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Possible cyst

PeggyAndBettysMum

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I think Peggy May have a cyst. I’m taking her to the vets today. It’s hard for me to check her as she is still so skittish and squeals and panics iF I attempt to pick her up. I’ve noticed she’s lost weight and thought it may be because their dominance seems to have shifted but at the weekend, I was able to get her and attempt to trim her nails. She has lost quite a considerable amount of weight, lost hair from both her sides and is extra moody strutting around and squeals when picked up more than usual. my question is, if I am able to choose a hysterectomy (or what treatment they offer) would this affect her relationship with Betty (because she wouldn’t have seasons?)
It’s so hard with them being ex breeding piggies to handle them well without stressing them out too much!
Wish me luck 😢
 
Best of luck, I havent experienced ovarian cysts myself but the symptoms sound like they could fit that diagnosis- your vet can advise best if this is the case, and if a spay or hormone injections are the best treatment. I will tag in @Wiebke @Merab's Slave and @Emx93 who I know all have experience of spaying and cysts x
 
Best of luck, I havent experienced ovarian cysts myself but the symptoms sound like they could fit that diagnosis- your vet can advise best if this is the case, and if a spay or hormone injections are the best treatment. I will tag in @Wiebke @Merab's Slave and @Emx93 who I know all have experience of spaying and cysts x
Hi, my girlie's didn't have any actual cysts but had all the excessive hormonal behaviour that disrupted bonds and so I spayed them so they could live happily with a friend. Both are much calmer and happier now 😊 fluffy was never accepted back but lives very calmly with her new friend (the bond broke beyond repair before the spay fluffy was very aggressive) she had a full spay and recovery was tough. Nugget had an ovariectomy which is keyhole surgery to just remove the ovaries, it is much less invasive and she did much better afterwards, if you do go for a spay and you can get to a vet that does ovariectomies I would reconmend this! There was some disruption and dominance shifts between nugget and marshmallow post spay but this settled down after a couple of weeks. The best thing to do is contact your vet, book your girlie in for a hands on examination and go from there! Before I asked about an ovariectomy my vet hadn't done one but she practiced on two of her own pigs and then did nugget, I trusted her fully 😁
 
I think Peggy May have a cyst. I’m taking her to the vets today. It’s hard for me to check her as she is still so skittish and squeals and panics iF I attempt to pick her up. I’ve noticed she’s lost weight and thought it may be because their dominance seems to have shifted but at the weekend, I was able to get her and attempt to trim her nails. She has lost quite a considerable amount of weight, lost hair from both her sides and is extra moody strutting around and squeals when picked up more than usual. my question is, if I am able to choose a hysterectomy (or what treatment they offer) would this affect her relationship with Betty (because she wouldn’t have seasons?)
It’s so hard with them being ex breeding piggies to handle them well without stressing them out too much!
Wish me luck 😢

Hi!

Having and having had a fair number of piggies born to stressed out mothers and living with a high stress level as their 'normal', I know what you mean!

A spaying operation is not going to impact on the relationship, whether just one sow or eventually both are spayed. Except that the operated sow is no longer as moody and the pair are back to normal.

Here is our information on ovarian cysts and possible treatment options: Sows: Behaviour and female health problems (including ovarian cysts)
Our post-op home care guide: Tips For Post-operative Care

Hafren (2011-19) and Iola (2011-18) - Partners in crime 2015-18:
I adopted Hafren already spayed in 2012 from a now defunct rescue with a total spaying/neutering policy, she bonded with bereaved Iola in 2015 over a shared outlook on life; I nicknamed them my Two Fat Ladies. In 2017 Iola also required a spaying operation for very fast growing large cysts. Apart from some domince rumblestrutting and mounting from Hafren to test the hierarchy shortly after the operation, there was no change in their relationship.
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Nesta (2011-17) and Nerys (2008-16)
I adopted Nesta spayed together with Hafren from the same rescue. After the split of my big Tribe group which Nesta and Hafren had been part of, socially awkward Nesta teamed up with her unrelated lookalike Nerys who she seemed to regard in the light of an auntie. The Terrible Teddies were quite a memorable pair. The fact that Nesta was spayed didn't impact at any stage.
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Cariad (ca. 2009-14) (The long-haired one on the left)
Very skittish ex-breeder sow and not very bright but living up to her Welsh name (which means Darling), has always lived in groups; at the breeders, then in the big Tribe until 2012 and lastly in the Pensioners group (2012-14). The picture is from 2014, nearly a year after her emergency spay in 2013, caused by her womb gone badly wrong with a nasty ovarian cyst thrown in only months after a major bladder stone operation.
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Cariad on the morning after her operation with neutered boar Bryn as her 'paw-holding' companion and with her operation scar.
Amazingly and despite only weighing 700g, she sailed through her operation and never lost more than 30g - the weight of her womb and cysts. She was back with her group within 2 days as soon as I was sure that she was able to hold her weight without any further support from me.
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Sisters Mererid and Morwenna (2014- )
Morwenna on the right needed a spaying operation for a hard cyst that would turn cancerous if left in last June and her sister Mererid joined her in September as an emergency spay when her non-hormonal fluid filled cysts started growing very quickly.
No change in their behaviour or relationship.
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A spaying operation is nevertheless a major operation. At the moment, risks and benefits are about balanced, which is why people are increasingly looking at alternative options. Especially as large ovarian cysts are more of a problem in older sows. The hormonally active ones that are more typically plaguing 2-4 year old sows tend to be smaller cysts.
 
Thankyou ❤️ @Wiebke what gorgeous girls 😍
I turned into a sobbing mess at the vets but asked as many questions as I could.
They confirmed she had lost a lot of weight and her hair was definitely shedding on her flanks.
Everything is fine with her other than moodiness, weight loss and her fur. No pain, eyes fine, eating well etc
After a second opinion from head vet, I’ve got her booked in for an ultrasound on Saturday as they thought they could feel a small lump.
I became super emotional then as they pretty much said that they couldn’t determine her age and surgery could be too much of a risk.
So, scan and X-ray on Saturday and depending on the results, they will seek advice from the exotic pet vet.
I’m sure that’s what they said, does this sound about right?
 
Thankyou ❤ @Wiebke what gorgeous girls 😍
I turned into a sobbing mess at the vets but asked as many questions as I could.
They confirmed she had lost a lot of weight and her hair was definitely shedding on her flanks.
Everything is fine with her other than moodiness, weight loss and her fur. No pain, eyes fine, eating well etc
After a second opinion from head vet, I’ve got her booked in for an ultrasound on Saturday as they thought they could feel a small lump.
I became super emotional then as they pretty much said that they couldn’t determine her age and surgery could be too much of a risk.
So, scan and X-ray on Saturday and depending on the results, they will seek advice from the exotic pet vet.
I’m sure that’s what they said, does this sound about right?

That sounds sensible to me!
All the best!

PS: I know that I am very lucky in that I have access to a very piggy savvy vet, which makes all the difference; but Cariad was 4 years old and Iola, Mererid and Morwenna were all 5 years old when they were spayed.
Hafren needed an emergency operation for a large burst cyst (which promptly did the runaway growing and bursting while above mentioned vet was on their summer holiday) just a month before her 7th birthday. But your vet has to feel OK with what they are doing.
 
I’ve had 2 sows spayed due to ovarian cysts - Jemimah was well over 3 and Phoebe about 2.
Jemimah’s was an emergency spay. Both girls came through with no problems.
So much does depend on the vet and I was lucky in having an excellent vet and vet hospital nearby.

Your vet sounds very sensible and it’s good to be cautious.
Holding you in my heart - it’s a difficult time for a slave
 
Poor Peggy! After everything she has already gone through before she came to me, I’m hoping for some good news for her. Thank you so much for all your reassurance and positive stories ❤️
 
one of my rainbow bridge girls Ellie had an ovarian cyst, she kept getting recurring UTI's that cleared up with Baytril, then would come back soon after the dose had finished each time, she had really bad genital bleeding, but none of the classic signs of ovarian cysts (hair thinning, crusty nipples, major hormone moments).

The vet wanted to investigate as she didn't like over use of antibiotics, Ellie had an ultrasound scan & the vet found a walnut sized cyst. The vet then said that as she was 6yrs old & guineas don't react well to anaesthetic she should just have palliative care as she wasn't prepared to risk operating on her :(
(my vet isn't an exotics vet & doesn't see all that many Guineas generally, so i think she was erring on the side of caution).

I suggested the HCG Chorulon injections & the vet said she was happy to investigate the option. the vet then telephoned the manufacturer for advice whilst i was there & ordered in the HCG vials (some vets charge around £60 per injection, but my vets are a large rural practice so i was charged less than £50 for the set of 2 - yeay!).

basically she had 2 injections in her rump, that were 7-10 days apart, the HCG is a cattle hormone & not licensed for use on guineas, so i had to sign a disclaimer, there seems to be very little information on any negative side affects & they seem to generally either work or they don't!

Ellie's bleeding stopped within a day or two & she never had any more bleeds afterwards, :D
the cyst reduced significantly in size & couldn't be felt after a few weeks. her coat was smooth & shiny. Also her mood was far more chilled & amiable, although she wasn't particularly hormonal before, but it certainly made a difference.

The two injections lasted for about 12months & then she had another 2 injections which lasted her until i lost her from multiple health issues aged 8yrs.

Some cysts don't seem to react or improve with the injections, according to the type of cyst it is. But the injections certainly worked for Ellie, they gave me an extra 2yrs of happy, healthy generally, cuddle time with her.

Ask your vet for advice on the injections if they are not happy doing a full spay or ovarectomy.

Good luck & healing vibes being sent your way.
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@GPTV thats brilliant! 😍 And so lovely that Ellie was able to get well.
Thank you so much for your post. I have screenshot it (on my phone) so I can discuss it with the vet on Saturday.

Are these injections quite common for Exotic animal vets to do or is it a new thing across the board?
 
I think the injections have been used in cattle for a long time, but it's a more recent thing with guineas, Ellie had her first set of injections in approx 2014/ 2015.

I'll check the dates for sure later for you if you like?
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If they do decide its the type of cyst that can be treated with the HCG Chorulon injections & your vet wants to charge an extortionate price per injection (vials I had were cattle sized doses & after the dose was worked out for Ellie the rest was discarded). Discuss with the vet these vials Chorulon
See if they are suitable, the same dosage strength, etc. as the vet would supply, they are only available on prescription, so your vet will probably charge to write a prescription (mine charged £15) but then you could buy off of the Internet for a much reduced price, possibly getting it delivered to your vets for safe keeping/storage. Your vets would know it hadn't been tampered with that way too.

I have used Viovet on numerous occasions and find them very reliable & for some things a lot cheaper. The HCG Chorulon vials aren't available from many websites, but have a little shop around :)
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This is really helpful! Thankyou for this information. I will ask about all of this tomorrow and hopefully, it will be a good outcome.
I have to drop her off at 9am and will be collecting her later in the day, do you know if the vet will discuss my options with me then or will I have to make another appointment?
My nerves are all over the place, I was up at 5:30 this morning cutting grass in the rain and trying to spoil them as much as I could!
I haven’t had them long but because of the life they had before, I want her to live her remaining years all happy and with everything she could wish for! Thankyou for this!
 
Does this look like blood to anyone? They’ve eaten some purple type leaves so possibly that?
 

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Good news! No cysts, all her organs look fine: bladder, liver etc
No sign of infection, temp normal and no signs of pain.
She’s got some syringe feeding stuff, is that the critical care food?
Vet thinks it could be down to all the stress and adjustment from all the moving she’s done and different environment (even though it’s a million miles better than what she had! We all know how sensitive they are!) or an issue with her hormones (I think he mentioned her adrenal gland?) as obviously she has had multiple pregnancies. He’s confident she will settle down in time.
So now I can breeeeathe 🌬🌬🌬
Just got to try and fatten her up! 💕
Wonderful news!
 
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