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New Member with bumblefoot piggy

Ladyp2806

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Hi Everyone 👋🏻. My daughters have adopted 2 gorgeous Guinea Pigs. They are both 2 years old and have not had the best start in life 😢
First we have Sputnik, he loves the sound of his own Squeak 😂 and has a magnificent tri-colour coat that has a life of its own. Then there is Apollo, he is super chilled, loves his cuddles and has a silky black and white coat.
We discovered that Sputnik has “Bumble-foot”, so any advice would be fantastic.
 
Hello welcome to the forum :)

Be lovely to see some photos of your piggies! Please feel free to start a thread about bumble foot and its care in the health and illness part of the forum. You will get plenty of advice for sure.

Welcome again
 
Hi and welcome

Could you please add a picture so we can see just how bad it is?

Please see a vet for bumblefoot (pododermatitis). Treatment often starts with an antibiotic xombined with some topical treatment.
Here is our list of recommended vets; I hope that you have one of them within your reach! Recommended Guinea Pig Vets

Depending on the severity, treatment can vary; it often depends on what the infection responds to. There is no definite treatment as it depends on what bug has been causing the infection.
Guinea Lynx :: Pododermatitis

In severe cases, bandaging in order to take the pressure off the pad can also be applied by a vet; the front feet are the weight bearing ones and therefore typically the ones a greater risk of bumblefoot.

I am tagging in some other experienced members and rescue fosterers with more practical experiences for you.
@Jaycey @helen105281 @furryfriends (TEAS) @Abi_nurse @VickiA @pig in the city

PS: I am moving your thread to our specially monitored Health/Illness section for you as your main issue is the bumblefoot.


Here is our information collection for new owners in which we have tried to address all the areas we get the most questions and concerns about from settling in and making friends with your piggies (including a spot of piggy whispering), housing, diet and care, safe and unsafe enrichment, as well as behaviour, advice on illness and vet care. I hope that you will find the practical tips and information via this link here helpful: Getting Started - New Owners' Most Helpful Guides
 
Definitely get a guinea pig savvy vet to take a look and advise. Please don't bandage the foot, as you need to be very careful not to bandage too tightly. I recently heard of a piggy losing their foot due to a too tight bandage being applied by a non guinea pig savvy vet.

Here at TEAS we have treated bumble foot very successfully using the antibiotic Zithromax (azithromycin). It takes a while, but we got a good result.
 
I have found daily soaks in dilute hibiscrub very helpful followed by application of foot ointment from gorgeous guineas
Ointments
In more severe cases with ulceration then antibiotics and anti inflammatories may be required.
Avoid drying bedding such as wood shavings
 
We noticed it within a couple of weeks and took him to the vet immediately. They have said it isn’t a severe case but they gave us some medicine, told us to drop his weight by 100g and too keep the cage dry and not to use a wire floor (which we never have). The main problem we are having is stopping the daft water bottle dripping! 114966
 
Also, why did the vet say to drop his weight? I've noticed a lot of people think guinea pigs need to weigh a lot less than they do but honestly some pigs are just solid chunks - Comet was around 1.3kg, Jake hit 1.4kg at one point, but neither were overweight.
 
Also, why did the vet say to drop his weight? I've noticed a lot of people think guinea pigs need to weigh a lot less than they do but honestly some pigs are just solid chunks - Comet was around 1.3kg, Jake hit 1.4kg at one point, but neither were overweight.
I was wondering the same thing!
 
Also, why did the vet say to drop his weight? I've noticed a lot of people think guinea pigs need to weigh a lot less than they do but honestly some pigs are just solid chunks - Comet was around 1.3kg, Jake hit 1.4kg at one point, but neither were overweight.

Mine are on a strict diet and Poppy is still gaining weight. She's now 1.24kg
 
U can also try to sooth your piggies feet with some coconut oil one of my boys had bumblefoot I caught it in very early stages so I massaged coconut oil into his feet and it stopped the bumble foot getting worse and he seemed to enjoy the foot massage
 
We adopted them from Pets at home and they used their own vets. She seemed to know what the issue was and prescribed Metacam (see picture). I questioned the “for cats” and was told that recently it was passed for use in guinea pigs. I wondered about the weight issue too as Sputnik is a long boy and only weighs 1.2kg. Apollo is 1kg and is much shorter. The vet said that being overweight contributed to the Bumblefoot. I have also attached pics of his 2 front feet, which have the issue. Just want too say a massive Thank you for all the replies 💕
 

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Also, why did the vet say to drop his weight? I've noticed a lot of people think guinea pigs need to weigh a lot less than they do but honestly some pigs are just solid chunks - Comet was around 1.3kg, Jake hit 1.4kg at one point, but neither were overweight.
Exactly, my Stanley is a solid unit as @pig in the city will testify. :))
 
I was told by the emergency vet at my PAH that they weren't allowed to give out dog Metacam anymore as Cat Metacam has now been licenced for piggies when I questioned the cat Metacam. My usual vet at the same place when I went back was quite happy to give me a prescription for 6 months supply of dog Metacam. A lot depends on which vet you see and how cavy savvy they are.
 
We adopted them from Pets at home and they used their own vets. She seemed to know what the issue was and prescribed Metacam (see picture). I questioned the “for cats” and was told that recently it was passed for use in guinea pigs. I wondered about the weight issue too as Sputnik is a long boy and only weighs 1.2kg. Apollo is 1kg and is much shorter. The vet said that being overweight contributed to the Bumblefoot. I have also attached pics of his 2 front feet, which have the issue. Just want too say a massive Thank you for all the replies 💕

I really believe that your guinea pig has spurs which are very common and not bumblefoot so wouldn't need any medication at all. Maybe @Wiebke can double check for me
 
I was told by the emergency vet at my PAH that they weren't allowed to give out dog Metacam anymore as Cat Metacam has now been licenced for piggies when I questioned the cat Metacam. My usual vet at the same place when I went back was quite happy to give me a prescription for 6 months supply of dog Metacam. A lot depends on which vet you see and how cavy savvy they are.

There is a misconception about Metacam licensing. The licence for cat metacam in piggies is in very limited circumstances only - post operative pain for soft tissue surgery only. For anything other than that vets are still prescribing off licence. So as it’s off licence they can choose whether to prescribe cat or dog strength metacam. But many chains such as the PAH vets will have set their own internal policies on prescribing.
 
There is a misconception about Metacam licensing. The licence for cat metacam in piggies is in very limited circumstances only - post operative pain for soft tissue surgery only. For anything other than that vets are still prescribing off licence. So as it’s off licence they can choose whether to prescribe cat or dog strength metacam. But many chains such as the PAH vets will have set their own internal policies on prescribing.

My regular vets has such a policy that if metacam is being prescribed for piggies then it's cat metacam. It's annoying but I accept thats their policy
 
There is a misconception about Metacam licensing. The licence for cat metacam in piggies is in very limited circumstances only - post operative pain for soft tissue surgery only. For anything other than that vets are still prescribing off licence. So as it’s off licence they can choose whether to prescribe cat or dog strength metacam. But many chains such as the PAH vets will have set their own internal policies on prescribing.

Also can I ask your opinion on the most recent photos the op has put up. I think there's spurs but don't see anything indicating bumblefoot
 
The first foot does look like there's some dry skin there but it doesn't look swollen up. I would consider getting another vets opinion
 
We noticed it within a couple of weeks and took him to the vet immediately. They have said it isn’t a severe case but they gave us some medicine, told us to drop his weight by 100g and too keep the cage dry and not to use a wire floor (which we never have). The main problem we are having is stopping the daft water bottle dripping! View attachment 114966

Hi!

Has your vet checked whether it is actually the start of a completely harmless dead skin spur, which are very common in guinea pigs?
How piggy savvy are they?

It does definitely not look like bumblefoot. Unfortunately, online research can be very misleading. Because bumblefoot can be potentially fatal, it is getting all the press, and any little thing is mistaken for it.

What most people doing their research don't realise is that it is actually rather rare in well kept piggies, living in regularly cleaned cages without wire flooring. The piggies most at risk in good care are guinea pigs with long term mobility problems because they cannot take any weight off their weight bearing front legs or older and very frail piggies whose blood circulation and immune system are both poorly. Most often it is a combination of all these high risk factors.

Without seeing the piggy and the problem, we can only react to what we are told by the poster and we can only see things through their filter. that is why we can never replace vet visits (not that we or any other online places are medically qualified to do so).

Please take a look at this link here, and you will perceive the difference: A spur is a growth of horny skin usually on the edge of a foot pad while a bumblefoot sore is always right in the middle of a pad where pressure is highest. Guinea Lynx :: Guinea Pig Feet and Foot Problems

As to weight management, please take the time to read these links below.
The weight management guide does not only tell you about weight but also more crucially how to check whether your boy is a good weight for his size or not - and our method works for all sizes and ages independently of their absolute weight.
If your boy is really too chunky for his size, then the weight guide and our balanced general diet guide link will help you to achieve this in a healthy and sustainable way. A good hay based diet without lots of high sugar/fattening veg/fruit and pellets can really make a difference in general health and life span. Veg and pellets should be rather treated like a daily treat and not as the mainstay of the day, which is hay. It is the balanced quality of any veg and pellets and not the amount that counts; recommended amounts are being downgraded all the time.
While our general diet may not be the ultimate one, at least we do have the feedback and personal experiences of our long term members behind us, who all practice a diet centred around our recommended sample diet. We have hardly any bladder stone problems or opportunistic illnesses that point to a less than optimal immune system until our piggies reach old age or unless they develop health problems not in our control. Our guinea pigs are generally living 1-2 years longer than they used in times before. I would say that that is not the worst place to start from. ;)
Weight - Monitoring and Management
Long Term Balanced General And Special Needs Guinea Pig Diets
 
Wow I never expected to get so much amazing advice. What info I can give is limited about their past as we only got them 6 weeks ago and PAT didn’t take a history from the previous family. All we know is they are 2 years old and had to come together. The vets at PAT are the ones who told us that Sputnik has Bumblefoot. They advised us not to give too many pellets but too feed them plenty of veg and hay and to give them a Vit c supplement. There is a marked improvement in his feet so we must be doing something right. We have been advised to remove the saw dust and put a hemp mat down to help with the water leaks etc. Thank you all once again xx
 
Wow I never expected to get so much amazing advice. What info I can give is limited about their past as we only got them 6 weeks ago and PAT didn’t take a history from the previous family. All we know is they are 2 years old and had to come together. The vets at PAT are the ones who told us that Sputnik has Bumblefoot. They advised us not to give too many pellets but too feed them plenty of veg and hay and to give them a Vit c supplement. There is a marked improvement in his feet so we must be doing something right. We have been advised to remove the saw dust and put a hemp mat down to help with the water leaks etc. Thank you all once again xx

All the best!

The more we know about the background, the better we can help you with our advice and our own experiences.
We have got a recommended vets locator on the top bar if you ever want a second opinion.
 
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