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Kira

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The vet wanted to do some tests on Jensen with him being the father of the babies and I'm so scared he'll get too stressed out with all the tests :(

Please can you send him some vibes

x
 
Is this to do with Cassie and the babies? Has the vet said what he hopes to get from the tests on Jensen, and what kind of tests?

Good luck. xx
 
sending hugs to you & Jenson what a brill name for a piggie x>>x)
 
Laura-CCC4 said:
Is this to do with Cassie and the babies? Has the vet said what he hopes to get from the tests on Jensen, and what kind of tests?

Good luck. xx
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Yes it is - I explained I didn't know about Jensen's history ect so he wants to run tests to see if he has some under laying problem that could have effected the babies and that he may need treatment for...The first thing the vet said is that he walks a bit funny and holds his head strange so I'm not to sure what that means....

He believes Cassie had a problem with her heart and that the birth of the babies just put too much strain on it and she was a ticking time bomb and the babies inherited to...but that's just his initial opinion/speculation still waiting for the offical lab results :( Which means if Jensen had problems the babies would have been very very sick...

It's mad I've been running around saying I've killed them and I'm a bad piggy mum when it could have been something I had no control over..

I really just want the lab results to hurry up and get back to us...
 
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You are not a bad mummy, and you know it! No bad piggy mummy would beat herself up the way you do; they would be too busy coming up with lame excuses about why they failed! But if you can get to the bottom of it, it will hopefully be good for your conscience and confidence.

It could well be some inherited defect; especially with Jensen involved. I thought that it would be one of the avenues to take into consideration.

The other is some kind of virus or infection, which affected the ones with the weakest immune system. Either way, it won't be your fault and there is not much you could have done about!

Your vet is obviously trying to do this as thoroughly as possible under the circumstances. Good on him!
 
if the cause was malformation or genetic defects then you have to find comfort in the fact that their short lives was full of happiness and love. When are you expecting the results?
 
MrsM said:
if the cause was malformation or genetic defects then you have to find comfort in the fact that their short lives was full of happiness and love. When are you expecting the results?
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Sometime next week the vet thinks but it can take longer :(
I WANT THEM NOW! - how much of a spoilt child do I sound like? :))
 
Kira said:
Sometime next week the vet thinks but it can take longer :(
I WANT THEM NOW! - how much of a spoilt child do I sound like? :))
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The waiting is often the hardest - especially as you are looking for closure of some sort to lay Cassie and her pups properly to rest. Of course, it's hard not to be able to let them go just yet! It's a bit like waiting for a school report and a meeting at the headmaster's office...
 
You are a wonderful piggie mummy. You are doing all you can to find out what happened to cassie and the bubs and that shows how much you care for all your pets. I can only imagine how you must be feeling having lost so many of your beloved piggies. Hugs to you and Jensen from me and my gang..
 
Awww hunny there is no way you are a bad piggy mommy, you are really dedicated to your piggies. The bad luck you have experienced recently with your little piggies surely points to an underlying problem, no doubt about it.

Hope the results are with you sooner rather than later to put your mind to rest.

Hugs

Joy xx
 
Hope you and all your piggies are well! fingers crossed for good news!
 
What exactly are these tests Kira? I was speaking last night with a friend who is a Veterinary Assistant in a practice that are specialists in the treatment of guinea pigs, rabbits and cats and she was rather confused as to the type of tests you are describing. She has asked me to find out more as she would like to discuss it with the vet she works for.
 
I thought Jensons problems with the head holding and walking were as a result of the rat attack? I'm sure I remember you saying that?

Good luck anyway i'm sure he'll be fine.
 
I'm concerned that you're not going to gain anything from putting Jensen through tests when anything that could be wrong with him is clearly not really stopping him from thriving.

If he has heart problems, an examination of (their) hearts through x-ray can be done to check this. It is thought to be a genetic condition but I'm really not sure that it would affect the pups like this.

I do think it's a good idea for the post mortem on the deceased pigs, especially considering the health of the rest of your herd to make sure they didn't have something contagious, but I'm really questioning what could be done on a father of the pups that would do anything but give you peace of mind -- which isn't in his best interest if he's not currently unwell.

You clearly don't want to breed him again... I'm not sure I see a point.

Think about what you want to gain before you put him through this -- especially if you're scared.
 
Lisajazz said:
I thought Jensons problems with the head holding and walking were as a result of the rat attack? I'm sure I remember you saying that?

Good luck anyway i'm sure he'll be fine.
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I thought it was as well because he held it fine before then! The vet doesn't seem convinced tho I'm so confused...
 
furryfriends said:
What exactly are these tests Kira? I was speaking last night with a friend who is a Veterinary Assistant in a practice that are specialists in the treatment of guinea pigs, rabbits and cats and she was rather confused as to the type of tests you are describing. She has asked me to find out more as she would like to discuss it with the vet she works for.
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He wants to see if he can find anything wrong with Jensen then might have been passed onto the babies or if he has a condition he would later need treatment for.

Can they actually do a test to see if he has neurological problems?
Could a rat attack result in neurological problems?

He wanted a blood test which I don't know if I'll let him do because of the stress involved and he was interested to see if Jensen had heart problems too as this would explain more about the babies if both the parents had genetic defects as I know nothing about Jensens history just that Inara is his mother...

If Cassie had heart problems tho I don't see how Jensen having the problems would help?

All I can focus on is that I could lose yet more guineas and after everything Jensen has been through I really don't want to lose him...

Obviously I never intended for Jensen to be bred I thought he was a girl for a long time so I definitely wont be allowing him near a female again so I don't know if I'm going to let the vet especially after reading teadragons post...I'd much rather take him to the vet if there was an actual sign of a problem rather then him maybe dying from stress over leading a long life...
 
For what it's worth I wouldn't put him through it. Getting blood is stressful and I think in the unlikely event he does have a heart condition that is more stress than your poor piggy needs.

Is the vet actually suggesting the blood test to test for a heart condition? I wonder how on earth a vet can tell if a pig has a genetic heart condition from a blood test? I can't remember reading if you'd gone for the PMs or not but to be honest if that's the case I'd wait for the lab results on those and go from there, at least then you'd know if it was something infectious without having put Jensen through a battery of tests for no reason.
 
Is the vet actually suggesting the blood test to test for a heart condition? I wonder how on earth a vet can tell if a pig has a genetic heart condition from a blood test?

Never heard of this to be honest.......:{

I have had pigs with suspected heart conditions - an ECHO and/or an ECG was taken - x ray could be taken to show any enlargement of the heart..........

I will ask my vet about this as if its a simple blood test - I wonder why this wasn't carried out on Popsy?

We live and learn.
 
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no no, he wants to do a blood test AND see if he has heart problems. Two different test. Sorry for not making that clear :red
 
So what exactly are the blood tests for? My vet was asking me tonight about it. He said he's very interested to hear about it.

Are you going ahead with the blood tests? Did you get the postmortem done on the babies? If so what did that show?

You must have massive vet bills!
 
I'm still not convinced... it's not difficult to see when a pig with heart problems is having heart problems as the enlarged heart begins to push on their airways they make a distinctive noise and their behaviour is pretty notable. That many other vets also seem to be having concerns (or are concerned enough to ask their clients to push you for further information) also makes me want to ask you to not put Jensen through the tests.
 
I decided not to put Jensen through any further stress and haven't gone ahead with anything.
Thanks alot for all your opinions and help :)
xx
 
I decided not to put Jensen through any further stress and haven't gone ahead with anything.
Thanks alot for all your opinions and help :)
xx
 
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