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i am having an absolute nightmare with our oil radiator we have set up in the girls summer house, i just can’t seem to get it to set to one temperature! i ‘click’ it off when at the temperature i want but it either seems to climb up or fall down and its causing me a lot of stress😅 does anyone else use a oil radiator and it not seem to keep the room a set temperature? is a slight fluctuation thoughout the day / night okay as long as its no lower than 15 or higher than 25? petrified I'm going to wake up in the morning to either them in ice cubes or cooked! i didn’t sleep last night checking every few hours or so🙃
 

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i am having an absolute nightmare with our oil radiator we have set up in the girls summer house, i just can’t seem to get it to set to one temperature! i ‘click’ it off when at the temperature i want but it either seems to climb up or fall down and its causing me a lot of stress😅 does anyone else use a oil radiator and it not seem to keep the room a set temperature? is a slight fluctuation thoughout the day / night okay as long as its no lower than 15 or higher than 25? petrified I'm going to wake up in the morning to either them in ice cubes or cooked! i didn’t sleep last night checking every few hours or so🙃


Aren’t they a pain !
I have one but don’t really use so I’m not much help !
Could you test it out indoors for a few hours to see what happens ?
Or does the manufacturer have a contact help line ?
I’m sure someone who has dealt with this problem will come along and offer advice
 
What temperature is the shed without using the radiator?
If it isn’t dropping too low without the radiator on then honestly it may be better to not use it as it’s sudden increases in temperature which are the highest threat.
If they’ve got hay in their hutch then they are not going to get particularly cold

Have you removed all the additional thermometers?
If so, what’s the one you are using telling you?
What is the temperature range the shed is going through?
If the temperatures you said on your other thread are the temperatures around which the shed is staying without the radiator on, then I would not bother using the heater at this point - those temperatures were absolutely fine

Yes some fluctuation is fine and is going to happen in an outdoor or shed setting.
Sometimes those radiators are best used to keep the chill off in winter (ie keep the room above 10 degrees) rather than keeping it at a consistent temperature 24/7 - as some of them are better than others.
Outdoor piggies do get used to the temperature fluctuating (often we have no control - my shed isn’t heated and those in hutches outside could have even less control), you are mainly just looking to ensure they don’t get too hot and adding lots of extra hay in winter to make sure they don’t get cold

We used to have an oil rad in an office I worked in and it never seemed to keep things stable. Youd hear it clicking on and off and wonder why it had done that as it was still either too hot to come on or too cold to go off!
 
I have an oil radiator but it does look different. Mine switches itself off when the desired room temperature is reached and then will switch itself on again when more heat is required an hour or two later.
 
it dropped to 14 in here last night twice i feel so horrible😭😭😭😭 can this make them ill, is there anything i should look out for?! or is it just they would have gotten a bit chilly and gone upstairs in all the hay together? this is absolutely doing me in, i stayer up early hours of the morning debating on sleeping in here, i feel vile knowing i was warm
in bed and it had dropped😢
 
Aren’t they a pain !
I have one but don’t really use so I’m not much help !
Could you test it out indoors for a few hours to see what happens ?
Or does the manufacturer have a contact help line ?
I’m sure someone who has dealt with this problem will come along and offer advice

i hope so; i have no idea what to do
 
What temperature is the shed without using the radiator?
If it isn’t dropping too low without the radiator on then honestly it may be better to not use it as it’s sudden increases in temperature which are the highest threat.
If they’ve got hay in their hutch then they are not going to get particularly cold

Have you removed all the additional thermometers?
If so, what’s the one you are using telling you?
What is the temperature range the shed is going through?
If the temperatures you said on your other thread are the temperatures around which the shed is staying consistent without the radiator on, then I would not bother using the heater at this point - those temperatures were absolutely fine

Yes some fluctuation is fine and is going to happen in an outdoor or shed setting.
Sometimes those radiators are best used to keep the chill off in winter (ie keep the room above 10 degrees) rather than keeping it at a consistent temperature 24/7 - as some of them are better than others.
Outdoor piggies do get used to the temperature fluctuating (often we have no control - my shed isn’t heated and those in hutches outside could have even less control), you are mainly just looking to ensure they don’t get too hot and adding lots of extra hay in winter to make sure they don’t get cold

We used to have an oil rad in an office I worked in and it never seemed to keep things stable. Youd hear it clicking on and off and wonder why it had done that as it was still either too hot to come on or too cold to go off!


it’s basically the same as outside temp maybe 1 degree warmer. when you say sudden is that in the span of say 10 minutes? for example at 1.55am it was 16.5, at 2.22am is was 15.6. is this dangerous? nope the temperatures i posted where with the heater, its too cold without. I'm stressing out massively. i left last night at 18 degrees as it was climbing up i believed it was going to turn off at 19 but nope it went all over the place lowest 14.8 at 5.17am and again at 5.56am this morning and again at 6.34am, them my mum woke up and turned it up by 6.56am it was 16, 7.20 17 and now 18. is this dangerous how quickly its gone up? when they say it makes them ill the sudden changes what illness is it? will i notice straight away if something is up or is it more developing URIs or something?!

I'm absolutely petrified, my anxiety has absolutely skyrocketed since iv had them home😭😭😭 i don’t know what to do
 
I have an oil radiator but it does look different. Mine switches itself off when the desired room temperature is reached and then will switch itself on again when more heat is required an hour or two later.

this is exactly how mines supposed to work.. do you have a link to yours?
 
it dropped to 14 in here last night twice i feel so horrible😭😭😭😭 can this make them ill, is there anything i should look out for?! or is it just they would have gotten a bit chilly and gone upstairs in all the hay together? this is absolutely doing me in, i stayer up early hours of the morning debating on sleeping in here, i feel vile knowing i was warm
in bed and it had dropped😢

You see I’m used to outdoor piggy living so 14 degrees in March is a delight for me and I now have no concerns about them now the coldest weather has (hopefully) passed.
My shed was 14 degrees all day yesterday. I took no extra measures.
It’s 10 degrees in there right now (it’ll warm up in there as the day goes on) - the boys are foraging around, feel warm to touch and are perfectly happy.
At this temperature I do not do anything extra (in addition to the normal winter extra hay)
 
You see I’m used to outdoor piggy living so 14 degrees in March is a delight for me and I now have no concerns about them now the coldest weather has (hopefully) passed.
My shed was 14 degrees all day yesterday. I took no extra measures.
It’s 10 degrees in there right now (it’ll warm up in there as the day goes on) - the boys are foraging around, feel warm to touch and are perfectly happy.
At this temperature I do not do anything extra (in addition to the normal winter extra hay)

mine have been inside for the last few years☹️ i had no other option with moving except giving them up.. maybe iv been selfish😭 they had been at 17 degrees at the boarders, I'm
hoping because it hadn’t suddenly dropped it wont be an issue, but I'm still scared because it was below 15.
 
You aren’t being selfish.
What I am saying is that they are going to need to get used to being in colder temperatures which is much easier for them to do than getting too hot.

what temperature is it without the heater on at all?

I only get worried if my shed goes below 10 degrees - my shed is not heated at all.
In winter they always get extra hay as standard.
Mine shed is roughly a degree or two warmer than outside, so if the night time is going to be 10 degrees then be 12 in the shed so I don’t do anything more than the normal winter hay level.
If it is going to be below 10 degrees then they get heatpads, a blanket over the cage and more hay in addition to the normal amounts of winter hay
(I hope this is making sense).
Once it is 15 degrees in the shed overnight then I don’t worry about them or do anything extra at all

No those temperatures over night would not worry me for making them ill - they are all perfectly within their range and would not concern me at all for outdoor living piggies. They are not too cold temperatures.
Consistency is best though which is why I’d say to not use the radiator but I need to know what temperature the shed is without the radiator being on

If you don’t use the radiator but put extra hay in the hutch, perhaps throw a blanket over the front of the hutch and pop in some heatpads if it below 15 degrees then that provides consistency as well as warmth for them to sit near the heatpads.
Next winter they will have adjusted to outdoor living; this is why I don’t let mine go below 10 degrees rather when 15, they’re fine with it provided they’ve got extra hay and a heatpad
 
You aren’t being selfish.
What I am saying is that they are going to need to get used to being in colder temperatures which is much easier for them to do than getting too hot.

what temperature is it without the heater on at all?

I only get worried if my shed goes below 10 degrees - my shed is not heated at all.
In winter they always get extra hay as standard.
Mine shed is roughly a degree or two warmer than outside, so if the night time is going to be 10 degrees then be 12 in the shed so I don’t do anything more than the normal winter hay level.
If it is going to be below 10 degrees then they get heatpads, a blanket over the cage and more hay in addition to the normal amounts of winter hay
(I hope this is making sense).
Once it is 15 degrees in the shed overnight then I don’t worry about them or do anything extra at all

No those temperature over night would not worry me for making them ill - they are all perfectly within their range and would not concern me at all for outdoor living piggies. They are not too cold temperatures.
Consistency is best though which is why I’d say to not use the radiator but I need to know what temperature the shed is without the radiator being on

If you don’t use the radiator but put extra hay in the hutch, perhaps throw a blanket over the hutch and pop in some heatpads if it below 15 degrees then that provides consistency as well as warmth for them to sit near the heatpads.
Next winter they will have adjusted to outdoor and this is why I don’t let mine go below 10 degrees rather when 15.

without the heater or its more or less whatever it is outside.. so last night would have been 8.
makes total sense thank you. I'm just worried because they've been indoor pigs.

if this did make them ill what illness would it be and what do i look out for?
 
As the radiator looks like it may be difficult to control, I would not use it in an attempt to keep the temperature stable. I would either turn it down as low as possible and look to use it to keep the chill off rather than heat the space; or not use it at all if it is going to cause rising and falling - it’s not the temperature itself that is the problem in your case (as they are all within the range - you look to keep them within a 5 degree difference at any one time) but it’s repeated up and down. I want to be very clear here though that the ranges you describe as having happened in one night would not concern me as this one off event

I would then take measures on the hutch as I say, extra hay, heatpads in the hutch and a blanket over the hutch. Houses stuffed with hay.
It’s easier to keep them warm like that without risking the radiator heating things up too much. It’s the heat that would bother me a lot more. Going with natural fluctuations throughout the seasons and taking measures according to that means they can adjust gradually. When the real problems come is during summer when it’s 20 degrees one day, 30 the next.
They will get used to cooler temperatures and next winter you will not need to worry.

If they are going about their business, foraging, wandering about etc then they are not too cold.

Signs of illness are all the usual things - weight loss, lethargy, noisy breathing etc
But I would not be concerned that what happened last night is going to make them ill
 
As the radiator looks like it may be difficult to control, I would not use it in an attempt to keep the temperature stable. I would either turn it down as low as possible and look to use it to keep the chill off rather than heat the space; or not use it at all if it is going to cause rising and falling - it’s not the temperature itself that is the problem in your case (as they are all within the range - you look to keep them within a 5 degree difference at any one time) but it’s repeated up and down. I want to be very clear here though that the ranges you describe as having happened in one night would not concern me as this one off event

I would then take measures on the hutch as I say, extra hay, heatpads in the hutch and a blanket over the hutch. Houses stuffed with hay.
It’s easier to keep them warm like that without risking the radiator heating things up too much. It’s the heat that would bother me a lot more. Going with natural fluctuations throughout the seasons and taking measures according to that means they can adjust gradually. When the real problems come is during summer when it’s 20 degrees one day, 30 the next.
They will get used to cooler temperatures and next winter you will not need to worry.

If they are going about their business, foraging, wandering about etc then they are not too cold.

Signs of illness are all the usual things - weight loss, lethargy, noisy breathing etc
But I would not be concerned that what happened last night is going to make them ill

really? thats a real shame to hear, i wanted to keep it warm
as obviously they’ve come from inside. i understand the ranges aren’t concerning and its more just the fluctuations.

if i’m honest the amount of stress this is causing me is really a struggle and if summers going to be worse i don’t think i can handle it. the anxiety just eats me, i cant think of anything else and it makes me depressed.

who would have thought the things that bring me the most happiness in life are also what causes the majority or my anxiety and stress😢 i just love them so much
 
really? thats a real shame to hear, i wanted to keep it warm
as obviously they’ve come from inside. i understand the ranges aren’t concerning and its more just the fluctuations.

if i’m honest the amount of stress this is causing me is really a struggle and if summers going to be worse i don’t think i can handle it. the anxiety just eats me, i cant think of anything else and it makes me depressed.

who would have thought the things that bring me the most happiness in life are also what causes the majority or my anxiety and stress😢 i just love them so much

They are warm, you have achieved that but you’re looking for a consistency that may not be achievable in your particular shed.
If the radiator is set at 19, the temp in the shed may still rise a little as the radiator doesn’t instantly go cold so it’s that kind of adjustment which could be needed - Perhaps if you don’t want to go with using it to take the chill off, you could try to set it at, say, 17 and then see what happens today - if it still rises to 19 or 20 in the shed for a while after the rad goes off then it’s all still fine. If it gets down to 14 or 15 before it comes back on then again it would still be fine. But you may have to get used to being in ranges if you’re using a heater.

Some people may manage with the radiators and keep it consistent but it is also going to depend on the shed, the insulation, the brand of radiator may work differently etc etc. It’s not going to be the same for everyone.
My original shed (again not heated but insulated) kept warmer inside than the one I have now (which is odd as the one I have now is much better quality!). I had to learn all over again what was going to work with my new shed despite having done outdoor keeping for years prior.
Outdoor/shed keeping is not going to be the same as inside - it is a new way of thinking and adjusting for what it brings.
I keep my piggies warm without the heating, it just takes different methods but works perfectly well but we aren’t dealing with fluctuations the same as a heater could produce - we just have the temperature of the day/night and then adjust for that

I get you are anxious about it but they will adjust and will be fine.
 
They are warm, you have achieved that but you’re looking for a consistency that may not be achievable in your particular shed.
If the radiator is set at 19, the temp in the shed may still rise a little as the radiator doesn’t instantly go cold so it’s that kind of adjustment which could be needed - Perhaps if you don’t want to go with using it to take the chill off, you could try to set it at, say, 17 and then see what happens today - if it still rises to 19 or 20 in the shed for a while after the rad goes off then it’s all still fine. If it gets down to 14 or 15 before it comes back on then again it would still be fine. But you may have to get used to being in ranges if you’re using a heater.

Some people may manage with the radiators and keep it consistent but it is also going to depend on the shed, the insulation, the brand of radiator may work differently etc etc. It’s not going to be the same for everyone.
My original shed (again not heated but insulated) kept warmer inside than the one I have now (which is odd as the one I have know is much better quality!). I had to learn all over again what was going to work with my new shed despite having done outdoor keeping for years prior.
Outdoor/shed keeping is not going to be the same as inside - it is a new way of thinking and adjusting for what it brings.
I keep my piggies warm without the heating, it just takes different methods but works perfectly well but we aren’t dealing with fluctuations the same as a heater could produce - we just have the temperature of the day/night and then adjust for that

I get you are anxious about it but they will adjust and will be fine.

yes that makes sense, i just want to thank you for taking your time to reply, and in so much depth! i will continue to faf around / monitor it today and see where that gets me. i’m a little confused here when you say if it rises and drops its okay as i thought that was the issue? i don’t mind it having a ‘range’ in temp as long as its not harmful, its only what youve said on this post about it fluctuating thats gotten me worried.

thank you
 
yes that makes sense, i just want to thank you for taking your time to reply, and in so much depth! i will continue to faf around / monitor it today and see where that gets me. i’m a little confused here when you say if it rises and drops its okay as i thought that was the issue? i don’t mind it having a ‘range’ in temp as long as its not harmful, its only what youve said on this post about it fluctuating thats gotten me worried.

thank you

Around a 5 difference you’re fine - you don’t really want sudden changes of more than that (I thought I did mention the 5 degree change point - apologies if I didn’t, I had intended to but my thoughts may have run away with me) (that is why piggies living outside can’t come into a house or vice versa in winter as the difference from a midwinter day to inside a house is going to be huge) as that is when they can find it hard to warm up or cool down (their method of blood flow through the ears is not very effective)

I would rather the air was colder but they have warm places in the hutch to go to, than the whole space be too hot and they have no way to escape it or cool down

And also remember, being in a shed out of wind and rain is a major bonus even if it is cooler in there than you’d like
 
Around a 5 difference you’re fine - you don’t really want sudden changes of more than that (I thought I did mention the 5 degree change point - apologies if I didn’t, I had intended to but my thoughts may have run away with me) (that is why piggies living outside can’t come into a house or vice versa in winter as the difference from a midwinter day to inside a house is going to be huge) as that is when they can find it hard to warm up or cool down (their method of blood flow through the ears is not very effective)

I would rather the air was colder but they have warm places in the hutch to go to, than the whole space be too hot and they have no way to escape it or cool down

And also remember, being in a shed out of wind and rain is a major bonus even if it is cooler in there than you’d like

5 degrees over what sort of time period?
sorry i believe you did but i missunderstood. i thought last night was a huge problem but actually 19-14 is 5 degrees..

yes that makes total sense about it getting too hot in there, ill see how the temp goes today and make a decision from there. thanks so much for your help.
 
Around a 5 difference you’re fine - you don’t really want sudden changes of more than that (I thought I did mention the 5 degree change point - apologies if I didn’t, I had intended to but my thoughts may have run away with me) (that is why piggies living outside can’t come into a house or vice versa in winter as the difference from a midwinter day to inside a house is going to be huge) as that is when they can find it hard to warm up or cool down (their method of blood flow through the ears is not very effective)

I would rather the air was colder but they have warm places in the hutch to go to, than the whole space be too hot and they have no way to escape it or cool down

And also remember, being in a shed out of wind and rain is a major bonus even if it is cooler in there than you’d like

re-reading the thread your right, i definitely mis understood, you said the temperature fluctuations last night where in-fact okay, its just better to be at a constant temperature? so not using heater at all may be better option.

i hope iv got that right! sorry mixture of not sleeping great and anxiety got my head in a fog!
 
Yes it’s better to be constant and within five degrees is constant.
Yes it may be better to not use the heater at all at this time of year (unless we suddenly have a big cold snap) - go with what you have got with the natural temperature and keep them warm within that - you aren’t going to get huge fluctuations in a short space of time by doing that.

You may need to use the heater midwinter and it may take some testing to find what works best but as I say, you may just need to use it to tick over rather than actively heat

Cold Weather Care for Indoor and Outdoor Guinea Pigs
 
Yes it’s better to be constant and within five degrees is constant.
Yes it may be better to not use the heater at all at this time of year (unless we suddenly have a big cold snap) - go with what you have got with the natural temperature and keep them warm within that - you aren’t going to get huge fluctuations in a short space of time by doing that.

You may need to use the heater midwinter and it may take some testing to find what works best but as I say, you may just need to use it to tick over rather than actively heat

Cold Weather Care for Indoor and Outdoor Guinea Pigs

i definitely misunderstood! i thought constant meant literally at 18 or 19, one number, i take things way too literally! ill see what today brings and maybe ditch the heater all together like you say. thanks so much
 
how long does it take for guineas to acclimatise from being indoors to outdoors? so for example now my girls have been out for a few nights, are they now acclimatised to outdoor living as long as it doesn’t drop below 15 degrees?
 
1-2 weeks.
Try to keep them above 15 for that time but please do not worry if it does go to 13/14 - they are not suddenly going to get ill because of it - provided they have somewhere warm in the hutch to snuggle into.
Being in the shed and out of wind is making a huge difference to them. (Being in a hutch outside, exposed to wind and damp as well as cold is where there would be a bigger issue).

If they are not snuggling up (not necessarily with each other though) and are otherwise out and about, foraging and behaving normally then they are not too cold

I really don’t want you to worry too much - it’s not as if it is mid-January and in freezing temperatures so as long as the hutch is kept well bedded and they’ve got hides to go into, they will be fine
 
1-2 weeks.
Try to keep them above 15 for that time but please do not worry if it does go to 13/14 - they are not suddenly going to get ill because of it - provided they have somewhere warm in the hutch to snuggle into.
Being in the shed and out of wind is making a huge difference to them. (Being in a hutch outside, exposed to wind and damp as well as cold is where there would be a bigger issue).

If they are not snuggling up (not necessarily with each other though) and are otherwise out and about, foraging and behaving normally then they are not too cold

I really don’t want you to worry too much - it’s not as if it is mid-January and in freezing temperatures so as long as the hutch is kept well bedded and they’ve got hides to go into, they will be fine


oooo okay! oh yes they have plenty of hay and hides etc. maybe it’ll be a case of putting the rad on over night lowest temp like you say to keep the chill out, then in the day just let it sit at whatever the temperature gets. then that way its more consistent.

when you say about draughts being an issue, does that mean i couldn’t just leave the door open on a warmer day to let in some breeze?
 
oooo okay! oh yes they have plenty of hay and hides etc. maybe it’ll be a case of putting the rad on over night lowest temp like you say to keep the chill out, then in the day just let it sit at whatever the temperature gets. then that way its more consistent.

when you say about draughts being an issue, does that mean i couldn’t just leave the door open on a warmer day to let in some breeze?

It’s absolutely fine to leave the door open for some breeze and ventilation on a warm day. (As long as they are secure and safe in there)
A breeze on a warm day and a draught on a cold, wet day are two very different things.

My two currently have their door open (it’s a stable door with an internal mesh door). The sun keeps coming and going today with clear patches of blue sky and then goes cloudy. It’s 16 degrees outside and very pleasant when the sun is out. It’s currently 22 degrees in their shed (it was 10 degrees at 8am this morning). My two are bordering on needing to come out and go into their run if the temp in their shed goes up much more
 
It’s absolutely fine to leave the door open for some breeze and ventilation on a warm day. (As long as they are secure and safe in there)
A breeze on a warm day and a draught on a cold, wet day are two very different things.

My two currently have their door open (it’s a stable door with an internal mesh door). The sun keeps coming and going today with clear patches of blue sky and then goes cloudy. It’s 16 degrees outside and very pleasant when the sun is out. It’s currently 22 degrees in their shed (it was 10 degrees at 8am this morning). My two are bordering on needing to come out and go into their run if the temp in their shed goes up much more

amazing, so as long as they are locked in the hutch, just wanting to be prepared. I'm looking at potentially making a mesh door to put in for when itll be needed.

this is really helpful thank you, so the jump from 10 - 22 today isn't a problem? mines gone from 15 at 6am this morning to now 22 with the shed shut (we have no windows to open). i think it might be a good idea to keep the heater off in the day, especially if it is buggered. then like i say just try to stop it getting below 15 in the evening. if it’s allowed to go up in temperature like yours has today this should’nt be an issue and i feel could hugely reduce my stress. although it is 17 degrees today, rest of the week is 12/13, i suppose its just playing around with it and see what works best!
 
Definitely get a mesh door - it’s going to make a huge difference.

The difference in temperature has gone up gradually throughout the day as it has warmed up. They are fine with it. I will get them out if necessary.
I start to use the mesh doors from now. My shed will eventually get too hot (and more so as we get to summer) so even having the mesh doors won’t be enough and they will have to come completely out of the shed.
But for this time of year until around late spring the mesh doors are vital if I’m not home to get them in the run. As I say the door is open today and it’s already 22 degrees in there; door shut it would be beyond 25 and incredibly uncomfortable despite it only being 16 outside. This is why I find summer hard
 
Definitely get a mesh door - it’s going to make a huge difference.

The difference in temperature has gone up gradually throughout the day as it has warmed up. They are fine with it. I will get them out if necessary.
I start to use the mesh doors from now. My shed will eventually get too hot (and more so as we get to summer) so even having the mesh doors won’t be enough and they will have to come completely out of the shed.
But for this time of year until around late spring the mesh doors are vital if I’m not home to get them in the run. As I say the door is open today and it’s already 22 degrees in there; door shut it would be beyond 25 and incredibly uncomfortable despite it only being 16 outside. This is why I find summer hard

that makes sense about it being gradually increasing.. so thats safe for any pig in that instance? as long as its not sudden?
 
that makes sense about it being gradually increasing.. so thats safe for any pig in that instance? as long as its not sudden?

An increase over the day is unavoidable as the nicer weather comes.
Don’t let them get too hot so ventilate the shed.
I then close my shed up about now which then traps the warmth in and keeps the temp up overnight.
This time of year isn’t hard to manage, it’s as we get more to summer that it becomes harder. Those breezes which provided ventilation in spring become heated in summer and then raise the temperature inside sheds and hutches very quickly which then pose a danger to them.
(My shed got to 45 degrees last year when the outside was mid 20s)
 
An increase over the day is unavoidable as the nicer weather comes.
Don’t let them get too hot so ventilate the shed.
I then close my shed up about now which then traps the warmth in and keeps the temp up overnight.
This time of year isn’t hard to manage, it’s as we get more to summer that it becomes harder. Those breezes which provided ventilation in spring become heated in summer and then raise the temperature inside sheds and hutches very quickly which then pose a danger to them.
(My shed got to 45 degrees last year when the outside was mid 20s)

thanks so much!

i remember from having them in the shed before, going to sit down and work out plans for summer.. i know its a nightmare.
that’s disgustingly hot🥵
 
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