Skittish Girls, impossible to health check!

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Hello,

I’ve posted here before and had some brilliant advice so hoping someone can help here!

I previously had two long haired boars who sadly we lost earlier this year. They were my first piggies and even though they only got to 18m old they were incredibly tame, very cuddly. I was able to trim their nails, brush them, give them a haircut and even give them a very brief bum-bath when I needed to if they got a dirty with no issues. Well, they weren’t the happiest having their bottoms washed, but I could do it without worrying that they were going to panic so much they’d escape in the house and they’d enjoy their towel snuggles and a treat afterwards.

I now have three very young sows. One, a Rex (I think!) is 12 weeks old so shes short haired. The other two are litter sisters, and are 18 weeks old. They’re Sheba Mini Yaks so they are very long haired, total messy bad hair day bundles of cuteness. I’ve had them since they were all around 5 weeks old. The Shebas came first and the Rex joined them a few weeks later. They bonded pretty easily and all get along beautifully.

Generally they’re happy and (I think!) healthy little girls. They have a lovely big cage, lots of enrichment and they live inside with tons of daily interaction. They’re very used to all normal household noise, they don't even care when I hoover.

We handle them daily - sort of - and this is where we’re having a problem. I herd them into their carrier because I can’t pick them up from their cage and bring them out into a secure floor time run. They’re perfectly happy being in there with us. We sit still and just let them play, and come to us. They’ve got to the point where they will climb on us, sit on our laps, and hand feed small treats like pea flakes. We can even get the odd stroke of the nose in when they climb up.

However. I cannot pick them up! At all. They are terrified of it and I struggle to even catch them. Which I know is normal and i wouldn’t mind, am happy to just carry on giving it time except for the fact that I can’t health check them or groom the Shebas. I’ve never been able to weigh them. I’m happy that there is no issue on the weight front as they’re young, never stop eating, and I can see them growing at a rate of knots by eye at the moment but the Shebas are pretty much fully grown so I do need to get a baseline weight for them now. The Shebas are also getting to the point where they really do need a haircut and a good groom around the bum - I can see one of them is getting a bit messy - and they all need their nails trimming.

If I need to take them to the vet nurse for this then I will do because I need them to be kept healthy but I would rather avoid this because I know from my boys that piggies detest going in the car.

I can deal with them being skittish and not liking being picked up to be groomed - needs must - but the problem is they get so distressed that they bolt. There is no way I can keep them still enough to get at them with a brush, let alone scissors for a trim!

Any suggestions?
 
Hello it’s difficult isn’t it !
I have a skinny pig that hated to be picked up - I used a snuggle sack to gently herd him into and weigh him in that and then weigh the sack and take that weight off - gradually he got used to be handled …still hates it but I can do a health check along with a few herby or cookie bribes
I’m sure with time and gentle handling they may let you ….but some piggies just never tolerate it.
 
What stunning girls.
It’s difficult when the piggies are so skittish.

Unless you have any serious concerns you could just check for lumps and bumps when you are stroking them.
They will eventually calm down.

Moses absolutely hates being help so health checks are very brief and basic.
I have to put him in a small paper bag to weigh him as there’s no other way of doing his weight.
Then I have to remember to deduct the weight of the bag from the reading on the scales !
 
They’re cuties aren’t they! They are friendly little wheekers, very chatty and chilled in their cage and floor run but just entirely on their own terms and without being held in human hands, thank you very much!

I don’t have any health concerns, they’re still so young. I follow all diet recommendations and they have a big, clean and enriching environment. However they are on fleece, so their nails don’t wear down. They do a bit of climbing on a wooden bridge hidey and one of those mid-size ‘carrot cottages’ (I cut a second hole the back so they can run through it). Although they often knock that over on purpose so they can climb inside and eat it! But apart from that their feet are on fleece and hay.

I might’ve had a little breakthrough because I’ve seen my family member who is an experienced veterinary surgeon today. She’d normally come and do it all for me, but she’s very heavily pregnant with little lap space left for bonkers piggies at the moment! However, she did recommend a set of safe clippers which she said all of the vets in the know order, as they’re exactly the same as ‘official’ vet suppliers but instead of costing £100+ they’re around £20. They’re super quiet, so less fear inducing and far safer the scissors for bolters. She also said if the Shebas are getting messy/matted bums it’s more important that that’s sorted out than them having a bit of brief discomfort so I should carry on with the ‘give it time’ for cuddles and general petting. But, I need to try to gather the two that need a bum groom in a towel or snuggle sack so they’re held firmly, safely and can’t escape with their bums out and give them a quick whiz with the clippers to ensure their bums don’t get badly matted.

So I’m going to order a set of those. If I can’t do their nails myself I’m going to have to bite the bullet and take them to the vet nurse, who’ll hopefully be able to give me a baseline weight at the same time!

It always makes me laugh when I hear people describe piggies as simple first pets ideal for children! They need so much more care than people realise. They’re so rewarding though, special little spuds.
 
When I adopted Lexi and Thea, Lexi was completely wild and feral. I'm talking bucking violently while being held, whites of eyes showing, terrified squealing the lot. I had to herd her into a carrier to move her anywhere for the first couple of weeks then gradually progress to a hidey when I felt she was ready and could cope with that. I hand fed Lexi and Thea their veggies every night for 6 months. Health checks were just a quick weigh in a hidey then deduct the weight of the hidey. Then when Lexi slowly began to calm down after about 9 months, I would just give her a very quick check then put her back in the hutch. After about a year she started to trust me and I could do a full health check on her. You need to take it at their pace not yours. It sometimes takes a long time but in the end your patience will be rewarded.
 
Phew! Right well after my (amazing for the cost and very quiet) clippers arrived, I braved giving my queens of the wild hair day a good bottom trim.

They were not very impressed!

I did in inside my carrier from the top as I have the Kavee one that can be opened from the ends and the top which was useful, it worked well. I didn’t want to risk them bolting and hurting themselves.

Herding my little white lady in was ok. I put one of their sleep sacks in which I let her pop herself into, before holding her inside gently and getting busy with the clippers on her bottom and sides. I left the rest of her hair long and fluffy as it’s cooler weather and I don’t want her to get chilly.

She wasn’t too bad. A few indignant squeaks but for the first time ever afterwards she actually let me pick her up and had a nice little stroke and cuddle. She wasn’t frozen, she was giving me a good sniff and seemed to snuggle into a nose stroke. Didn’t push my luck, just gave her a little fuss then popped her back with some nice cucumber.

My dark haired beauty was far trickier. She’s the most skittish of all three anyway and did not want to be herded anywhere thank you very much. She even gave me a gentle warning nip. That’s the first time in a few years of owning pigs including boars through their teens, that I have ever felt teeth. It’s quite cute that they could give a nasty bite if they wanted to and she didn’t, it was just a ‘get away from me’ warning. Poor little love, I hated scaring her.

Anyhow I covered my hand (wasn’t risking a proper bite) and herded her in. She was extremely cross and chattered her teeth but I did get her into the sleep sack, held her in gently and she also now has a shorn, tidy bottom! Didn’t get her sides much as I didn’t want to keep going and distress her any more than absolutely necessary. She definitely was not up for a cuddle afterwards. She gave me a kick for good measure and huffed off as soon as I put her back in her piggy palace.

All the while my slightly less-skittish baby Rex was sitting watching with interest from the cage, possibly being a little smug over her very pretty but short, close coat which doesn’t require clipping at all, ha! Cheeky little madam.

I didn’t manage to weigh them but did get a good feel of them and whilst they are smaller than their floofy fur makes them look, they feel nicely solid. No funny lumps or bumps. Eyes are clear snd bright, ears look clean, and their feet are fine. Nails are starting to be in need of a trim, though they’re not as long as I was anticipating given that they’re on fleece and they’ve never been cut before. I will tackle that next and if I can’t manage it myself then I’ll take them to see the vet nurse. Their coats are in lovely condition but they did have matts forming around their bums as I suspected which I feel awful about, if only they’d let me groom them regularly! Now they’re short round there I will keep on top of it with the clippers and hopefully in time they’ll get used to it.

They seem to have recovered as they’re plodding around happily munching on their salad and some pea flakes.

I’ll carry on with the daily floor time with all three tomorrow (will leave them be for the rest of today) and hope that by this time tomorrow my shebas have forgiven me!
 
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