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please help me make a decision :(

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I am really upset for my poor boy.
As you all know he had dental surgery 10 days ago due to maciclussion.
I thought he was doing fine, but these last few days he just looks really sad and depressed, he stays in the same place in his cage. His eye also isnt clearing up and I'm thinking he could have elongated roots which is effecting his eye. It looks really sore and keeps weeping and hes loosing his fur under his eye:/
Also I just checked his front teeth and they have grown back very long just 10 days after his dental surgery. He has a very disformed jaw, his teeth dont match up the slightest. He wont evan attempt to eat any veggies or grass because he *** grip them:(
I really don't know what to do now, I'm starting to loose hope on my boy:(
I know the vet can offer pain killers and antibiotics for him but its not fair for him to deal with this. He just looks fed up and its depressing me. he lives on his own to and I dont think life is goin to be best for him much longer. Please help :(!
 
I am sorry to read this and I didn't want to read and run.

You have some very difficult decisions to make. We had to make a similar choice with our first piggie Pitch, she had problems with her teeth roots that couldn't be corrected - we syringe fed her and she was on pain killers until she was unhappy and no longer wanted to eat her syringe food then we made the difficult decision to euthanase. It was heartbreaking but I don't regret doing it when we did it was better than seeing her miserable and in pain.

You need to speak to your vet and make a decision, you also need pain killers if he isn't on any as a piggie in pain wont eat. Are you sryinge feeding him? What is his weight like?
 
Aw honey, i was in the same place last year, and almost gave up o my boy (because he looked very sad and i though tit would be the best and kindest thing for him) I am so glad i didnt! I carried on with the around the clock syringe feeding, vet trips and he is now the picture of health. It is very hard, distressing and emotionally draining, but you can both do it!

Maybe pop Debbie (furryfriends) a quick message, she is expert in this fiend and will be able to advise the best cause of action.

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Toffeewoffee said:
Aw honey, i was in the same place last year, and almost gave up o my boy (because he looked very sad and i though tit would be the best and kindest thing for him) I am so glad i didnt! I carried on with the around the clock syringe feeding, vet trips and he is now the picture of health. It is very hard, distressing and emotionally draining, but you can both do it!

Maybe pop Debbie (furryfriends) a quick message, she is expert in this fiend and will be able to advise the best cause of action.

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Unfortunately Debbie isn't around at the moment and can't reply to any messages I am afraid x
 
He eats pellet mush on his own but struggles and his weight is 520 grams.
 
I am sorry that you are going through this :(

I guess ultimately the decision must be your own and you must weigh up the pros and cons but if he were my guinea pig, I would look at his quality of life and have a good chat with your vet asking for compete honesty. A vet can never tell you to have an animal PTS (unless a dog has injured someone and is deemed dangerous) just advise. Most good vets will not PTS unless they feel the animal is truly suffering and has no quality of life.

Thinking of you x
 
I am so sorry to hear that you're going through this... it is so hard.

The only thing I can advise is to look at some pain relief in the short term.... one of my piggies had some surgery last year (not on his teeth, but he was still very uncomfortable) - he was fine while the vets pain killer was in his system but as soon as it wore off he went downhill, looking depressed and not eating. I got some Metacalm from the vet and within an hour he was perking up. We all know what toothache feels like so maybe it could just be the pain that is getting him down.

I truly believe that you know when the only thing to do is to PTS, even if its an awful thing to decide. You will know in your heart if and when its his time... sending hugs.. Good luck
 
I am sorry you are in this position, first of all he needs pain relief as soon as possible. Like others have said I think you need to look at his quality of life. If it were my pig and he was that miserable I would have a discussion with my vet.
 
A update on my boy..
He went to the vets today and is on pain relief as vet said his teeth **** causing him discomfort. .
Also he had a eye stain to try to find the problem in his eye.. and no ulcer thank god! Vet said she couldnt see any reason why his eye was like this apart from his teeth causin his eye to irritate due to his maciclussion.. so hes on a ointment which should sooth it.
Yes hes underweight which I was abit shocked about as he has been eating his pellet mush.. but vet said if he is in pain he wont eat as much as he should be, so hopefully the metacam works.
He is going under a light anesthetic on wednesday to check his teeth again.. and if they have overgrown we know it is going to be a fortnightly thing to hsve dental surgery..
So all fingurers crossed for my boy. It is still 50/50 at the moment. . Vet said he should perk up on the pain relief, but obviously if he dosnt and still wont eat as much then thats how we will know then to make a decision.
 
Fingers crossed he perks up and the pain killers make him feel better etc. Sending lots of gentle and healing cuddles his way :)
 
Thankyou. Means alot! Been trying so hard for him.. £200 later x
 
Fingers firmly crossed; you are doing your best for him! Please weigh him daily to control the food intake and keep trying to hand feed him as much and as often as you can. Little but often round the clock works better with piggies what are very ill and in pain. As he hasn't been chewing much in the meantime, his teeth will be worse. it can well be that his roots can cause the eye problem; it may also be an abscess. Perhaps a quick x-ray while he is under will answer that question; it may bring part of the answer as to how far to take him. I am very sorry that Debbie is currently unable to help you.
 
Sorry to hear your little guy is struggling. You are absolutely doing your best and it sounds like your vet is doing their utmost too.

It is worth getting an x-ray like wiebke says, it may not change treatment but it will conclusively tell your vet what his roots look like and if they are likely to be causing his eye problems. My vet would recommend this for any piggy undergoing regular dental work as often the visible problem is also part of a bigger problem in the teeth.

For your little guy the malocclusion makes eating difficult anyway and the harder it is to eat the less he will take on food, this in turn stops his teeth from wearing down effectively and starts a vicious circle. It also makes his weight hard to maintain and being low in weight/condition makes them more susceptible to other infections and problems.

I hope the metacam helps him feel more comfortable and then hopefully eat a bit more but at the moment all I can suggest is keep fingers and paws crossed. If things get dire then you will know when it is the right thing to let him go. Unfortunately sometimes that is the last and most loving thing we can do for our little furry friends.
 
Thanks so much for your concern x
He eats pellet mush fine so luckily I dont have to syringe feed him. But vet recommends I give small portions little and often so I can monitor how much he is taking in. As before I was putin loads down for him, I kbow he was eating it but couldnt quite work out how much he was taking in..
I might consider an xray for his eye, but it dosnt look bad enough to be a abcess. It has cleared up alot. His eye just seeps now and again, my vet thinks its due to discomfort or psin from his teeth.
We are going to make the hard decision on Wednesday wen he gets put under after finalizing how bad the outcome is. The vet told me wen he was put under last time he had the worse case of misaligned teeth she has saw:(
But if it is just dental surgery he needs now and again I dont mind.. the outcome souly arises down to if he can eat enough to gain weight.. I did read up thst in some piggys it can take a few weeks for them to get used to eating properly again.. I'm hoping his surgery on wednesday is more successful than the last. I'm not sayin the vets didnt do a good job, but I'm sure they cut his front teeth to short last time :/ evan tho his teeth are geting long again he seems to have more grip now, as he didnt a few days after surgery.
To be honest he looks abit more perkier since his dose if metacam at 4 oclock..
Does anyone know the time gap between doses by the way?
 
I've had a piggy with a similar problem, and metacam was a godsend for her. If you go through my Liquorice threads, you'll see what we went through. Her demise wasn't down to her eye issues, but an unfortunate horrible accident, which has left a huge hole in my life, and I still miss her very much to this day/
 
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