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Should Vet Have Done More?

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This isn't going to bring our guinea pig back but I found this site (too late sadly) and hope it might make us all feel a bit better even just writing it down. We bought 2 x guinea pigs from a reputable pet shop in 2013 - my eldest two children named them Rex and Max. My husband built and outside wooden hutch high off the ground - 3 levels with wooden doors to close at night time and also had a run for them in the day which they spent at least 7 hours eating grass. We fed them on the pellets, lots of hay, mainly celery and cucumber and occasionally a piece of apple. The kids would have them out in the garden everyday etc. Max is still very healthy. In July at the start of the summer holidays we noticed Rex had lost weight and also that he was more lethargic and moving around like an old man. He has always drank lots of water now I wonder if he was diabetic. We also noticed he was wheezing so we took him to our local vet. She looked at him and listened to his chest gave him an injection and antibiotics. She said there was no upper respiratory infection that she could hear. She said if he wasn't eating etc to bring him back but he ate all the way up to his death. Anyhow, we gave him his course of medicine and he was more or less the same still eating but the wheezing had gone. we went on holiday in August and our friend looked after them. When we came back although he had been eating he was just all bones. I took him back to the vet immediately and I said could he have cancer, diabetes and that he was still eating all the time but he wasn't getting the benefit of it. She said he didn't look like he was in pain. At this point he weighed 600grams - she gave a different antibiotic medicine and said come back if he stops eating. This was on the Thursday on 3 September he was dead by Sunday morning.

I have since had a voicemail message saying she now has an instrument to look at his teeth and he can have a free health check. My son is devasted and cries every night and I feel had I known more then I could have saved him in some way. I now know that there are specialist vets out there but I assumed a vet would be able to look at any animal. She did say he might have cancer but she couldn't feel any tumours or kidney disease. Should I have insisted on diabetic medicine - do guinea pigs get medicine for that - I felt his diet was healthy or was it something else?

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I'm so sorry, it sounds to me more like a stubborn infection that was resistant to the antibiotics he was given, do you know what they were called? Diabetes is possible but is not actually that common in pigs. How old was he when he died? do you know how much weight he lost over all? There are always so many "what ifs" when we lose a pig but you can make yourself ill going through them. It sounds like the vet treated the symptoms as they appeared and sometimes it is hard as you are treating symptoms but can't always get to the cause of what is going on. I am probably not much help.
 
Hi Helen thanks so much for your reply - he was only 2 years old. I'd say he lost at least half his body weight and yes you're right re the what ifs I do feel a bit better after your reply - I don't blame the vet that much I blame myself for not spotting the signs etc earlier. Thank you.
 
Don't blame yourself, you got him seen by a vet as soon as you noticed something was wrong.
 
yes I took him back twice - my son has painted a rippstone for him - my husband makes these also so he's got his own little tombstone in the garden
 
Can only echo what Helen has said above. Please don't torture yourself with what if's.... they are unfortunately a natural part of grief :( You did all you could.

I would suggest lookign for a new vet to restore some confidence in the future. You have a few good ones in London and one of our Health and Illness advisors is an experienced vet nurse in one of them @Abi_nurse

How is Max doing? Have a read of this Looking After A Bereaved Guinea Pig

Huge hugs
 
I'm really sorry for your loss. I posted on the other page as well, and can only reinterate what I said there... sometimes it's hard to know what has gone wrong, especially given that guinea pigs tend to hide illness as long as possible. It certainly sounds as though there was some sort of underlying issue to cause weight loss over a period of months while continuing to eat, but it's unfortunately likely that you'll never know for sure. It sounds as though you did all you could and you obviously loved him very much, so try not to beat yourself up. I actually lost a pig due, in part, to an inexperienced vet... I was a novice owner without much knowledge of guinea pig ailments and I trusted in a vet who said that they treated guinea pigs and followed his judgment. By the time I found out that the care she was receiving was substandard, she had already passed. I felt terrible because she might have been saved with more competent care... but at the same time, I know that I was doing the best with what I knew at the time. Now I know better so I can do better and ensure that this never happens again. I did take the time to seek out an exotics vet in my general area and educated myself a LOT about health needs of guinea pigs and, as a result, I'm a lot more confident in the care they receive and have gotten one pig in particular through a couple of health crises, so in the end although I lost one, what I learned helped me to save another one in the future.

My advice would be to search out an exotics vet with guinea pig experience now, because it's always easier to do it ahead of time in a period of calm than later on when it's needed in a pinch. And please, try not to beat yourself up. Sometimes our best efforts aren't enough. I know it's hard, though. ((HUGS.))
 
Thank you all so much - I do feel so much better and yes I did what I thought was best and now have some more knowledge re vets etc. Thanks again!
 
So sorry for your loss. This is not your fault at all, I do think your vet should have been more thorough with the exam rather than just sending you away with antibiotics which all too often happens.

There are many many things that can cause weightloss like you have described despite eating, he most common being dental problems, cancer, thyroid disease, kidney disease, parasites etc.

If you are worried about your remaining pig then don't hesitate to get them checked over by a piggie savvy vet. We have a list of recommended vets on here. Your always welcome at the royal vet college in Camden where we have a European exotic specialist and exotics vet.

So sorry again for your loss. Thoughts are with you.

xx
 
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