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I wanted to reply to the thread that was posted on here about him but it has been locked so i have started this one to put my side of this across as i seem to be being blamed for this.

I explained in my thread offering him to be rehomed that he had a fungal condition and needed a lot of care.

I have been in regular contact with Vedra, who many of you will agree is the best person to speak to if you have problems with a guinea pig's health.

When he first became ill i phoned Vedra and she made an appointment for me to bring him in, unfortunalely she couldn't fit me in until a week after he had become ill and his condition had deteriorated by the time he got to her.

Once she had him he was in her care for a while as he kept on scratching even though his skin condition had cleared. When i collected him she gave me advice on how to bandage him up to avoid him scratching and to dip him every other day to continue his treatment.

He was much better in December so we stopped dipping him but carried on bandaging him as advised by Vedra.

By the beginning of January his skin condition had returned so i took him back to Vedra, who gave him an injection and some more dip. We continued with this but was advised by several different people that it was unfair to keep him on his own and we didn't have the room for a larger cage so i decided it was fairer on him to find him a new home.

At the time that i handed him over i gave instructions on how to bandage him and dip him and even gave my membership card so he could continue to see Vedra.

This was the last i heard until now.

I have done everything possible to help him and he was getting better when i rehomed him or i would have never even considered giving him away. His skin was starting to clear up and as he was bandaged it was impossible for him to scratch.

So, i have the following questions:

1. How did he manage to scratch himself if bandaged?
2. How did he suddenly, in a few days deteritorate so much?
3. Why was i not informed. I would have taken him straight back and treated him.

I'm angry and upset at the news of this as i feel now that if i had not given him away he would still be getting better. He might not have been as happy as he could have been as he would be on his own but he would still be here.
 
I think that's what hurts the most. Everyone seems to be thinking i have deceived Laura into taking him. I can assure you that i gave her all of the information i had been given by Vedra and when i took him to see Vedra the week before she wasn't concerned about his condition and he was on the mend when i gave him away.

The thread about him implies that i'm a careless owner who let him get into this condition without doing anything, when the reality is that i have followed every bit of advice given to me by Vedra, spent a huge amount of money on treatment for him, given him so much care and attention and done everything i could to make him better. Not to mention the arguments between me and my husband because he didn't want him and i refused to rehome him until he was well enough to go.
 
Louise he wasn't well enough to go, fungal flares up when a piggy is stressed. Moving around is stressful for a piggy who is ill and so it would have made him worse. He was not well enough to Travel.
 
Because it's not our decision it's yours. With the facts, and an informed choice. You should have done research. I was not aware of it then as I have never had a fungal piggy but you have been treating him along side vedra for two months, why had she not mentioned this to you?

If Snuggles was doing well, then why was he still in a body bandage? Body bandaging: a) worsens fungal conditions - FACT - and b) is not a treatment - FACT. The fact he was still in enough pain and discomfort that he was continually scratching means he needed more treatment, and the fact that the fungal infection recurred reiterates that the body bandage was doing more harm than good.
 
Are you serious?

Vedra advised for him to be kept bandaged as she said the itching was mainly in his head and this would give him the time to recover fully and he more than likely wouldn't scratch when he got a new guinea pig to live with.

He has had several trips to Vedra, which is a long drive away and not deteriorated from that so i don't believe the drive did it.

Were you dipping him as i advised? I still don't understand why you took his bandage off after being told specifically that he needed to be kept in it and why.

At the end of the day out of sheer decency you should have let me know this was happening before you put him down and tried to put this all on me.

If you had followed the instruction that Vedra had given he wouldn't have been able to scratch and the treatment would have had time to work.

As for pain and discomfort, he was not suffering that when i gave him to you. He was a bit tender where his hair was growing back but that was it.
 
Sheer decency to you? Are you serious! You gave up both of your pets to me without a single text after even asking if they'd settled in okay or if i'd died on the way home!

You gave up ownership, along with all rights to know anything. It's sheer decency that I even texted you!

I have explained this whole thing to you three times now and told you to email laura who can explain it better. you have not listened and you have not emailed her. I am done with you louise. I wash my hands.
 
First of all i did text you to see how Genga had settled in and emailed you on several occasions.

I explained to you earlier that i had been ill and rushed off my feet with work this week so haven't had chance to do anything.

As a matter of fact i have pm'd Laura on here but not heard anything back yet.

As for giving up all rights weren't you the one who said if i gave you my guinea pig YOU would keep me updated?
 
Not to be a pain here, but I really feel that this is not the most constructive way of working through this sad situation. It is a tragic consequence that poor Snuggles had to be put to sleep, but at the end of the day, I have read all threads regarding this little fella.

NO ONE HAS TRIED TO LAY BLAME ON ANYONE.

YOU BOTH DID THE BEST YOU COULD FOR HIM.

Arguing the toss about who did what and who spoke badly of whom really isn't going to fix anything and it won't bring Snuggles back to us. In my opinion, Lexy did the RIGHT thing in having him put to sleep, guineas can, and often do go downhill very quickly in any illness at no fault of anyone involved.

I am sorry for your loss and I know it is horrible when such a sweet little one dies after having an impact on your lives.
 
That's fair enough, if he needed to be put down then that should have been done. I'm just trying to find out how things got to this situation when he was getting better a few days earlier.
 
louiserose said:
That's fair enough, if he needed to be put down then that should have been done. I'm just trying to find out how things got to this situation when he was getting better a few days earlier.
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That is understandable, but it could have just been one of those things. I mean, my Alphonse was getting better, than 12 hours later he was on death's door. Fungal infections are unpredictable
 
louiserose said:
That's fair enough, if he needed to be put down then that should have been done. I'm just trying to find out how things got to this situation when he was getting better a few days earlier.
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Completely understandable. I just feel that if your both need to discuss, that is what you should do. Not here. It is difficult for both of you. I'm sorry for your loss.
 
Believe me, i have tried but all i keep getting is i'm sorry and ask Laura. Anyway, i give up, i'm not getting anywhere here. I've had my opportunity to put my side across now.

I just thought i could trust this person and that she was nice and felt that i should have been told. Well i would have done that anyway.
 
I don't know much about what's happened here, so I'm sorry if I've got this wrong, but it seems to me that both of you tried your best for Snuggles and as has already been said, fungal infections are very unpredictable. Guinea-pigs hide illness well and can get more ill very quickly. I'm sorry for your loss.
 
Hi guys. first and foremost i am sorry that both of you are hurting. i think that you both feel that you did what you thought/were advised what was best and i think it is unfair that either of you should be critiscised and i'm sad to see it on the forum. i think maybe the severity of the problem wasn't apparent until too late I do belive that neither louiserose and lexy both did their best with this little piggie and put their trust in other people which unfortunately had conflicting advice and they both trusted their experts, (both who are very well supported on this forum and have a wealth of knowledge we would be lost without) and unfortunately perhaps, as i have said before on posts, it was just snuggles time and it may have been at the stage when neither treatment would have worked. this we will never know and i feel that we all need to just give you both our support in dealing with the loss of a loved piggie. In the end if we spend our time dwelling on' what ifs' we can never move forward. :rose:rose:rose:rose



Anyhow enough of the grown up, diplomatic chat. love to both and please remember that the forum is here for you both when you need it and we are all nice people really! :)
 
SORRY JUST NOTICED A MISTAKE. what i meant was 'i do belive that neither laurarose nor lexy let down this piggie and did their best' not 'I do believe neither laurarose and lexy did their best' :red:redmalletheadmalletheadinbreeding sorry girls!
 
Cgilchrist said:
SORRY JUST NOTICED A MISTAKE. what i meant was 'i do belive that neither laurarose nor lexy let down this piggie and did their best' not 'I do believe neither laurarose and lexy did their best' :red:redmalletheadmalletheadinbreeding sorry girls!
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still think this is bad english but can't get my head round it. rolleyes
 
sorry i am not trying to belittle any of it and it was unintentional but i hope you can smile a bit at my idiocy then that would be nice. xx
 
I think what you meant to say was:

I do belive that louiserose and lexy both did their best with this little piggie
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It was that darn 'neither' word that was causing all the problems ;)
 
Sodapops said:
I think what you meant to say was:



It was that darn 'neither' word that was causing all the problems ;)
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yep that would have been much simpler. unfortunately when i try to be all grown up and sensible the big words appear and it all becomes a bit a**e about face and complemicated! drool
 
you've not done any thing lolit was really genuinly funnny:D

i know what you mean with the complimicated words! :) xx
 
Mods...I think there has been enough "air time" on this. Following on from the previous thread can we please close this....it is now not doing anyone any good.
 
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Pebble said:
Mods...I think there has been enough "air time" on this. Following on from the previous thread can we please close this....it is now not doing anyone any good.
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sorry if i have offended you in some way just wanted to give both girls my support :red as i said i didn't intend it to become a joke matter just noticed my errors and corrected it before anyone was upset by it. hopefully laurarose has had chance to see this too before it is closed. :)
 
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