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Respiratory Infection And Eye Probs

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Sarahsazzle

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Hi I posts in the behaviour section initially but now I have an illness. So I had 2 guinea pigs and one died before Christmas so after a month or so I thought ginger biscuit was lonely and recommended advice is not to keep guinea pig on their own. Ginger came from a rescue when she was younger and never had any issues with her, now 3 and a half, she lives in an indoor cage with run of the spare room under supervision, good diet if veggies that are recommended on the guinealynx website and timothyhay and I give her burgess excel guinea pig nuggets.

So I decided best thing was to go back to the guinea pig rescue to get a similar aged guinea pig. So there was some general disagreements when they where introduced but nothing bad, and I realise now I probably didn't introduce them to each other correctly as I put them into the same cage together. But what's done is done, they are now separated because coconut the New Guinea pig after 2 days here developed an eye infection which I though ginger may have been making worse rubbing her face. Took her to vet and yes eye infection conjunctivitis given some fusivet eye drops. In addition on 2nd day noticed coconuts poos not quiet right but she seems a fussy pig compared to my pig who eats what she given! And coconut won't eat the nuggets so found out from the rescue they use muesli not keen on this but felt if she ate was better than nothing but she doesn't seem much bothered by the muesli either, but will eat green veggies and hay such as rocket spinach romain lettuce. Though the strange poos might be something's I do with change in diet stress etc, I did mention this to the vet who felt the same and it would settle. Also I trialled 24 hours without veggies, some better poos but not normal.

Anyway so she will have had a week eye drops tomorrow and the eye infection does not seem better also now my original pig ginger now has a sore eye even though they have been separated since the onset of symptoms. The New Guinea now also has new symptoms of what I would say is a cold snotty nose and grumbling when breathing sometimes, poos not really better, not drinking much and eating fresh veggies and hay not dry food.

I have read a bit about upper respiratory infection my concerns are about the treatment, I'm taking them to the vets again at 16.00 today, and how they will react to it will it make it all worse? Has my other piggy got it too as she now has the sore eye?

I have tried to contact the sanctuary to warn them but the owner doesn't seem to bothered. The pigs there are all ok she says,I am a bit upset I adopted a pig as thought this really was the right thing to do rather than go to a store and I've ended up with a very sick pig and costly bills and now my original pig is sick. They sanctuary seemed good and this might be a one off but I am aware the girls are kept in large numbers at the sanctuary. My vet also suggested that sometimes when they are kept in large numbers pack behaviour they are more resistant to bug then when she got to me the eye infection started.

Sorry it's a long thread I just want to do the right thing and after sadly loosing a piggy before Christmas was pretty upset now I'm worried this will happen all over again but with 2 pigs.
 
@Wiebke - guessed you may be able to advise with your monster gang or direct somebody who can to the thread :-)
 
Please take both back to the vets to have their eye problem sorted; they may need other eye drop and/or an antibiotic. Infections often have an incubation period. They could also be coming down with URI due to their lowered immune system.

We have got a piggy savvy vets locator on the top bar if you wish a second opinion, as well as a good standard rescues one. I am sorry that you had problems. The rescues we recommend all offer dating/bonding at the rescue to make sure that the new piggies get on; they also undergo mandatory quarantine upon arrival and a vet health check before being put up for adoption. Sadly, not every rescue is up to standard. I am sorry that you are having all those problems due to wanting to do the best for Ginger! :(
 
Thank you for your support/advice. The piggys are going this afternoon to the vets. I have looked at the vet locator unfortunately there are none in nottingham recommended! We have taken out cats to the same one for years and although I had some problems with a locum at this vets when my other guinea pig was ill before Christmas the main vet is excellent and did all she could for her! Unfortunately she was too ill and passed away.

I am also a nurse myself and have been trying to do my best with knowledge of human illness to care for them which is why I think your right and she has a uri!

I am surprised that this sanctuary isn't as good as I hoped because i found it through the local RSPCA!

Thanks again I will let you know the outcome of the vets visit later.
 
Unfortunately, RSPCA branches are run independently and not all are clued up about guinea pigs. We have included those RSPCA branches that have piggy savvy volunteers on our list. It is often rather tricky for us forum people to push rescue but avoid sending members to places where they may have a bad experience.

Best of luck with your vet trip! I hope that you can get on top soon and that your girls can settle down together happily!
 
I have to say I never realised all this about rescues and the RSPCA I am aware breeders and stores are bad places to get pets from and really thought I was doing the right thing, it's a shame more information isn't available.

I thought I did the right thing and never really had cause to use the internet to check up on guinea pigs until now so wouldn't have ever known!
 
Both breeders and rescues are sadly a large grey area - there is no official definition or control of standard for either, and anybody can unfortunately call themselves one. You can also find a whole mixture of breeders of varying standards who rehome piggies on the side, some neatly separated while for others "rescue" is just an outlet for getting rid of unwanted "stock". Sigh!

We try our best with the rescue locator; all these rescues are operating to a verified good standard and we can guarantee for them after some nasty experiences from members. It would be nice if things were easier!
 
So the vet feels it is uri and I have baytril antibiotics a pro biotic called bio lapis and for coconut the more poorly pig who's underweight supreme recovery food. Also to continue with fucithalmic eye ointment for both pigs of dear!

Anyone have any advice about giving any of these products? In which order etc. also she recommended some vitamin c powder too
 
Yes, those products are well known and your vet is pretty clued up in also prescribing both probiotics and hand feeding.

Fucithalmic is a standard ointment. I hope that it will clear the infection on top of the baytril. Baytril can cause loss of appetite and loose poos, apart from having the most appalling taste. I would recommend to syringe bio lapsis in a bit of water about an hour after the baytril for best effect.

Recovery food you make up according to the instructions. You feed it every few hours, as much a Coconut will take (usually between 10-20ml); if she doesn't like it, you can try mushed up pellets instead - in her case it is for topping up/preventing any more weight loss as she's not stopped eating completely. Use a 1ml syringe whose narrow tip you have cut off just before it widens, so the plunger can't come out; that makes the feeding a lot easier and by giving 1/2 ml in one go, you won't be in danger of things going down the wrong way. Please weigh your girls daily.
http://www.guinealynx.info/handfeeding.html
http://www.guinealynx.info/weigh.html
http://www.guinealynx.info/uri.html
http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/threads/faq-administering-medications-and-wrapping-piggies.36533/
http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/threads/advice-on-probiotics-and-critical-care.83055/
 
Thank you I have seen the guinea lynx things before but was a good reminder. Coconut wolfed down approx 10mls of the recovery food which is a good start. Am waiting for someone to come home to help with the antibiotics as I don't want to get in a mess a second pair of hands will come in useful!

Thanks for the advice!
 
Hi I'm pleased to say after a week of syringe feeding, antibiotics and probiotics both pigs are better but coconut the New Guinea is still underweight and fussy over food I think she may have a vitamin c deficiency having read some of the symptoms so I splashed out on oxbow daily c tablets thinking they write that guinea pigs take it like a treat but coconut wouldn't have it. I split into 4 and forced it into her mouth and she did take it eventually after much trauma to me and her! It's here any easier way can I dissolve and syringe feed this? As she is now quiet accepting (most of the time) of syringe feeding. A little confused as everywhere you read they say not to dissolve in water but if just a few mls d syringe it to her is this ok?
 
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