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hi can some 1 help me PLEASE

i have had a few pigs and i dont no what to do i had 2 boys but hay started fighting so i gave 1 to a mate who has a few and his is now happy but mine was lonely so i goT him a mate a girl and all was good for about 5 months and i thought thaT she was going to have babys as she didnt come to me and she just layed in he cage so i took her out and put her on her own as i was thinking she would have the babys but she became flopy and sadly died a hour later she was about 8 months old so i got him yet a new mate as he was lonley she is lovely but this is where it all starts thay was fine i have had her for about 6 weeks and thay was allways together but saldy the male lost a lot of wate in a few days i took him to the vet and he had a booster and she gave me baytrill to give him but hedidnt get better i forced fed him did every thing i could but died the next day and now the girl that i have just got for him isnt lookin that good

she was ok when the vet looked at her the same time as the male and she told me to give het the baytrill to her as well as him wich i have done since friday but she is now haveing sloopy poo doesnt want to eat or drink so i am force feeding her i have got some recovery food and she is eating just a bit of that but not a lot she has lost a bit of wight and every day it keeps going down she sits with me and puts her nose to my skin and she is now makeinga little noise when she is breathing out of her nose i am now speening a large amout of my day with ger in a cover antd with me so she doesnt get lonely but she is just lieing there not doing much she keeps laying on me i think its cozs she did it with the male to keep warm i have been on the net and it says that the baytrill can make your pig not eat ad drink and have the sloopy poo and less active so should i stop giveing it to her

i no that thay are best off in 2 or more but i dont want to get a new one for her if she will make her new mate ill
or is she just so sad about her mate dieing she wont eat and the baytrill has made her like this

and i cant keep takeing her to the vet as it cost £50 last time and he had all the help and he still died

please some one tell me what to do can anyone help
i dont want this one to die
 
i cant offer much medical advice as i dont have much experience with poorly pigs *touch wood*.

But from what i gather you are putting fertile different sex gps together. do * intend to breed them? although pregnancy is natural its not always healthy for your females. It can actually can be quite dangerous.

i dont know what to suggest, you are right they do prefer to have company but not when they are breeding.

I'm sorry i cant offer any more advice, and I'm not having a go at you, but your first mistake was putting them together without being neutered.

can you give us some more info about their diet and lifestyle?

indoors or outdoors?
hutch size?
hay? and how much?
water?
pellets?
what veg?
etc etc
 
Hiya the syringe feeding and water are the main thing you need to do. when using baytrill you need to give probiotics unfortunately a lot of vets are not very piggy savvy and tend to just prescribe Baytril for most things. Do you have any pain relief? how much food are you getting into your piggie? Dioralyte can be used as a rehydration solution for the piggies too. Also intentionally breeding piggies is not discussed on the forum and can be very risky. the best friend for your piggie would be another female or a neutered boar
 
oh no poor you, sounds like you are having a hard time.

Maybe you could get a probiotic and syringe feed it as much as piggy will take, it with balance out the stomach as the Baytril is very harsh on them.

I hope you get loads and loads of advice, it sounds like you are going to need it.

Good luck x
 
also if your girl is pregenant which is quite possible se may be suffering fro toxemia. does she have a 'pear drop' /acetone smell from her breath? you need to get her to a piggie savy vet asap. there is a reccomended vets post in the care reference section please look on there. also if you google the guinea pig helpline there is a number you can call for Laura and she shoul;d be able to help more
 
hi was going to let them have i set of babys and that was it i was going to keep 2 female a male and get them spade and i had homes all ready for them

i never was going to sell them are become a breader
thay was out side but now its getting cold so i brung them in so thay was in a
cage inside it is a large one she has hay fom pets at home i give her some on the floor of her cage and whereshe sleeps to maker her feel litle some one is there i have tryed her with all diffront veg dryed food from the pet shop and apples and bananas

i have moved her in to a smaler cage just for her so it doent seam so empty with out the male

she has water out os a water bottle wich get canged very few days

hope this helps
 
pudding said:
hi was going to let them have i set of babys and that was it i was going to keep 2 female a male and get them spade and i had homes all ready for them

i never was going to sell them are become a breader
thay was out side but now its getting cold so i brung them in so thay was in a
cage inside it is a large one she has hay fom pets at home i give her some on the floor of her cage and whereshe sleeps to maker her feel litle some one is there i have tryed her with all diffront veg dryed food from the pet shop and apples and bananas

i have moved her in to a smaler cage just for her so it doent seam so empty with out the male

she has water out os a water bottle wich get canged very few days

hope this helps
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Ok main thing is to get her better first but spaying a girl is very risky too. anyhow we can sort all that out later. :) they do get lonely but I don't think it would make her this poorly and if she has a respiratory infection a buddy can make it worse and she is likely to pass it on so don't worry about a friend just yet.
please can you let me know:

how many mls of recovery food are you getting into her and what type?
How much water is she drinking on her own?
What doseage of Baytril is she on?
what noise is she making when she breathes, is it a 'crackling' sound?
Does she have a runny nose?
 
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she is on 0.2 with 0.2 of ribena whe i took them to he vet she didnt tell me anything just give baytrill and said that if he isnt better in a few days then come back and we will put him to sleep

it was when we rand a vet up last night thay told us about the recovery and be for i could mix it up and give it to her she had her face in it eating it and i was happy thing she was getting better

but now she is sweeking when breathing not all te time but alot of the time
 
she is a silkie one i think she has long aie at the front and she has a smooth coat at the back

she is haveing a little bit of water on her own but not that much but i gan sometimes get 2 or 3 2.5 down her and as for her recovery 0 to anything up to 1.5 to 2
 
Cgilchrist said:
if you google the guinea pig helpline there is a number you can call for Laura and she shoul;d be able to help more
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You are getting good advice on here but I'd also suggest phoning the guinea pig helpline, as well, for more help - contact details can be found here:
http://guineapighelpline.com/phone.html

Laura's very friendly and helpful x
 
ok excellent it is brilliant that she is eating it without the syringe just keep giving her as much as she will eat.but she needs to be having around 50-100 ml a day if she is not eating at all to keep her going so I would make it up in a syrine so you can make sure she is eating enough. sorry to say your vet sounds not at all pigge savy I'm afraid. I am not a vet or qualified in anyway but it does sound a bit like a possible respiratory infection 2 of my boys were the same.
You need to find some Avipro Plus, Pro C or other probiotic there are a few others but I am not sure of the make. you can get the probiotic at pets at home and most vets will also stock it. this is very important as the antibiotics (Baytril) are needed to handle the infection but it will also kill off the good bacteria in her gut which aids digestion so the probiotics are very important. Try not to give her too much wet veg if she is drinking ok she needs vitamin. If she is possible pregenant you need to avoid parsley as this can trigger premature labour. What is the make of food you give her? it can also help if you soak the food nuggets in water for her. I think you also need to get some Metacam pain killer/anti-inflamatory from the vet as if she is in discomfort it can effect her appetite
 
pudding said:
she is a silkie one i think she has long aie at the front and she has a smooth coat at the back

she is haveing a little bit of water on her own but not that much but i gan sometimes get 2 or 3 2.5 down her and as for her recovery 0 to anything up to 1.5 to 2
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Ok sorry I meant what type of recovery food is is science recovery or Critical Care? Better to try to feed up to 5 -10 ml a time of recovery every 2-3 hrs. give laura a call she is great.
 
Do you know if your Vet is very experienced with guinea pigs (you'd imagine that all vets are but unfortunately they're not always and they don't usually have much training specifically about piggies)

It'd be a good idea to get a second opinion from a Vet who is recommended especially for guineas. There might be others here from Hull, who can advise you, or you could perhaps even ask a local rescue which Vets they use (Looking at their website, it looks like Hull Animal Welfare has a lady called Linda who looks after the small animals and can be contacted on 07903 884 092. I'd ask her if she knows which Vets are best with guineas.)

In the meantime, if you have any olbas oil or Vicks vapour rub at home, this might help ease the breathing. You can put a little on a tissue or in a bowl of water and leave this next to her cage (where she can smell it but not get to it).

As cglichrist says, getting enough food and fluids into her is extremely important but I also wouldn't give her any veg for a while, while her poo is so soft, as long as she's eating the recovery food you're giving her.
 
i think that she will die as new she cant stand she keeps falling on her side and she is breathing faster then she was she wont take any food or water it just keeps comeing out of her mouth

can anyone tell me how or where she could of got this from ?
 
I'm not sure whats wrong with her but think you really need to get her back to a vets as she sounds very poorly.
 
I'm sorry she's getting much worse, all of a sudden. She does sound very poorly indeed and much worse than before. If she won't swallow then definitely don't force her as it can cause problems if her food goes down 'the wrong way'.

Just keep her warm. Maybe wrap her in a fleece blanket or something similar and give her gentle cuddles.

She's definitely seriously poorly so it's hard to say whether or not the Vets would be able to do anything for her but you could always try, you never know. If you do know of a good piggy vet then I'd definitely take her there urgently but I think any Vet would be better than no Vet if she's as poorly as she sounds.
 
can you give us a few more details please
housing, what type (plastic or wooden hutch?)
indoors or outdoors?
do they have access to your lawn/grass/outside earth?
what do you feed them (mixed pellets, hay, grass, plain pellets, fruit, veg?)
how old is the food you give them? where and how do you store it?
if they have access to outdoors, what kind of plants do you have growing there, if you dont know the names, pictures will do, we can id them from here.

it sounds a bit like some sort of poisoning to me, maybe moudly food or access to a plant they shouldnt eat.....the timeline between first piggy getting sick and last piggy getting sick seems too long to be a disease of sorts.....
 
hi thay have been in side so cant eat anything thay shouldnt and i get the little bag of food so that its fressh all the time the same as the hay but thats from pets at home
 
Maybe it's some kind of cleaning product you use round the house that has got onto their food somehow? Or do you have any other pets that could have brought something in?

Either way we can't see your piggie and whilst you've had some very good advice on here we can only speculate as to what it could be. You really need to get her to a vets ASAP as they can see her and evaluate her better than we can over the internet.
 
**Is there a mod that can move this to health so that more people who see it and know the urgency.**

I'm just across the Humber in Barton, my local vets use Vets Now in Hull for there out of hours calls http://www.bartonveterinary.co.uk/bartonvetsoutofhours.html

If money is an issue there is a Blue Cross hospital in Grimsby, I'm not sure how Cavy Savvy they are and you would need to get there.

I really think you need to get back to a vet ASAP

Have you contacted the helpline? Laura is very helpful.

*vibes for the piggy*
 
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Sadly she has died i was giveing her a cuddle and she went to sleep
i dont no what more i could of done and even going to a vet today would of helped as i went last night to see one

so thank you all for helping and telling me things and sadly i wont be getting any more pigs as i cant keep them

so now i will have to go put her in the ground with her mate
 
I just wanted to say thank you for trying to help and i did ring laura and she tryed to help so thanks for telling me about her
 
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