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Littlepig&co

Littlepig&co

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So stressed right now.

Edmondo is unwell, he was fine up until this morning when I found him looking uncomfortable and clearly in pain. He also had a runny eye and was refusing to eat. He was seen to this afternoon but I was at college so wasn't there for the appointment. He was given a pain relief injection and I have to continue with oral metacam twice a day as of tomorrow. They couldn't see his teeth properly as he had food in his mouth so was told to see how he goes.

Well he's still the same, refusing to eat and refusing critical care. Ideally he needs to go to the vets tomorrow to go under GA to have his teeth checked and whatnot. However my family are telling me to see how he goes a bit longer. Which if it's teeth then waiting longer is going to achieve absolutely nothing. I don't want to be forcing critical care in when he's dribbling it out and not wanting it, as I don't want to cause him to aspirate.

Then there's my Little-pig, he's very skinny and has been since November when he lost his companions. I've always put it down to just grief as it only dropped off him when he was alone and no longer had company. Now I'm starting to wonder if he has anything.

Was supposed to be getting him a companion in a few months but that won't look likely at this rate.

Don't know what to do. Oh yes Edmondo is Daisy's son, if anybody remembers my Dalsy with jaw arthritis, elongated tooth roots and abscesses. She had to be put to sleep in the end as it all got too bad. She was only 3.5 years old. Edmondo has made it to 4 and he is inbred. Obviously I want to do everything that's possible to make sure he can live a long life. However if he does have dental issue and they're as bad as his mum's was, then is it fair really to put him through it?
 
Littlepig&co said:
So stressed right now.

Edmondo is unwell, he was fine up until this morning when I found him looking uncomfortable and clearly in pain. He also had a runny eye and was refusing to eat. He was seen to this afternoon but I was at college so wasn't there for the appointment. He was given a pain relief injection and I have to continue with oral metacam twice a day as of tomorrow. They couldn't see his teeth properly as he had food in his mouth so was told to see how he goes.

Well he's still the same, refusing to eat and refusing critical care. Ideally he needs to go to the vets tomorrow to go under GA to have his teeth checked and whatnot. However my family are telling me to see how he goes a bit longer. Which if it's teeth then waiting longer is going to achieve absolutely nothing. I don't want to be forcing critical care in when he's dribbling it out and not wanting it, as I don't want to cause him to aspirate.

Then there's my Little-pig, he's very skinny and has been since November when he lost his companions. I've always put it down to just grief as it only dropped off him when he was alone and no longer had company. Now I'm starting to wonder if he has anything.

Was supposed to be getting him a companion in a few months but that won't look likely at this rate.

Don't know what to do. Oh yes Edmondo is Daisy's son, if anybody remembers my Dalsy with jaw arthritis, elongated tooth roots and abscesses. She had to be put to sleep in the end as it all got too bad. She was only 3.5 years old. Edmondo has made it to 4 and he is inbred. Obviously I want to do everything that's possible to make sure he can live a long life. However if he does have dental issue and they're as bad as his mum's was, then is it fair really to put him through it?
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I am so sorry that your boy is still not well. :(
Please try mushed up pellets or a mix of critical care and pellets as well as water! It is vital that his guts are kept going! Pain is very often at the bottom of loss of appetite.
As to dental problem and what to decide, I am tagging in @furryfriends (TEAS) for you.

The loss of a companion can bring an underlying issue to the fore, which is any larger weight loss should always be checked by a vet, especially if it is ongoing.
 
Wiebke said:
I am so sorry that your boy is still not well. :(
Please try mushed up pellets or a mix of critical care and pellets as well as water! It is vital that his guts are kept going! Pain is very often at the bottom of loss of appetite.

The loss of a companion can bring an underlying issue to the fore, which is any larger weight loss should always be checked by a vet, especially if it is ongoing.
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I've just mushed up some pellets now so I'll try that as I don't think he liked the smell or taste of the critical care find grind. Even when I mixed some banana purée baby food. He is in pain yes, I can tell that myself :(

Little-pig lost a load of weight initially in November, he used to be 1170g but then dropped and he's only in the 900's. He's never got any lower than 900. He's really unhappy being alone so I always assume it's because of that. I will have to get him checked out somewhen really.

Seems like I only have one healthy Guinea pig out of 3.
 
Just had to rush to the emergency vets. Edmondo was frothing at the mouth and was gagging and sneezing.

V listened to him and he has irregular heart arithmetic and appears to be going into heart failure. He's really unwell. The options were to 1) put to sleep there and then or 2) Admit him and see how he responds on medication and then scan him later

The prognosis is looking very poor, he's likely to have a few weeks. That's even if he pulls through the next few hours.
 
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Just had to rush to the emergency vets. Edmondo was frothing at the mouth and was gagging and sneezing.

V listened to him and he has irregular heart arithmetic and appears to be going into heart failure. He's really unwell. The options were to 1) put to sleep there and then or 2) Admit him and see how he responds on medication and then scan him later

The prognosis is looking very poor, he's likely to have a few weeks. That's even if he pulls through the next few hours.
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I am so sorry!

BIG HUGS!
 
I hope they can stabilize him, heart failure is such a horrible disease but they can live happy lives if they can get over the initial crisis stage and become stable with medications. Its by no means a fix, the meds only manage it and minimise their symptoms. My 7 year old fudge was told 10 months ago she wouldnt last the week, if she did the meds would finish her kidneys off as she needed so much diuretics due to ALOT of fluid in the lungs.. She still needs all those diuretics and more, and shes still here.. Popcorning and eating more than my young healthy piggies.

It isnt easy by any means but dont lose all hope yet.. Getting him stable and the fluid under control can make things alot clearer.

Sending all my good luck vibes!xx
 
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If he gets through the initial crisis I can help you with heart information (as can Adelle).
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Thank you, I hope he can! I've not heard anything yet and he's been at the vets about 6 hours now. Think I may give them a call soon as I'm anxiously awaiting. Just seems so unfair he has to go through this. I wanted to give him a chance as despite the initial crisis, he was still bright somewhat. If we could get some more time then that would be lovely. But quality over quantity, I have to remember.
 
Okay just got a call from the vets. Heart failure confirmed, the heart is enlarged and there's fluid around it. He's not gagging as much however he's refusing to eat, even syringe feed. It's stressing him out. He's likely to only have days to a week or so. So I have to decide whether to try a bit longer which we could then end up with him going into stasis, or to help him along. He's not eaten in over 24 hours and it's not looking likely he'll eat.

ETA - we've got an appointment at 5pm to have him helped along to RB. I feel so numb, this isn't fair but there's no other option :(

@helen105281 @Adelle
 
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It's 100% the right decision Jack if he is that far along. Hugs.
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Thank you Helen. I can't believe this, he was completely fine up until yesterday morning. His auntie died of congestive heart failure, she didn't even get a chance to show symptoms.

I need to think that he's had 4 years, they live in the here and now. Dreading going in this evening and bringing Jasper back on his own. I'll have not one but 2 lonely piggies. Just so unfair :(.
 
I'm so sorry to hear this but you obviously love him a great deal to make this decision- you arent letting him suffer and thats the most you can do now. Xx
 
My heart goes out to you. It's so hard to make that decision for him but it's the kindest thing you can do. As my dear Mum said to me when I had to make the decision for Mr Ted - you have to love them enough to let them go. Hugest of hugs to you.
 
So sorry Jack, You have done all you can and are making the right choice. Thinking of Edmundo
 
You've done absolutely the right and kindest thing. I know that doesn't make it any easier to bear the loss. Hugs x
 
So sorry to hear your sad news. You did the right thing, sometimes as hard as it is it's kinder to help them over the bridge. Edmondo had 4 happy years cherish the good times.
 
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