PLEASE HELP! Boar issues! very long post..sorry!

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So yesterday ditto went boar dating! He was friendly with both a black rex boar 10 weeks and a diluted orange abysinian boar 12 weeks. So anyway the lady who rescues and breeds with 15 year experience, said i could have the choice of either piggy as they all seem fine with my ditto. So i picked the abysinian boar hes lovely and has pink eyes.. She did warn me the breed was known for being wild and my god she was right! I cant get any where near him without him running petrified alover the cage hes even head butted the side of the cage as hea gone bombing round that fast. I havent seen him come out of the sleepig compartment to drink or eat yet which is worrying me ALOT. so i keep putting cucumber and cabbage etc in the sleeping compartment for him. My mum says to give him time to adjust and keep trying to stroke him etc as he lived out in a shed and lady didnt have alot of time to spend with each piggy as individuals... Anyway i need help with the taming part please and is the lady correct in saying the abys are abit wilder than other breeds?! Also another BIG problem is that the baby WILL NOT allow ditto into thr sleeping area? He seems so timid and frightened and yet as soon as ditto pokes his head into entrance hole to sleeping area the baby runs forward nips ditto and stands blocking entrance until ditto backs off then the baby retreats back into the sleeping area? ... Ditto slept in front of cage all night as i kept checking as i couldnt sleep and he NEVER sleepa in front.. I'm considering ringing the lady and taking this piggy back and trying the black rex boar.. What do you think . I'm so torn. The rex could be worse! .. I'm so torn. Please help. Opinions please :-(
 
You should have 2 of everything- so you should have 2 places where they could sleep. I think you should give the baby a chance to settle in before you make any decisions about returning him
 
There teeth chattering at eachother, and rumbling at eachother is this a good sign? And i will buy 2 igloos today then and removed the large sleeping box they have as i dont want to take up to much of their floor space....
 
They are definately sorting out who's boss. Did you clean the cage thoroughly before putting both in? The territory has to be neutral so they establish dominance.
What they are doing is normal, I would give it time. Also, as I don't know the place you picked up your boar, it might be worth getting the new one vet checked to be safe. We normally advise quarantining any pig that doesn't come from a rescue, for 3 weeks to check for any signs of illness and I only says this now as I'm confused as to the nature of this person you got the pig from, rescue-breeder does not make sense, in fact they conflict each other cos no rescue would ever breed. Anyway, just wanted to point that out, if in any doubt, quarantine then bond.

Below is what I posted on your other thread about bonding, couldn't be bothered to retype lol :

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No definately do not spread their scents.
If all goes well and there's no immidiate dislike then I imagine you will come home with dittos new friend. When you bring them home I advise setting up an area in a pen of some sort like on the living room floor where they can get to know each other and its completely neutral. If they're not going to get along you normally find out pretty quick, very very loud teeth chattering, lunging, biting.
But there's lots of behaviour that can look worrying to us that IS normal to them so don't panic! They may mildly teeth chatter, nip, chase, rumble strutt, mount and hump, amongst other things but its all about them sorting out whose boss.
I would leave them anything from half hour to a couple, whatever you're comfortable with.
When you put them back in their cage ensure you have thoroughly cleaned it first, its all about neutral territory. They'll probably be some chasing again while they establish who sleeps where and stuff.
I would advise making sure they each have their own beds and hidey places. Some boar pairs prefer to have seperate food bowls (i have one pair that share and one pair that won't) so it wouldnt hurt to have spare dishes and water bottles just incase they like their own. Lots of hay and food is a great distraction whilst they're settling in
Hope that helps and good luck!
 
The lady was a rescue as she takes in pigs our local sancuary doesnt have room for then trys to rehome them herself. And she breeds as she shows rexes and abysinnians. She is stopping breeding soon though she said as she no longer shows them. I took ditto to her and we put ditto and each baby boar seperatly obviously in a run on the lawn with ditto and she left them for half hour each. To be honest they just sniffed eachother and carried on munching grass as they were distracted. She did warn me of signs to look out for and said they may have a few tiffs sorting out pecking order etc but i just wanted to double check with everyone on here to that what i was witnessing was fine. Well from what i have told you there doing do you think this pait will be sucessful? I was torn between this baby piggy and the rex baby to be honest but picked this piggy now named skitts because hes skitsy due to his unusual colouring and eyes and the lady said they seemed fine and it was a good sign. Now I'm thinking did i make the right choice and should i have had the rex? ... Do you think if i get them seperate bed areas igloos or something then they should be fine?
 
And yeah i cleaned out there cagr scrubbed with pet friendly disinfectant and put all fresh bedding in even there bowl etc was cleaned out . ..
 
Its difficult to say whether it will be successful just yet but the behaviour sounds normal, it may take time to settle down. It may also start up again when they go through their teenage hormone stage- anywhere from 3 months to 15 months. I always say only seperate if there is blood shed. Sometimes it can look worrying to us but its something they need to work out for themselves.

How big is the cage?
 
There in the ferplast 120 i think its huge.. The baby who is 12 weeks has started showing teeth and raising its head at ditto my 3 year old... It is like folowing him around chattering its teeth at him ditto keeps ignoring it.. Baby seems to be doing it when dittos eating so I'm now worried that as the baby wont allow ditto into sleeping area its trying to bully him away from food to.. And if it does it now as a little pig when its fully grown I'm scared its only going to get worse. Advice pls
 
If it were me, I'd remove the baby and put him in another cage next to your Ditto for a week or so. Then re introduce them gradually and properly on neutral ground. People may disagree but I imagine the car travel would have caused them to forget any bond they'd had from that very short 30 mins!

I may be wrong however.. But it would be what I'd do!

Give bub a chance, he's probably just lonely and shaken up from travel!

Also. I have 2 abys, one is the most playful happy talkative girl and the other is a laid back cuddly snugglepot, they're not wild in the slightest :) very lively, but not wild :)
 
I think the baby oving to a new home and being put in a cage with a piggie he does know could be really stressing him out.

I really think you should put baby piggie in his own cage and give him a couple of weeks to settle in then slowly start introducing the 2.

It will take baby piggie to settle in and get use to the new sounds and smells around him. Keep giving him fresh veg but each day hold the veg in his cage for longer each time. Eventually he will start taking it from you. The same with taming, talking to him all the time and each time * go by him put your hand in his cage and let him smell you or even lick you if he's a licker drool
 
Thats the problem he wnt let me anywhere near him ... *** even hold out some cartot for him without him running around cage like a mad man x
 
Lil-Ninnibig said:
Thats the problem he wnt let me anywhere near him ... *** even hold out some cartot for him without him running around cage like a mad man x
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Thats perfectly normal. I didnt see Fang for about 3 weeks when I 1st had him, all he did was hide. I actually got quite worried that he wasnt eating or drinking but I kept sneaking up on him and catching him snatching food out of his dish.
Even now he runs off and wont let me stroke him :0
 
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