Stones?

[xBeckyx]

My GP Wallace has been at the vets on a few occasions with UTIs and has had Baytril. His last visit was Thursday where he was given a 10 day supply and told if he didn't get better to get back in touch as there was a possibility of stones.
Today I noticed his urine had a red tinge, he still seems in pain and is squeeking a lot while going to the loo. A friend of mine who rescues Gps and who I got the boys off is concerned it's stones.
My vet is ringing ** in the morning when surgery opens but my friends vet claims there's not much they can do for a male with stones and I was wondering what your opinions are?
I'm fairly new to ownership so have had no experience with this, even myfriend who rescues hasn't had this in male pigs, just femaleswho had surgeryto remove them.

Any advice or help would be much appreciated.

 

[clairelove]

if it is stones it is very successful to remove them in males as well as females, septrin is a better antibiotic to use for UTIs so ask your vet if they will give this instead of the baytril!

is he also having probiotics? with him been on antibiotics? this is a must as antibiotics kills all the good bacteria in the gut and probiotics helps the replace this the antibiotics kills...

i would ask for an x-ray to be done to rule out stones and possibly a x-ray contrast too as x-rays are not always correct if a stone is not seen on x-ray where as a contrast is.

where any guinea pig has had stones they always need to go onto cystaid/cystease tablets which can be brought over the internet, the dose is half a capsule dissolved into 1ml of water once a day for life, this helps to stop the build up of crystals and stones forming, is normally used in cats but also can be used in other animals...

also a change in diet is a must for life after, they will need dry pellets not muesli food as this is high in calcium, and foods you need to only give every now and then are cabbage, spinach, kale these are hign in calcium which form calcium stones, you need to find other veg ie bell peppers which are high in vit C but low in calcium, round lettuce ect but this is mainly water, have a look on the stickies as laura ccc4 has done a food list of low calcium foods and high calcium foods...

 

[Wiebke]

Please have an x-ray done to check for stones. It very much depends on where they sit in males; the vast majority is operable, though, so I wouldn't panic yet.

Here is more information:
http://www.guinealynx.info/stones.html

 

[xBeckyx]

Thank you so much for that information I'm a little more optamistic now than I was. My boy is 4, how do you think he would do with anasthetic?

My lads are on pellets already and obviously I'm more than happy to alter their diet slightly but I'm not sure how happy Wallace would be not having kale-he loves it! I'll just have to reassure him it's for his own good!

 

[doglovinpiggylover]

my boy had a bladder stone removed last summer, i think the difference may be that girls can actually pass them sometimes whereas boys cant due to having 'slimmer bits'! I think, i dont know for sure.

Anyway, my pepper had a successful op to remove a huge stone and he recovered very well from the op but sadly developed stones again within a fortnight and i had to make a horrible decision for him as he was unable to empty his bladder himself, very sad.

Its not always negative though, and i think acting on early signs are better because if they do travel it can be extremely painful for them.

fingers crossed for you xx

 

[Sue_P]

Hiya. Sorry to interject but one of my rodents was acting odd last night, I’m presuming it’s to do with being uncomfortable with a bladder stone or sludge. I’ve seen him act that way once before, he lies down and pushes his back end into the ground and moves his back legs around a bit and turns from side to side every so often. When I first saw him do it I thought he’d had a stroke and his back legs were paralysed but after 5 minutes he was up again and back to normal as if nothing had happened. The same thing happened last night, he just looks like he’s uncomfortable and in pain and is trying to move something inside of him. Before he started lying down and acting odd he was doing some painful small wees so that’s why I presume it’s cystitis related. Again it was only for a few minutes, there was quite obviously something not right with him and he was in pain but like the last time (possibly a year or so ago now) he just went back to his usual self afterwards acting as if nothing had happened. Just wondered if that sort of behaviour is common amongst rodents with bladder stones or cystitis?

 

[Guinea Slave]

where any guinea pig has had stones they always need to go onto cystaid/cystease tablets which can be brought over the internet, the dose is half a capsule dissolved into 1ml of water once a day for life, this helps to stop the build up of crystals and stones forming, is normally used in cats but also can be used in other animals...

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Thank you Clairelove this is very useful information. I use Uriflow at the moment which is said to break down the stones, would you advise using Cystaid/cystease alongside the uriflow to prevent them forming in the first place?

Uriflow appears to help so I am petrified of taking her off it in case she gets another stone but it did'nt work for my other girl so I'd be quite keen to try this too.....