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Recovering From Surgery

Hi! Sorry, most of us are UK members and you have been posting during our night hours. Dratted time difference!

It is a difficult one to call. Something major is clearly going on that is causing the gassing and her lethargy, but it is also quite obviously something that is not easy to find and to diagnose. :(

It is tough when you have to make the kind of choice you are currently faced with - do you risk an operation in her weak state to address the potential cause of her problems or do you leave it be and concentrate on quality of life for Jellybean for as long as she has to live?

There is no right or wrong decision in these situations - what is important is that Jellybean's wellbeing is paramount for you and that you make the decision that you feel you can live with better in the long term. If Jellybean's concerns come first in your considerations, then you are not failing her whichever way you go from here.
There are unfortunately grey areas where any decisions are not clear cut; you are in one of them. It is extremely hard when it is you yourself who has to call the shots about how much you want to put your beloved piggy through. :(

We cannot tell what you should do; but we can send you our thoughts. You are a very loving and caring owner. Jellybean is loved and treasured, and she knows that!

I have gone either way with different piggies of mine, depending on the individual circumstances. I have lost piggies in make-or-break operations that were a last ditch effort; others have made it and have enjoyed some more time. I have also let guinea pigs live out their life in those cases whether the success rate for an operation was less than favourable or where the operation itself could have caused more problems than it would have solved.
None of these options is easier or less heart-breaking for you in my experience. Whatever you choose has to be right in your guts and at the bottom of your heart. :(

PS: Your local desert climate can make any respiratory issues worse. Could you please try to humidify the air to help ease her breathing. It is likely that her immune system is somewhat lowered so secondary problems can start cropping up.
Lethargy can in my experience usually come from lack of food or from the heart being affected, especially when the lungs are clear. But without knowing the cause of her issues, all I can do is guess as much as you do! It is the lethargy that worries me more. :(

BIG HUGS



Miss Jellybean is improving more and more each day. She's even starting to want her veggies. I'm still not giving her a lot but she's eating what I give her. She's eating her hay also. The only thing she's not really wanting is her pellets so I still have her taking critical care twice a day. Friday will be her last dose of her pain medicine and her staple is coming out also. I can only hope she contines to improve. She went in weighing 2.7 pounds a week ago when she had surgery and now she weighs 2.2 pounds now. The vet said not to be concerned because she had extra eight due to the gas and food that she had in her stomach at the time. So her losing some weight is actually a good thing? I'l be sure to have her weighed tomorrow. She's producing fecal pellets, they are still a bit small but again she's not eating quite as much as she did before. But it's impoved a lot.
 
Glad to hear Jellybean is improving. I know how draining it will be for you nursing a poorly guinea pig. They seem to go down ill so quickly but take a lot longer to recover. But providing the correct care is so important for the recovery to continue. So you are obviously doing a great job at caring.
 
So pleased to hear that Jellybean is improving.
Still holding you in my thoughts.
Take care of yourself as well as Jellybean and thanks for the update.
 
Miss Jellybean is improving more and more each day. She's even starting to want her veggies. I'm still not giving her a lot but she's eating what I give her. She's eating her hay also. The only thing she's not really wanting is her pellets so I still have her taking critical care twice a day. Friday will be her last dose of her pain medicine and her staple is coming out also. I can only hope she contines to improve. She went in weighing 2.7 pounds a week ago when she had surgery and now she weighs 2.2 pounds now. The vet said not to be concerned because she had extra eight due to the gas and food that she had in her stomach at the time. So her losing some weight is actually a good thing? I'l be sure to have her weighed tomorrow. She's producing fecal pellets, they are still a bit small but again she's not eating quite as much as she did before. But it's impoved a lot.

Please don't worry about her weight. She is still over a kilo and nowhere near any dangerously low levels. A fair bit of her lost weight is gas.

Once her body and her guts have fully settled down, she will start to regain weight again - you just have to be patient, as it can take a few weeks. She is doing extremely well for the stage she is at! Be proud! You are a very good and caring owner and are doing everything right. ;)
 
Please don't worry about her weight. She is still over a kilo and nowhere near any dangerously low levels. A fair bit of her lost weight is gas.

Once her body and her guts have fully settled down, she will start to regain weight again - you just have to be patient, as it can take a few weeks. She is doing extremely well for the stage she is at! Be proud! You are a very good and caring owner and are doing everything right. ;)


Thank you so much. Its nice to hear things like that. Especially when I feel like I'm not doing enough. She seems to be improving more each day. Producing more pellets and eating more. She's also back to eating her pellets. She's not wanting lettuce now, but she will munch on some bell pepper and wheat grass. Her tummy has really deflated. The staple is out and has healed nicely. The vet opted to have her taken off the pain medication and gi motility medication. So all she has left is the gas drops, the antibiotic and probiotic. Shes not in her normal cage as I'm trying to monitor her very closely and this cage is easier to move around if I need to take her with me to a different part of the house. I also got her this big playpen to see if she would play a bit and she kicked her ball around for awhile. So that's all good signs.

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So pleased to hear that Jellybean is doing so much better. You’re doing a great job of taking care of her. Keep going, as it sounds like you’re on the last stretch to full recovery! I’m sure both of you will be much happier when she is back to her normal self.

And thanks for posting the update photos. Jellybean is a real beauty.
 
Thank you so much. Its nice to hear things like that. Especially when I feel like I'm not doing enough. She seems to be improving more each day. Producing more pellets and eating more. She's also back to eating her pellets. She's not wanting lettuce now, but she will munch on some bell pepper and wheat grass. Her tummy has really deflated. The staple is out and has healed nicely. The vet opted to have her taken off the pain medication and gi motility medication. So all she has left is the gas drops, the antibiotic and probiotic. Shes not in her normal cage as I'm trying to monitor her very closely and this cage is easier to move around if I need to take her with me to a different part of the house. I also got her this big playpen to see if she would play a bit and she kicked her ball around for awhile. So that's all good signs.

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That is news! Please keep off lettuce; it can cause gassing. Consider small amounts of fresh herbs like cilantro (UK: coriander), parsley, dill, mint or basil to help her replenish minerals and vitamins. If you want to add more watery veg to the diet, celery stalk is a good one that is not likely to cause tummy upsets as lettuce or cucumber can with tender tummies.
 
That is news! Please keep off lettuce; it can cause gassing. Consider small amounts of fresh herbs like cilantro (UK: coriander), parsley, dill, mint or basil to help her replenish minerals and vitamins. If you want to add more watery veg to the diet, celery stalk is a good one that is not likely to cause tummy upsets as lettuce or cucumber can with tender tummies.

Ok I will skip the romaine lettuce. I had no idea it could cause gas. Should she never have that? She doesn't like cilantro anymore but she does like parsley. That's what I gave her this evening. With a bit of red bell pepper.
Her tummy really looks good. It's just weird seeing her deflated. She looks a lot healthier. Her eyes seem brighter also. Maybe it's just me but it looks like it. And she's also moving a lot faster. Like she feels good without all the extra weight.
 
So pleased to hear that Jellybean is doing so much better. You’re doing a great job of taking care of her. Keep going, as it sounds like you’re on the last stretch to full recovery! I’m sure both of you will be much happier when she is back to her normal self.

And thanks for posting the update photos. Jellybean is a real beauty.

You're very welcome. And thank you so much for your support. It means a lot to me.
 
Ok I will skip the romaine lettuce. I had no idea it could cause gas. Should she never have that? She doesn't like cilantro anymore but she does like parsley. That's what I gave her this evening. With a bit of red bell pepper.
Her tummy really looks good. It's just weird seeing her deflated. She looks a lot healthier. Her eyes seem brighter also. Maybe it's just me but it looks like it. And she's also moving a lot faster. Like she feels good without all the extra weight.

I would keep off lettuce if you notice a positive influence. It takes a long time after serious bloat for the digestive system to settle down. A diet without any trigger foods is recommended; this ideally includes grain-free pellets and no sweet corn, no root veg and no lettuce.
Look up our tips for a diabetes diet; they also hold for guinea pigs prone to bloating or a tender digestion.
Long Term Balanced General And Special Needs Guinea Pig Diet
 
I would keep off lettuce if you notice a positive influence. It takes a long time after serious bloat for the digestive system to settle down. A diet without any trigger foods is recommended; this ideally includes grain-free pellets and no sweet corn, no root veg and no lettuce.
Look up our tips for a diabetes diet; they also hold for guinea pigs prone to bloating or a tender digestion.
Long Term Balanced General And Special Needs Guinea Pig Diet

Update on Misses Jelly. She seems to be back to her normal self. I can't express how happy and thankful I am for all of your support. I felt scared and worried and all of you want above and beyond to offer supprt and guidance and I truly appreciate it. I only wish I knew more kind people. I wish I had people near me that understood our love for guinea pigs.
She finished all her medicine and I think she's very happy about that. She's running around playing and eating and drinking normally now. The gas drops are only as needed now. And I have her on a pretty strict diet now. Next weekend is her 4th birthday so I bought her some new treats. A couple new beds and a new water bottle. She loves her new lightning bed. I'm going to upload a picture so you can see it. ❤
 
Thank you for your update! It is always a joy to see an ill piggy happy and recovered again!

She's certainly a pampered lady and very happy about it! :love:
 
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