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Olla (or should I say Hello).

Since been back I have accessed Patrick some more and spoke to the vet. The pathologist suggested our next step is to take blood from my little Patrick to check his kidneys - he said this kind of infection is not common in Guinea Pig's?

I discussed the next step with my vet and he is very much on my wavelength as we both agree Patrick is not showing signs of kidney problems, perhaps he may have a kidney infection but even then I would expect his drinking to increase quite considerably and as Patrick doesn't drink I personally think his kidneys are fine.

The pathologist didn't have a big enough sample to do a culture - he advised there are bacterial organism's present and so far they seem to be resistant against Baytril and Septrin so we are now thinking a new antibiotic but first of all we are going to do a culture to check the correct Antibiotic to use.

He is currently still on Baytril no blood but he is still crying once he comes off the Baytril he will normally start passing blood again vicious cycle.

Next step another sterile culture but it will not be taken from his bladder, as common as it is my Patrick has a sore bladder and sticking a needle into it in my eyes won't help thankfully the vet has agreed I can take the sample myself.

I think my pig's want to bankrupt me.. rolleyes
 
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When I got home this evening Patrick was clearly uncomfortable and passing blood again he finished his Antibiotics yesterday so I expected as much although I didn't predict how quickly the blood would reappear, poor baby!

I am going to provide the vet with Patrick's sample tomorrow and hopefully we can move forward.

This is Patrick this evening.

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He's now had pain killer's and my goodness he is a lot happier! x
 
Oh Patrick honey! That's not good sweet heart. Poor little thing squeaking away.
Lets hope the vet can figure out what to do.
Chin rub coming your way Patrick x
 
Oh baby boy :0:0
I hate to hear you cry :...
whee all send you some very very special loves and kisses from the girls and I XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
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and Jo for you too cause i know how much it hurts you to hear him like this :0
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CandyFloss said:
oooh good luck :)
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Done - my hands, Patrick's erm manhood and his feet all got sterilised with Hibiscrub. The area in the room also got cleaned with Hibiscrub. I heated a glass bowl to 180 degree's in the Oven for 15 minutes and then allowed to cool in the Oven (sterile surrounding due to the heat intensity), I then placed Patrick in the Glass Bowl once it was cool, syringed urine up with sterile syringe and placed in sterile container.. Phew!
 
I just hope it's sterile - although there's nothing else I could do to ensure it was or is, fingers crossed we can get some bacteria grown! X
 
Good job! Really hope you can get some answers. You certainly do everything possible to help your piggies and definitely deserve a break x
 
Anybody want to know how to get a Sterile urine sample?

I am a pro, little Patrick's urine was STERILE - no bloods, bacteria or anything. It appears we are now dealing with Chronic Cystitis along with re-occurring infection which responds to Baytril or Septrin but each time he's infected his bladder wall becomes more thickened and inflamed so little Patrick is pretty much on pain relief for life.

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flintstones said:
Anybody want to know how to get a Sterile urine sample?

I am a pro, little Patrick's urine was STERILE - no bloods, bacteria or anything. It appears we are now dealing with Chronic Cystitis along with re-occurring infection which responds to Baytril or Septrin but each time he's infected his bladder wall becomes more thickened and inflamed so little Patrick is pretty much on pain relief for life.

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I was wondering if it is a "mechanical" problem ie whether he has a problem with the opening between the bladder & the urethra maybe the muscle is too tight & that can cause a back flow of urine? Just a thought, obviously if that was the case there isn't really much more you can do than what you are doing already. :)
 
Glad that there is no infection. Sounds like he has the same condition as Gizmo I.C my vet also called it chronic cystitis.

I hope that the pain relief helps xx
 
Poor Patrick. I hope that you can get his pain under control with meds. If I was a guinea pig with persistent pain, I would want you as an owner (although you might not want me!). You are so tuned in to how your piggies are feeling that you'll know just when Patrick needs some extra help. xx
 
Pleased to hear you managed to get a sterile sample! Well done! I'll be PMing you should i need to get one in the future Jo! I hope that Patricks pain can be managed well in the long term, poor little guy! :(
 
Doe's anyone think they know something bad is going to happen poor little Patrick was like a hedgehog when I opened his carrier - hunched, fluffed and his head right down clearly not happy. He had his first injection of Cosequin as planned, and I have to flush his bladder as often as possible. He's not to happy this evening and I plan on topping him up with Watery Critical Care in the hope to hydrate him more! Generally speaking he's feeling very sorry for himself.
 
Sorry to hear it. Poor little Patrick :(

Really hope he's feeling better very soon. I'm sure you're doing everything you possibly can x
 
flintstones said:
Doe's anyone think they know something bad is going to happen poor little Patrick was like a hedgehog when I opened his carrier - hunched, fluffed and his head right down clearly not happy. He had his first injection of Cosequin as planned, and I have to flush his bladder as often as possible. He's not to happy this evening and I plan on topping him up with Watery Critical Care in the hope to hydrate him more! Generally speaking he's feeling very sorry for himself.
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I am so sorry to hear he is looking poorly. What is the Cosequin for? I've never heard of it so just googled it and it said it was a joint supplement for dogs, cats and horses.:{:{
 
Poor Patrick, hope he feels better soon. You are a great slave, he's very lucky to have you. Get well soon Patrick x
 
furryfriends said:
I am so sorry to hear he is looking poorly. What is the Cosequin for? I've never heard of it so just googled it and it said it was a joint supplement for dogs, cats and horses.:{:{
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Google cosequin for Bladders in cats - it's proving to be quite a miracle cure for some cat's suffering from IC although it is licensed for arthritis in dogs and cats initially.

We're trying it for 4 weeks to see if it helps.
 
flintstones said:
Google cosequin for Bladders in cats - it's proving to be quite a miracle cure for some cat's suffering from IC although it is licensed for arthritis in dogs and cats initially.

We're trying it for 4 weeks to see if it helps.
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Ah I see now! Has your vet used it before with guinea pigs or is Patrick being a guinea pig in all ways? I really hope it is going to help him. What a worry for you.

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