in a chew log thing, which resulted in a very stressful morning!) but it also seems like cheap things like brown paper bags or kleenex boxes seems more fun to them.

make sure you get a good pellet that is made of timothy hay and has a stabilized source of vitamin C, pigs cant make or store their own. commercial treats are not as good for them, but fresh vegetables (and occasionally fruits) make wonderful treats. Their diet should be 80% hay, alfalfa for young pigs, otherwise go with timothy hay. the rest can consist of veggies and fruits.

the most popular commercial bedding is something like carefresh, wood chips are a no-no because they can cause lung problems. i use towels and newspaper, they seem to like it better, and other people use fleece (better for urine absorption). good website for the care of guinea pigs is guinealynx.com

hope i helped :)
 
120cm is perfectly fine for two guinea pigs but if you wanted more you'd need a bigger cage.

http://www.guineapigcages.com/
See here for cage recommendations

Guinea pigs love places to hide so plenty of hiding spots - you can use tunnels, cardboard boxes, plastic pigloos etc

I prefer hayracks as mine just tend to urinate on the hay and waste alot so both my cages have hayracks and they love using them and it helps keep their cage looking cleaner.

Bedding wise avoid sawdust and shavings as they can be quite dusty. Some people use just newspaper and loads of hay and thats perfectly fine but you would need to clean them out more often. I use a bedding called Megazorb which is very absorbant and dust free. You can also use bedding such as auboise or even fleece!

Guinea pigs cannot manufacture Vitamin C so its vital they get it or they can develop scurvy.
Vitamin C is found in fruit and veg and guinea pigs love things such as carrot, cucumber, peppers, coriander, romaine lettuce, celery, plum etc

http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=30297
See here for advice on the low to high calcium rates in foods

Commercial feed wise, there are loads. Gerty guinea pig, wagg crunch etc as make them selective but I have mine on gerty and they eat it all. You can also get your pellet feeds such as science selective and excel.
 
I believe the OP is in the UK, and the grids to make C&C cages can be quite difficult to get hold of here. A lot of us have to use commercial cages because of this.
The two mentioned are suitable for two piggies, and comply with the RSPCA guidelines.
 
Hi Lauz, and welcome!

Good on you for researching before getting any piggies.
When it comes to piggies and space, bigger is better, so I would advise you to get the biggest cage you can afford and find the space for.
Does not matter if its handmade, C&C grids or a commercial cage.

I have the second cage you are interested (1.2m x 50cm) in for my 2 boys and they are happy in there. If I had the space, I would go bigger and maybe build a custom made cage to fit in the lounge, but the one we have is good.
I have however noticed that they get frustrated if they do not get floor time and are cooped up in there for long periods of time.

Hope that helps
 
I have to say i love my c and c trying to find the cubes although hard work was deffo worth it. If you wanted c and c you could try wicks I know they say out of stock on there home page but i called and they had 1 packet. Nettos was selliing them really cheap. My girls and I love my c and c.
 
hiya, welcome to the forum! :) Well done on researching first. :) As long as you have a 4ft x 2ft cage, it will be fine for a pair of piggies. :(|) Don't forget about a pen or run as well. Piggies need floor time. :)
 
Hi Lauz and welcome!

I hope that you will enjoy the forum, not just the information, but the community as well.

I have the second cage as well (the first one is a new model); I needed it when I rehomed two of my girls from the RSPCA two years ago. I would say that a 2x4 ft cage is adequate, but once you have seen how growing piggies dash around, you will soon find that it is no more than that.

If you want to go for boars, I would recommend looking at a 150x60 cm (2x5 ft) cage, especially if you are looking for subadult youngsters - they need all the space they can get.

I know that C&C grids are currently not easy to come by, but if you can, having a grid cage would allow you a lot more freedom in the construction.

PS: Please consider rehoming from a reputable rescue. They know their piggies' characters and will only rehome well bonded, handled, guaranteed healthy and not pregnant piggies and will support you during the settling in period. If you look through our illness, pregnancy and behaviour sections, you will see how often people who bought piggies from shops or breeders end up with problems! As sadly many sows that come into rescues are pregnant or come with babies, there are usually young piggies available as well.
 
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piglet_and_rogers_mama said:
hello and welcome

you really need a muuuuch bigger cage than that! i went with one that size at first, and i quickly learned that it was much to small. C&C cages are the most recomended, because you can expand them, and you can put up a barrior if necessary. you can look at the housing section for examples, or go here for a good website that explains better than i can about the importance of lots of room: guineapigcages.com

you should definitely buy a hidey house for them, the "pigloos" seem pretty popular (they are with my pigs!) because it makes them feel safe. you can buy toys, just make sure they're safe (my brilliant boy roger got his head stuck in a chew log thing, which resulted in a very stressful morning!) but it also seems like cheap things like brown paper bags or kleenex boxes seems more fun to them.

make sure you get a good pellet that is made of timothy hay and has a stabilized source of vitamin C, pigs cant make or store their own. commercial treats are not as good for them, but fresh vegetables (and occasionally fruits) make wonderful treats. Their diet should be 80% hay, alfalfa for young pigs, otherwise go with timothy hay. the rest can consist of veggies and fruits.

the most popular commercial bedding is something like carefresh, wood chips are a no-no because they can cause lung problems. i use towels and newspaper, they seem to like it better, and other people use fleece (better for urine absorption). good website for the care of guinea pigs is guinealynx.com

hope i helped :)
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Thank you for the great reply. I had a look at the C&C cages but as I am in the UK it's quite hard to get the stuff here for them. I'm actually in Scotland and have no Wickes - only B&Q and I have been checking stock for a while at 4 local stores and no sign of the grids for a while so that's why I looked at the already made cages. I will keep checking though even when I have a cage as it will be my goal to get them into one.

I had a look at the pigloos - they look really good - I will make sure to get a couple of them thanks! By chew log do you mean this?

http://www.petsathome.com/shop/large-chube-with-bedding-by-critters-choice-15878

I've seen some pics of some hiding in paper bags - cute!

With regards to food then a bowl (or two?) a day of pellets and a bowl (or two?) a day of veg with a little fruit is what I should be feeding them? Along with a handful or so of timothy (or alfalfa if babies) each day? Plenty of fresh water too. Is feeding them from the same bowls ok? I mean will they share ok or is that just Dependant on their personalities?

I've read about the dust being bad for their lungs. I seen megazorb but not sure if there's anywhere local selling that - I will have a look. I've seen people say megazorb and hay - do they mean timothy hay in with the bedding or another hay for bedding? What do you have to put in their hidey places or just leave that clear?

Sorry for the loads of questions again!

Hanwombat said:
120cm is perfectly fine for two guinea pigs but if you wanted more you'd need a bigger cage.

http://www.guineapigcages.com/
See here for cage recommendations

Guinea pigs love places to hide so plenty of hiding spots - you can use tunnels, cardboard boxes, plastic pigloos etc

I prefer hayracks as mine just tend to urinate on the hay and waste alot so both my cages have hayracks and they love using them and it helps keep their cage looking cleaner.

Bedding wise avoid sawdust and shavings as they can be quite dusty. Some people use just newspaper and loads of hay and thats perfectly fine but you would need to clean them out more often. I use a bedding called Megazorb which is very absorbant and dust free. You can also use bedding such as auboise or even fleece!

Guinea pigs cannot manufacture Vitamin C so its vital they get it or they can develop scurvy.
Vitamin C is found in fruit and veg and guinea pigs love things such as carrot, cucumber, peppers, coriander, romaine lettuce, celery, plum etc

http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=30297
See here for advice on the low to high calcium rates in foods

Commercial feed wise, there are loads. Gerty guinea pig, wagg crunch etc as make them selective but I have mine on gerty and they eat it all. You can also get your pellet feeds such as science selective and excel.
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Thank you for replying! Lots of info!

It would only be the two yes that we get. (for now!)

The pigloos look good - going to definitely get a couple of them.

Ah thanks for letting me know about the hayracks. I think I will keep it in and let them try it out and just see if they are ok with it then.

I like the idea of the megazorb but not sure if I can get it around here - I'm going to have to have a look about and see. Where do you find yours? Is it just enough to cover the bottom I need or a thick layer etc?

Thanks for that link for the foods - I will go and check that out!

Bailey said:
I believe the OP is in the UK, and the grids to make C&C cages can be quite difficult to get hold of here. A lot of us have to use commercial cages because of this.
The two mentioned are suitable for two piggies, and comply with the RSPCA guidelines.
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Yeah I'm in the UK - Scotland. I've been looking for the grids at our B&Q's but never in stock. I will keep looking though even after I get cage as I may get lucky with it.

Thank you for your reply! Good to know they comply with the RSPCA guidelines.

squeeksmom said:
Hi Lauz, and welcome!

Good on you for researching before getting any piggies.
When it comes to piggies and space, bigger is better, so I would advise you to get the biggest cage you can afford and find the space for.
Does not matter if its handmade, C&C grids or a commercial cage.

I have the second cage you are interested (1.2m x 50cm) in for my 2 boys and they are happy in there. If I had the space, I would go bigger and maybe build a custom made cage to fit in the lounge, but the one we have is good.
I have however noticed that they get frustrated if they do not get floor time and are cooped up in there for long periods of time.

Hope that helps
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Aw thank you!

I can get the first cage on zooplus for about £45. The other one is a bit more. The next size up - the 140 - is a huge jump in price and a bit more than I was expecting to pay. I think I will go with the 120 (first one) and aim for the C&C or if I still have no luck then the 140.

I will be getting a little run for some floor time for them too. I've got a space lined up for that. Thanks.

Thank you for your reply!

eva said:
I have to say i love my c and c trying to find the cubes although hard work was deffo worth it. If you wanted c and c you could try wicks I know they say out of stock on there home page but i called and they had 1 packet. Nettos was selliing them really cheap. My girls and I love my c and c.
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Thank you for replying.

I've been having trouble getting the grids in stock at several B&Q's but I'm going to keep trying. Just don't know how long I would have to wait really so going to get a ready made cage in the meantime and keep checking B&Q.

I'd never heard of NETTO'S - just checked online and the nearest one to me is Carlisle - 93 miles away! hehe! Thank you though for letting me know! :)

Fudge and Rainbow :) said:
hiya, welcome to the forum! :) Well done on researching first. As long as you have a 4ft x 2ft cage, it will be fine for a pair of piggies. :(|) Don't forget about a pen or run as well. Piggies need floor time. :)
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Thank you!

I'm going to get a little run too - already got a space lined up for that too.

Thanks for the reply!
 
Megazorb I ordered online from www.farmway.co.uk
7 pounds a bag but p&p added also - delivery is quite quick!

I just put down a thick layer of newspaper and a thin layer of megazorb :)
 
Food:
- unlimited hay (up to 80% of the daily food intake); personally, I vary between timothy and others, so there are no problems when you can get hold of new hay or the quality is suddenly not good/musty.
-50g/1 cupful of mixed veg per piggy per day. Make sure to include at least one high vitamin C veg, like a slice of pepper of any colour, a bit of broccoli or parsley. Here is a list of what veg they can eat:
http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=42
-good quality hay based pellets: bowl topped up for growing youngsters until they have most of their weight between 6-9 months old, then reduce slowly to the handful/ 1/2 handful they need as mature adults.
- fresh water daily

In terms of toys, I have found that hay stuffed toilet rolls, cardboard huts paper bags with a treat inside generally provide much more fun than expensive toys which usually end up forgotten in a corner. Here is a thread with ideas: http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=43520

You may also find this thread of Laura's helpful in what to consider when getting piggies: http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=36801
 
Wiebke said:
Hi Lauz and welcome!

I hope that you will enjoy the forum, not just the information, but the community as well.

I have the second cage as well (the first one is a new model); I needed it when I rehomed two of my girls from the RSPCA two years ago. I would say that a 2x4 ft cage is adequate, but once you have seen how growing piggies dash around, you will soon find that it is no more than that.

If you want to go for boars, I would recommend looking at a 150x60 cm (2x5 ft) cage, especially if you are looking for subadult youngsters - they need all the space they can get.

I know that C&C grids are currently not easy to come by, but if you can, having a grid cage would allow you a lot more freedom in the construction.

PS: Please consider rehoming from a reputable rescue. They know their piggies' characters and will only rehome well bonded, handled, guaranteed healthy and not pregnant piggies and will support you during the settling in period. If you look through our illness, pregnancy and behaviour sections, you will see how often people who bought piggies from shops or breeders end up with problems! As sadly many sows that come into rescues are pregnant or come with babies, there are usually young piggies available as well.
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Thank you! I'm really pleased with the lovely replies I've had!

I think the plan is to go for two girls. It may not work out that way but it will e a same sex pair that we get. Useful to know that for boars perhaps more space is better. Thank you.

Having issues getting grids as I found out that was the best way to go but I will keep trying B&Q and hope they get some in at some point!

Do you know of any rescue places north of the border? Glasgow area?

Thank you fr replying!
 
Hanwombat said:
Megazorb I ordered online from www.farmway.co.uk
7 pounds a bag but p&p added also - delivery is quite quick!

I just put down a thick layer of newspaper and a thin layer of megazorb :)
Click to expand...

Thank you for that link. If I can't find it locally I will try there. How long do you think a bag will last two piggies? Just so I know I have enough to last a while and not having to order and wait all the time.
 
Wiebke said:
Food:
- unlimited hay (up to 80% of the daily food intake); personally, I vary between timothy and others, so there are no problems when you can get hold of new hay or the quality is suddenly not good/musty.
-50g/1 cupful of mixed veg per piggy per day. Make sure to include at least one high vitamin C veg, like a slice of pepper of any colour, a bit of broccoli or parsley. Here is a list of what veg they can eat:
http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=42
-good quality hay based pellets: bowl topped up for growing youngsters until they have most of their weight between 6-9 months old, then reduce slowly to the handful/ 1/2 handful they need as mature adults.
- fresh water daily

In terms of toys, I have found that hay stuffed toilet rolls, cardboard huts paper bags with a treat inside generally provide much more fun than expensive toys which usually end up forgotten in a corner. Here is a thread with ideas: http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=43520

You may also find this thread of Laura's helpful in what to consider when getting piggies: http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=36801
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Thanks for that!

I will have a look at those links. When you say 1/2 handfuls of pellets is that per piggie also?
 
Lauz_1982 said:
Thanks for that!

I will have a look at those links. When you say 1/2 handfuls of pellets is that per piggie also?
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Yes, that is also per piggy per day. I give mine about 3/4 of a handful, divided over two meals, but I am sure that you will figure out the amount they are eating - give a bit less whenever there are stale leftovers.

I would urge you to keep an open mind in terms of sex and rather go for the piggies that speak to your heart. Don't overlook the rarer sow/neutered boar combination; it's the most stable bonding of all once a boar has been initially accepted.

I can most warmly recommend this rescue here. They are located in Gretna, but have a fosterer in Glasgow and can shift any piggies of theirs up there. Five of my current Tribe have been rehomed from Becklen.
http://www.becklenguineapigrescue.co.uk/

Amongst others, they have this pair of absolutely gorgeous cuddly boys looking for a home right now (I so wish I had space for these two boars myself!): http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=65435
 
Lauz_1982 said:
Thank you for that link. If I can't find it locally I will try there. How long do you think a bag will last two piggies? Just so I know I have enough to last a while and not having to order and wait all the time.
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Ermm I have 3 guinea pigs and a bag lasts about 3 weeks or so :)
 
Just to let you know, that although your B&Q dont have the cubes on the shelf, if you take the item number in, they will happily order them in for you. http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.j...ubes&fh_eds=ß&fh_refview=search&isSearch=true
The more people that do this, I think B&Q will recognise a need to keep them in stock :)

Just to add how important hay is to Guinea pigs - a 24/7 supply is vital.
I have found that piggies take immense joy in burying and playing around in it and its lovely to watch. I Use cardboard boxes or litter trays lined with newspaper, so it can be quickly changed each day. I think its well worth that to watch popcorning piggies getting excited about their hay boxes.
I have found a local farm that sells absolutley gorgeous green fresh smelling hay at only £3.50 a bale, it took me a year to find them and they are only up the road! Well worth looking round if you have room to store it.

:)p
 
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Seville-Class...825fe66f12e0a0aa17e13971ffc29192#ht_500wt_905

There's an ebay link for a cube supplier in Scotland expecting stock in August. I know its a way off but if you are just researching at the moment you could wait? The cages you have linked to are great and I had a store bought cage to start with but then I got tempted by the c&c and never looked back! The correx is a lot easier to get hold of than the cubes. I have also read on here if you go into B&Q with the item number for their cubes they may be able to order them in for you.
Welcome to the forum, it's a great place, so many friendly and helpful people! It's great that you're researching first, I'm still learning new things all the time about my piggies! xox
 
Just to add it may be worth looking into a 2 storey cage (100cm or 120cm)and adding carpet and sides to the ramp. they did have them on offer in ZOOPLUS a few weeks back so might be worth a though. they are a little more but you get heaps more space and the piggies can completlely get away from each other if they are hormonal boys and if they should fall out (hopefully they wont) you could block of the ramp and they have a house each :)
 
Cgilchrist said:
Just to add it may be worth looking into a 2 storey cage (100cm or 120cm)and adding carpet and sides to the ramp. they did have them on offer in ZOOPLUS a few weeks back so might be worth a though. they are a little more but you get heaps more space and the piggies can completlely get away from each other if they are hormonal boys and if they should fall out (hopefully they wont) you could block of the ramp and they have a house each :)
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Take it back they are not on offer anymore!
 
Wiebke said:
Yes, that is also per piggy per day. I give mine about 3/4 of a handful, divided over two meals, but I am sure that you will figure out the amount they are eating - give a bit less whenever there are stale leftovers.

I would urge you to keep an open mind in terms of sex and rather go for the piggies that speak to your heart. Don't overlook the rarer sow/neutered boar combination; it's the most stable bonding of all once a boar has been initially accepted.

I can most warmly recommend this rescue here. They are located in Gretna, but have a fosterer in Glasgow and can shift any piggies of theirs up there. Five of my current Tribe have been rehomed from Becklen.
http://www.becklenguineapigrescue.co.uk/

Amongst others, they have this pair of absolutely gorgeous cuddly boys looking for a home right now (I so wish I had space for these two boars myself!): http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=65435
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Ok thanks.

If they are already a pair of a different sex then I would consider if they were already bonded/neutered etc. I'm not interested at all in breeding so wouldn't be looking down that route.

I had a look at that page and the link. I will send them an e-mail and see what criteria they are looking for a perspective owner to meet. They are a lovely pair aren't they? So cute! x)

Thank you! :)
 
Bailey said:
My local horse feed supplier sell Megazorb so it's always worth checking with them first if you have any locally :)
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There's a few of those around here too so I will look into that as well. Thanks for the tip! :)
 
Salt n Peppers mum said:
Just to let you know, that although your B&Q dont have the cubes on the shelf, if you take the item number in, they will happily order them in for you. http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.j...ubes&fh_eds=ß&fh_refview=search&isSearch=true
The more people that do this, I think B&Q will recognise a need to keep them in stock :)

Just to add how important hay is to Guinea pigs - a 24/7 supply is vital.
I have found that piggies take immense joy in burying and playing around in it and its lovely to watch. I Use cardboard boxes or litter trays lined with newspaper, so it can be quickly changed each day. I think its well worth that to watch popcorning piggies getting excited about their hay boxes.
I have found a local farm that sells absolutley gorgeous green fresh smelling hay at only £3.50 a bale, it took me a year to find them and they are only up the road! Well worth looking round if you have room to store it.

:)p
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Ooooft not one of them told me they would be able to do that and I've phoned each one a few times at least! Great customer service! lol! I will deliberately ask about that now - Thanks!

I kept seeing 'popcorning' written about piggies and decided to have a look as some videos on you tube - so cute! I want mine to be that happy they do it! Fingers crossed!

I know quite a few horse owners so might ask them to have a word with their suppliers and see if I can get some fresh green hay too anywhere. In the mean time Tomothy hay (or alfalfa for the babies) will be on my list!
 
carrot_and_parsnip said:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Seville-Class...825fe66f12e0a0aa17e13971ffc29192#ht_500wt_905

There's an ebay link for a cube supplier in Scotland expecting stock in August. I know its a way off but if you are just researching at the moment you could wait? The cages you have linked to are great and I had a store bought cage to start with but then I got tempted by the c&c and never looked back! The correx is a lot easier to get hold of than the cubes. I have also read on here if you go into B&Q with the item number for their cubes they may be able to order them in for you.
Welcome to the forum, it's a great place, so many friendly and helpful people! It's great that you're researching first, I'm still learning new things all the time about my piggies! xox
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Hiya, thanks for that link. I'm going to try B&Q again and ask them to order it and if no luck keep looking but that website is saved in my favorites now just in case I have no luck.

Thank you!
 
Cgilchrist said:
Just to add it may be worth looking into a 2 storey cage (100cm or 120cm)and adding carpet and sides to the ramp. they did have them on offer in ZOOPLUS a few weeks back so might be worth a though. they are a little more but you get heaps more space and the piggies can completlely get away from each other if they are hormonal boys and if they should fall out (hopefully they wont) you could block of the ramp and they have a house each :)
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Cgilchrist said:
Take it back they are not on offer anymore!
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That's a good idea to double up but keep the cage big - I did look at a few but they seemed smaller to compensate for the extra level which seems silly!

I'd read also that they aren't that keen on climbing - is that right? Would they maybe not care for a second level? Is that why I would add carpet and sides on? To make it better for them? Would I have to make sure the ladders aren't too steep even with carpet etc on them?

Thanks!
 
HI and welcome to the forum :)
We have a few members from up your way :)
I have a ramp in my girls cage, it's approx. 2' x 6' with a 2' x 2' mezzanine floor, the ramp isn't too steep, i have carpet on it and my hubby put a side on it (otherside against wall of their house). THey literally roar up and down it, they love it! To get them used to it you show them and then encourage with some of their fav treaties.....this you will learn once you have your piggies, they'll soon teach you what they like :))


http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=53210

Have a peek here and you'll see some cages and what people have done :)

Glynis, Velvet and Onyx x
 
Lauz_1982 said:
That's a good idea to double up but keep the cage big - I did look at a few but they seemed smaller to compensate for the extra level which seems silly!

I'd read also that they aren't that keen on climbing - is that right? Would they maybe not care for a second level? Is that why I would add carpet and sides on? To make it better for them? Would I have to make sure the ladders aren't too steep even with carpet etc on them?

Thanks!
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yeah if you put sides it encourages them to use it the feel more secure. i have a pair of boys in one and they are always up adn down and also get out of eachothers way sometimes. When we had a single 120cm cage one was always sitting on the platform. now they haev 2 storeys they are together more often i think because is they get fed up with each other they can get totally out of each others way so are actually getting on a lot better. also Marmalade is getting out of his hormones i think now :)
 
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