Not Happy about run-rabbit-runs raffle competition...

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pinkyjo said:
I think that was put on our forum too. I think the point is with Jackie is that he is not sending her the run. He is not saying that the run will be delayed due to his personal problems, he is saying Jackie is not getting it and that is just not on.
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Totally agree jo, your right! If it was just delayed, because of personal problems, thats not ideal but ok. Too turn round and say she's hassling him so isn't getting it is just bang out!
 
nutmeg said:
Where is this guy based? Can you park yourself (or get someone else to) on his doorstep and demand your products. x
Is he still on line reading all this, as a member/guest?
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Hopefully I am just worrying for nothing, I only paid him on the 3rd March so still early days yet, although I haven't heard anything back yet. He said it would take 7-10 days then he would email me the courier details when it was sent out. Was just a bit freaked when I read the thread saying he wasn't running the business any more.

It is a shame that this experience is going to put people off taking part in raffles etc. I think we need to be sure that anything we take part in in the future through the forum is being run in conjunction with one of the rescues. It would be a shame if we could not support any rescues efforts to raise funds.
 
We all already knew about his problems- he told me a week after i order my cage and two weeks after i won the run and only after i asked him what was going on and i asked him there and then if he could do the order else i would wait and he said he could- so it's not as if i wasn't understanding or patient but he ignored my mails after that and also cut me off when i tried to ring his mobile but answered his business phone (This is after he promised to ring me back but didn't bother)- it's no way to treat anyone you have taken money off!

I will be claiming my money back through paypal like Joanne said.
 
garfieldette said:
It is a shame that this experience is going to put people off taking part in raffles etc. I think we need to be sure that anything we take part in in the future through the forum is being run in conjunction with one of the rescues. It would be a shame if we could not support any rescues efforts to raise funds.
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Not referring to this particular issue, as still not fully sure what is going on, but maybe mods could make some sort of ruling that 'new' people coming on to the forum, should not be allowed to ask for money via raffles, competitions etc., whatever their status. It could be too easily abused. Not sure if this would work, but I am sure mods are discussing issues around this now anyway, so hopefully they can come up with some safeguarding measures. x
 
Well i certainly won't have anythign against competetions run in conjuction with a rescue from this forum, i have ordered from Pollie as i know she does send the money to the rescue and there haev been posts to back this up- i though i was savy enough to not get scammed but it just shows how careful you have to be- you just need to be wary!

Oh and i would ring him if i was you- if you google run-rabbit-runs you will eventually see some ads he placed to sell the business so i know he's not just saying it! You maybe dealing with the new owner? Do you know the name of the person you are dealing with?

garfieldette said:
Hopefully I am just worrying for nothing, I only paid him on the 3rd March so still early days yet, although I haven't heard anything back yet. He said it would take 7-10 days then he would email me the courier details when it was sent out. Was just a bit freaked when I read the thread saying he wasn't running the business any more.

It is a shame that this experience is going to put people off taking part in raffles etc. I think we need to be sure that anything we take part in in the future through the forum is being run in conjunction with one of the rescues. It would be a shame if we could not support any rescues efforts to raise funds.
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I am so sorry you have experienced this. Is the person you have been speaking to called Steve? We had a pm on another forum and then an email to our business before xmas asking us if we would be interested in selling his products via our online shop. I had a look and they seemed good and he was also fairly local to us which meant we could collect and then courier out ourselves. Alarm bells rang for us when we didn't get the details through about the % commission and also photos and descriptions for the website. I called him and if I have the right person, he told me he was Long Distance Lorry Driver and would sort it all when he got back after this current job.

I asked him how long it took to fulfil orders etc if he was away driving and he assured me they had stock as he makes them inbetween jobs. However weeks later we still hadn't received pictures or price lists and then when the pics did come through it was a poor quality picture of a single small hutch and a separate run that would not have been suitable for us to sell. I did mail him back to ask for clearer pictures descriptions etc and was directed to another website to look at, but have never heard from him since. We will certainly NOT be dealing with this company and I hope you are able to get your money back. Whether he has issues with you or not regarding your order or likes you as a customer is irrelevant, you won the competition fair and square. I would certainly contact trading standards and you could even consider the small claims court.

What I have found though in business is companies that are trying to get you to sell their product want you to do all the giving. We bought several bloacks of hutches from a hutch maker and we recommended him to customers and on forums. When it came to needing more (over £1500 worth), we said how about free delivery (£30) or a discount seeing as we've passed all that business your way. He said not one person had come to him as a result of us, yet I knew from pictures posted on forums that at least a dozen had bought from him. We would never buy from him again or recommend him despite how good the hutches are.
 
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Hmmm i don't know what to say- you could give it a few days and then contact him but he never made contact with me and i never recieved courier details for the cage i had.

At the end of that day you shouldn't feel awkward about making contact with someone who was happy to take your money in return for a product- i know i always did when i did get through to him and thought to myself- i'm not going to order from him again.
The good thing is i did get the cage eventually but i was worried i wouldn't which is when i looked around the internet and found he was selling rabbit runs on gumtree (As recent as this sunday) and also was selling his business.

The fact that he told me he has sold it does concern me in terms of your order but hopefully he will fulfill your order!-c
 
Sorry this guy has scammed you :(, its such a shame, he to had contacted our rescue with an offer.He wanted us to sell his hutch's/runs and us getting one free. Ofcourse i didnt believe him (too good to be true right?) but asked him for a list anyway, he never botherd getting back to me.


Its a shame things like this happens as it puts people off from joining other comp's. I had planned on doing a few on here to raise money for our rescue and henrys much needed operation, but now hes ruined that for us too.
 
I think this whole situation is awful and i personally wish i had never bought a ticket in the raffle for the run. Its just very unfair to the winner. I doubt it will get sorted out but i very much hope it does.
 
The likes of Sophies raffle, she is a very active member on this forum, I do not think she will be penalised, because of this one individual. Anyone can see she is a rescue not too mention the amount of piggies she has rehomed though TGPF. People will still enter fundraisers, if they do believe them to be a rescue and obviously not a scam, well thats my view anyway!

Sorry Sophie for using you as my example, you just so happen to be doing a raffle just now :)), which might I add, I have entered :).
 
Cozmo said:
Just would like to add.....I would report him to trading standards! I have a feeling he has broken the law!
I know of numerous sites he offered this competition on...I shall be informing them of what happened so nobody gets caught out!
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I was going to suggest this myself, I think you're right.
 
JoanneG111 said:
The likes of Sophies raffle, she is a very active member on this forum, I do not think she will be penalised, because of this one individual. Anyone can see she is a rescue not too mention the amount of piggies she has rehomed though TGPF. People will still enter fundraisers, if they do believe them to be a rescue and obviously not a scam, well thats my view anyway!

Sorry Sophie for using you as my example, you just so happen to be doing a raffle just now :)), which might I add, I have entered :).
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Thanks Jo, I've read this thread in dismay as I don't want anyone to think I'd run off with anyone's money :( it's such a shame.

I know other forums have tighter rules about fundraising and I guess this is why - sad that it has to be the case though. I got approval for my raffle (and to run it in conjunction with the forum) before going ahead.

I'd hate to think that genuine fundraising for rescues might suffer as a result of this - we all need all the support we can get.

Sophie
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JoanneG111 said:
The likes of Sophies raffle, she is a very active member on this forum, I do not think she will be penalised, because of this one individual. Anyone can see she is a rescue not too mention the amount of piggies she has rehomed though TGPF. People will still enter fundraisers, if they do believe them to be a rescue and obviously not a scam, well thats my view anyway!

Sorry Sophie for using you as my example, you just so happen to be doing a raffle just now :)), which might I add, I have entered :).
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Yes, I've entered Sophie's raffle too, and have no hesitation in doing so. She's a very active and loyal member, and anyone wanting to enter her raffle need have no qualms at all.

I'm just horrified by what has happened in this other competition, and would say that 99.9% of the people in our Forum are honest, decent, caring and trustworthy - it's the .01% like this man who spoil things for everyone else.
 
Sue G said:
Yes, I've entered Sophie's raffle too, and have no hesitation in doing so. She's a very active and loyal member, and anyone wanting to enter her raffle need have no qualms at all.

I'm just horrified by what has happened in this other competition, and would say that 99.9% of the people in our Forum are honest, decent, caring and trustworthy - it's the .01% like this man who spoil things for everyone else.
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I totally agree, just wish Sophie would hurry up pop Zephyr in that jiffy bag for me :))!
 
She's too pearshaped to fit in a jiffy bag at the moment - I felt her babies moving on Sunday :)

Thanks everyone for your lovely comments

Sophie
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Thinking about what everybody else has said, I won something (cant remember what it was ) and havent received that either.

Hard lesson learnt and such a shame for the genuine people
 
Hi all,

I just wanted to add that I really hope this doesn't stop people entering the well known fundraisers on this forum, personally I will buy stuff from well know members or approved competitions, but I will not buy from people purely selling stuff for business- I've had my hands burnt now.
 
Hi all,

I just wanted to add that I really hope this doesn't stop people entering the well known fundraisers on this forum, personally I will buy stuff from well know members or approved competitions, but I will not buy from people purely selling stuff for business- I've had my hands burnt now.
 
Oh gosh! Was it a bag of wheatgrass, This Little Piggie? Has anyone received their prizes? Did Walsall RSPCA receive their £10? What about the other rescues who were supposed to have received proceeds from the sale of snuggies etc?

Has any rescue on the forum received any monies from the company?
 
Here is the list of people who were supposed to have won bags of wheatgrass as runner-up prizes:

Originally Posted by Run-Rabbit-Runs
We have 4 runners up prizes of a bag of wheat grass.
Stargrriclaire
Alison T
Doghouse135
This little piggie

I would be very interested to know whether any of these people received their prizes. Obviously Alison and Claire are known to me as regular posters, but Doghouse135 is a new member and cannot receive pms, which is particularly unfortunate.
 
i am confused. in one of his adverts selling the business, he states he has 10 runs already made up!
http://sheffield.gumtree.com/sheffield/75/53304075.html
why does he not just ship one to JackyB malletheadmallethead
if he does not give Jacky the run or the money equivalent for it, i would be happy to join a joint action for tradingstandards etc against this chap
Bx
 
i think maybe he was going bust and was coning people on here to get some money to try and help save his business,in his eyes if this is the case why send the run out while he can make double on the same run or even treble or more depends on how many forums he is on.he could have made 600 pounds on this run by doing the same thing in other forums by scamming people..or made even more if he is a fraudster then he has probley made thousands doing this and if anyone gave him bank details or card details then change your card NOW especially that he has been found out as you could end up with no money at all:( con men are very good at coning people has we have now found out they befriend people to gain trust then they pounce when people least expect it.
 
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The comments that have been made are all one sided i have not ripped anyone of at all i hope to god your partner never ever gets cancer or any other serious illness jackie. All she has done is give me grief she is being so unfair i told her she would het her run and she still would have but it would have been the end of this week begining of next she is totally wrong. That is the reason i would have redrawn it for her stroppy nature. For gods sake my partner is on deaths door and this is the **** i get just because she hasnt got her run just yet. Yes someone else is doing the business for me while my partner gets better I'm trying to do the best i can please dont judge on one womans comments.

Just be very carefull what you accuse me of Jackie i have not done anything wrong at all. I AM NOT A THIEF
 
I've closed this thread because it's going nowhere. We're investigating and if anyone has issues with Run-Rabbit-Runs it would be a good idea to take them up with him personally.
 
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