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Sow bleeding from rear end

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Have a 3 year old sow who has had a few drops of blood coming from her bottom (not sure specifically which part) over the weekend. I can also feel a round lump on her right side. Am waiting for the vet to come back to me for an appointment to take her to see him - I suspect we may be looking at surgery but whilst I'm waiting would appreciate opinions on whether HCG will be effective if a cyst (if that is what it is) is already bleeding?
I statred her on Septrin and she seems OK in herself other than the odd spots of blood.
 
Hiya,

I'd ring another vet and get an appointment right away. Bleeding should be looked at straight away. Could be a bladder stone. How is she in herself?

Hope she can get looked at today!

Good luck! x
 
Unfortunately it's a bit of a problem as we live on an island. We will get to see the vet today, I really just wanted to know if HGC was worth a try before risking surgery.
 
If the vet diagnosis an ovarian cyst,HCG is well worth a try,it often works ,and is a better option than surgery.However,it is rare for cysts to bleed so it is more likely that your piggy has a renal stone.Let us know what your vet says.
 
I have no experience of bladder stone etc, but good luck
 
Thanks everyone.
Just got back from the vets. He had a feel about and thinks she may be a bit sore in her bladder area, doesn't think it's uterus or ovaries. There is no sign of blood now and hasn't been since first thing this morning (perhaps the Septrin is doing its job?).
Vet said I should continue with the Septrin for 7 days then if it hasn't cleared up give her 5 days on Baytril.
The blood was quite bright red, don't know if that is significant.
The piggie looks fine and is eating normally.
 
Maybe something went up the wrong way - a bit of straw, wood shavings (don't know if you use them), hay...and was quite sharp it could've caused a minor injury a little way inside. If so anti biotics are probably the right thing to do.

I'm sure someone else on here has this problem & it was just a minor wound which looked a lot worse due to the blood
 
welcome to the forums from me and the girls fron oz :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: hoping your girl gets better :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
this sounds very similar to me as what i went through with zoe. back in october 2007 at age 3 zoe bled from her private part, took to the vet and was given terramycin injection with 3 follow up injections 3-4 days apart. well the bleeding stopped but 8 days after the antibiotic injections stopped the bleeding returned so more injections, bleeding stopped, 8 days later the bleeding returned, in the end went to another vet and found this place and with help from maryh and her vet zoe had a scan which showed she had cysts in her ovaries which HCG would have been tried but scan also showed she had a mass on her uterus. so zoe had surgery and had reproductive organs removed and after months of soft poops due to antibiotics and hormones zoe is back to normal so i would be asking your vet for a scan to rule out anything sinister. especially as you felt round lump on her right side and she was tender around bladder area. again wishing you luck and hope your girl gets better O0 sending hugs and healing vibes :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: please keep us posted. O0
 
I had a 6 year old sow who bled from her rear and she had a few bladder stones which were successfully removed.
 
My piggy Clover bled a little intermittently from her rear end earlier this year. It didn't ease up after a couple of weeks (vet said to see if it settled) though it didn't seem to be bothering her and she clearly wasn't in any pain. He went in and spayed her - found a tumour and ovarian cysts. After a couple of weeks on antibiotics, probiotics, critical care etc. with lots of tlc she was absolutely fine and is full of beans (and hay!) to this day. You should have seen her running round the garden yesterday!

Don't mean to scare you - just wanted to say that even if the vet decides at a later date that something needs doing it can all turn out ok! :)
 
That is good news. Perhaps it was a slight UTI and the antibiotics helped. Hope she continues to improve. :smitten:
 
Piggy had a bit of blood this morning but otherwise is behaving normally.
Unfortunately our vet on the island doesn't have x-ray or scanning facilities so we'll just keep a close eye on her. I suspect, seeing as she has lumps and bumps in that area, we may have to opt for a hysterectomy at some stage. Perhaps best to do it whilst she's relatively young, fit and fat - she's always been a big girl.
Will play it by ear and make a decision if she starts to look uncomfortable or looses condition.
 
our late choloe also bled from her private area and she then went of her food, took to vets gave antibiotics but as not eating they kept her in, after x-rays, and being stable they decided on exploratory surgery it was found her tiny bladder had a big tumour wrapped around it and there was nothing they could do for her. so we decided not to let her wake from the surgery :'( :'( :'( it will be 2 years september since we lost her. hoping you get things sorted for your baby O0 hugs and healing vibes coming your way :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: please keep us posted O0
 
Thanks for all replies.
Rags started bleeding again a couple of days ago (about two months after it first started). She otherwise looks well, her weight is normal as is her appetite.
I put her straight back on Septrin and gave her a drop of Metacam and booked her in to a vet off the island for a scan/x-ray.
They did an x-ray (without anaesthetic which was very good news).
It showed a cystic ovary, which was the lump we'd noticed earlier (and despite the fact that we think Rags had a litter before she came to me) but no signs of stones in the bladder or kidneys.
Vet recommended that I keep her on the Septrin for longer - perhaps a month this time. The vet said the Septrin didn't actually kill the bacteria but stopped it multiplying leaving the piggy's own body to fight the infection - this could be the reason the bleeding came back as the original infection may not have cleared up completely.
Vet didn't think we should risk speying at the moment. In their experience cyctic ovaries don't cause problems but I should go back if she starts getting the characteristic bald patches on her side. The vet was aware of HGC treatment for cystic ovaries and had looked into it for another client but the costs were prohibitive for the small amounts of the drug required. Vet didn't want to drain the cyst either.
Vet also recommended cranberry juice but, as we are pretty remote here, we do have a problem getting the unsweetened/organic variety. Has anyone any experience with the over the counter human cystitis treatments?
 
Hi sueonmull. Well done to you for caring so much for your piggy.

Unfortunately, I do not have any experience with ovary problems with my sows ... bladder stones, yes. I had a few with bladder stones, all of which came from the same owner, and it was both with sows and boars! :(

Keep us posted ... hope all goes well!
 
Riff has this problem right now and is on cranberry juice, metacam and baytril, and will be changing to septrin tomorrow.
 
Forgot to mention I put Rags on Metacam in case she was in any pain, though I don't think she is. Vet said as it has anti-inflammatory properties was worth keeping her on it.
 
i hope she gets better soon, poor little thing.

Keep us updated on her progress.
 
Hopefully the treatment will work for your piggie and things will improve.

Lucinda - sorry Riff is poorly at the moment.
 
Riff is coming off Baytril and starting Septrin tomorrow - when Boots get it in.
 
Well, have had a month on Septrin and still occassional signs of blood and so had another 10 days on Baytril. She's now started to bleed again but worse than before. She's also started to loose a little bit of weight though she's eating OK and no other signs to show she's not well. She is booked in to be speyed next Wednesday. Vary scared but have to be philosophical, it's not going to get any better by itself and if it does get progressively worse (which I suspect it will) she's going to be a very poorly piggy indeed and in a worse condition to get thorugh any operation.
Will let you know how it goes.
 
Sorry to hear that she is still unwell.
Fingers crossed that all goes well with the operation and I am sure that she will feel lots better afterwards.

Let us know how she gets on. Poor little love! xx
 
My Clover had a similar problem back in the spring - she was spayed and is absolutely fine now. Hope your little one gets on ok.
 
Thanks everyone, very pleased to hear Clover came through it OK soozn, any hints and tips on how you looked after her post op? I'm worried that I may not be able to collect her until the day after the op - don't think a ferry journey (when I may not be able to keep her quiet and warm enough) would do her any good within a few hours of her operation. Will take some Critical Care and Critical Care Formula over for her and lots of her favourite greens and hope the vet nurses will make sure she gets something to eat asap.
The decision to operate is made all the more difficult as she otherwise looks so well.
 
Clover looked well too - I felt just the same as you. After her op she looked pretty sorry for herself at first (hunched up, very quiet) but soon started to perk up. I tried to tempt Clover with favourites - little bits of cucumber, grass from the garden etc.,and she was on Baytril, Avipro (pro-biotic - they MUST have this if they're on antibiotics), Critical Care and Metacam. Obviously you need to keep her warm too: if Rags is an outdoor piggy bring her inside for at least a week. Lots of TLC is required for the first few days but they do get back to normal. After a couple of weeks you wouldn't have known Clover had had an op unless you turned her upside down and saw the scar! There's no sign of it now and she's a happy, healthy little piggy.

I hope Rags gets on ok - keep us posted.
 
Thanks soozn, I know there are risks but it is so good to know of someone with a happy ending. Trying to keep busy 'cos every time I think about it I feel sick. Will let you know how it goes.:...
 
Give Rags a kiss from me and tell her I will think of her! x>>
 
Rags had her operation this morning and it took me until 4.00pm this afternoon to get anyone at the vets to tell me what had gone on!
Apparently she had two cysts, one on the left ovary (didn't show on the x-ray beginning of August so obviously new) and a huge one the size of a mandarin on her right ovary - biggest the vet had ever seen and which had obviously grown somewhat since the original x-ray.
Unfortunately because of the size she's apparently got a huge scar and is in some discomfort so has had to have extra painkillers. I wonder if they could have drianed the big cyst with a syringe before the operation so it perhaps would have been less traumatic for her? Will ask when I pick her up.
I had expected it to be endometritis from all I'd read but in the end 'just' cysts.
The vet said she has eaten something and I have left critical care, critical care formula, avipro and a feeding syringe in case she needs a boost.
She will stay in tonightand probably for the next few days, by Saturday we should know whether she's going to be OK or not. I would have preferred her to stay there a bit longer (you can feel very isolated living on an island if things start to go wrong) but the vet is worried that if she stays by herself for too long she may get depressed. We'll see how she goes. Poor little mite.
 
I hope little Rags is feeling a bit more herself soon and is home on the weekend with her mum xx
 
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