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Right, here goes. On the 10th January I collected a rabbit from nearby Bedford (i dont normally collect, least of all out of mk, but she sounded desperate and told me the rabbit was only being fed and watered every 3 days). When i went into the garden and saw this massive rabbit, a continental giant cross, stuffed into the bedroom compartment of a 3ft hutch, i was gobsmacked, but remained silent. I asked the usual questions to get some background info, was told the rabbit had started as a kids pet indoors, got bored of, and ended up in the shed outside. I reached into the hutch (barely room for my hands plus buns body) and got bun out. I just about managed to fit her into the cat carrier i brought with me, and went on my way to collect another bun from Harpenden.
Anyway, Health check showed no problems apart from being overweight, and also that bun was actually a female, not male, as had been thought for the previous 3 years of its life.
Behavioural assessment showed that she was a grumbler when picked up and would squat herself as low to the ground/floor of the hutch as possible.
I know does are more prone to being grumpy than bucks, and that giant rabbits are not as confident being picked up as smaller buns, but in my experience, rabbits that had previously been owned by small children with this much fear normally had normally been caused by the animal being dropped or incorrectly handled.

When it came to the listing on my site for bun, i did in fact list that she had previously been kept in a hutch far too small, so it was essential that her new owner understood that a rabbit of this size needed much more than a 3ft hutch, and that her fear of being handled, i believed, MAY have stemmed from being dropped or incorrectly handled.

Last night, just 3 hours after being discharged from hospital following emergency surgery the day before, i had a call from the previous owner, calling me all sort of unrepeatable names, telling me to eff off when i tried to speak slamming the phone down on me. Today, i found it strange that my site had over 50 hits yesterday, and 60 today (the average being 20-30 a day) and upon inspection, found a whole thread on a bidding website dedicated to this 'poor woman' that had been branded an abusive owner by this 'awful woman' at a 'rescue'. She had gone to elaborate measures to bad mouth me, telling such lies it was almost comical.

I had already offered, and have since done, to take down the offending wording, but this wasnt enough, she has since reported me to gumtree, preloved, and the website owners who i use for my rescue efforts, and has now said she has complained to the police for slander and harrassment (i rang her back after she put the phone down to try and talk like adults?!) and has pretty much dragged my name, and what i do, through the mud.

Has pretty irreversable damage already been done? Do i just say stuff it, shut my doors, not take any more in and just give up like i feel like doing?
I'm so stressed out at the moment i really dont need all of this, and yes while i know i maybe shouldnt publicly express my opinions, but the rabbits name had been changed anyway, and not once did i say she HAD been dropped, or give the name or details of the woman to identify her.

I really dont feel like contacting her again to ask her to check the website listing to see if theres anything else she wants me to change to keep her happy and quiet, and dont feel i should have to. Just lost and stuck, i am relatively new to all this and its the first time anyone has made me want to disappear under my duvet!

Also, before i set all of this rescue up, i checked with my local environmental health and council, both said i didnt need a license, but some of the womans buddies who stuck up for her on the forum said i ought to be inspected as i was 'no sort of rescue' blah blah.
Any ideas, comments etc welcomed
 
if you don't mention her by name, she's just having a bad case of guilty conscience to me... I also think she might be bluffing about the police, etc. After all, who's harrassing the other?
Maybe you should get some legal advice from your website provider and from your local environment and health council just so you know exactly where you stand...
 
Crikey - well, I think she was probably lashing out through guilt as te bun may have very well been mishandled. As for the friends, some people like to just stir up trouble and get their kicks from making other people's lives miserable.

Did you get a surrender form signed from her by any chance? I very much doubt that she wants the rabbit back, but she's probably kicking up a fuss down to embarrassment.

I'm not sure of the best way to go from here - perhaps keep the bunny for a bit or go ahead and rehome, and don't respond to her any more?
 
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she was hardly concerned about the rabbit, she contacted me initially via a Preloved, and said 'i have a 3yr old rabbit that i need to rehome, i cant deliver and i wont pay money to rehome it, interested?'
How charming is that, like she was giving away a coffee table or sommat
 
I'm not surprised - I've seen some lovely ones - "I want to get rid of my guinea pigs what can you do for me....", "kids have lost interest and I want them gone...", "will you pay me if I turn over my pigs..." Nice.
 
[QUOTEDid you get a surrender form signed from her by any chance? I very much doubt that she wants the rabbit back[/QUOTE]

This happened before i started doing surrender forms, as i say I'm very new to the official side of things, and always saw surrender forms as a bit too official and upsetting to anyone genuinely upset about handing in their pet, but i now stick to them religiously, which is a shame.

And she did say on the forum, before i joined up and got my side of the story across, that if she knew where i lived she would come and get her rabbit back, also claiming that she was worried about the rabbits welfare with my state of mind!
 
I am so sorry your going through this stress with this awful person.
All i can suggest is don't bother contact her again and please please try not to listen to her, it sounds to me like she feels guilty thats all.
Yes you was right in my opinion to say this poor bun wasn't handled right etc etc as it sound's like she wasn't.
I wouldn't worry about her friends as they seem only to be out to cause trouble.
With ppl like this woman you can't talk to them adult's as they just want to have a screaming match.
Just think if you hadn't of took in this bun how long would she have lasted?
 
I would say, from the legal perspective, as long as nothing in your posting gave any identifier of the previous owner, you don't have anything to worry about. Most likely, as other have said, she's lashing out from guilt, or, alternatively, she could be concerned that someone might guess she's the previous owner and be worried about how it will make her look.

You've done all that you can as regards that situation, and she knows how to get a hold of you if she seriously wanted the rabbit back, so I'd chalk it up to a bad experience, say a prayer for her soul (if you believe in such things), and just let it go while you continue with your good work of helping the animals that come into your care.

It's sad that there's people like that out there, so just hold on to the thought that you're helping people to enjoy the wonder of fur-babies whenever you rehome to someone.
 
Absolutely nothing in the rabbits listing gave away any detail as to her identity, i wouldnt even dream of using a full name etc for doing something such as thanking volunteers etc, so certainly wouldnt do it in a situation like this, and of course the bun had a change of name too, so its not like that gave it away either.
Shes told so many lies, like it was me that contacted her, it wasnt, and i can prove it, also that it was back in november, it wasnt, it was 10th jan, and i can prove it. Silly little things.
The upsetting thing is not making me look bad, i have far too much of a thick skin to really care what people call me etc, its that shes named my rescue and has dragged that through the mud, and by complaining to the people i use to advertise the piggies and buns on, could effectively, lose them the chance of finding even just one new home if they all follow gumtrees suit and delete my ads on her say so.
Ive just found yet another forum where she has been slagging me off, and find 2 replies to her, one suggesting she pretends to enquire about guinea pigs to get onto my property, to confront me, then to take the rabbit. which is of course gaining entry under false pretences and then stealing. Another advises her to 'slap the b&*tc up' while shes at it.
Disgusting that the forums are even allowing threats or suggestions of violence.
 
If you feel up to it, contact the sites you use to promote your rescue and lay out the situation, calmly and concisely. Other than that, really just let it run its course. She's not likely to escalate the situation, as she's very much aware (as proven by her behaviour and holier-than-thou attitude) that she was in the wrong, and will, due to simple human nature, be more interested in self-preservation than anything else. Really, that's what all of her behaviour is about. She needs to make everyone believe that you're the bad guy, because otherwise, that means that she has to accept that she is. This just underlines why animals make better friends than humans (exception to all of the wonderful humans I've met on here, of course). Don't let it get you down, just get your story out to the people that matter, and forget about the rest. They aren't worth your time, nor your worry.
 
I have been through this.I rescued over 50 "pedigree" guinea pigs in terrible condition from a woman who is high in the guinea pig world.she also breeds and sells bunnies and is a vet nurse.she buys animals breeds the knickers off them and then when they are so depleated she sells them or has them destroyed.She took it upon herself to make myself miserable for the past 3-4 mths and i did at one stage close the rescue.Ignore her she will get over it and go away.the animals you take care of and help are the only ones that matter.it is hard but stay strong! :)
 
As piggywinks said - contact gumtree, preloved, and explain your side of the story. If by any chance she does get in touch with the authories and "claims" you contacted her and she wants the rabbit back, keep a hold of her initial correspondance with you. Then she won't have a leg to stand on.

And remember, all the stuff on the forums is just talk. She's whinging to people who know her side of the story, and she's dragging your rescues name through the mud because she knows that she mistreated the rabbit and you have held a mirror up to that. And about the threats being suggested to you, well, if she ever does get in touch with your feigning interest in guinea pigs, call the police. After the threats on the forums you have a genuine fear of her stealing/damaging the animals in your care, and physically hurting you. Not that I think she would ever do that, as she is clearly hiding behind the forums.

Please don't give up and close your doors, you're doing great work and this stupid crazy woman just needs to be ignored. Give her enough time and her story will get repetitve and she'll shut up cos no-one is listening.
 
why not report her to the mods of the forums in question? You have proof that she is the one slandering as she has attacked your rescue by name, isn't that against the rules? Also, if she claims that you rescued her bunny in November, it can't be hers on your website as you got it in January, she's got it all wrong, right?
 
What kind of sites has she posted this on? If they are rescue sites then they would surely know about the types of situations some animals come from so i wouldnt worry too much... Maybe contact the moderators of the site (s) and explain...

I wouldnt put anything about the rabbits past on a write up for them because situations like this can occur if the owner reads it but you can put what needs to be done for them in the future "needs more handling" covers it really... And then when newe owner come along you can then tell them about its past...

I had a similar problem with the previous owner of my pigs who wanted the cage back for ferrets and had to go through numerous emails from her nad her family...
Technically, if this ever went to court (which it of course wont!:) )you have no proof that the rabbit has been dropped or mishandled (but i completely understand you know your rabbits!)... So THAT part is the only part she can complain about as it is classed as speculation on your part.
So stand your ground but i would reword that little part in my opinion...

The fact of the matter is if she had been a better owner this rabbit would not have been in your care in the first place and that is what you should concentrate on...:)
 
You need to take this further - you can't let her get away with phoning you and harassing you via every other means. You can...

Report her to the police - it's unlikely they will act but it will at least be on record.
Report her to BT for harassing you via phone.
If she harasses you via email, contact her ISP.
If you don't get any joy with the forum admin, contact whoever hosts them. They have an obligation to step in when this sort of behaviour occurs.

Keep a record of absolutely everything - print emails, log phone calls, do a print screen of anything she says on forums.

She sounds like she has some severe issues there. Guilt being the least of them.
 
I understand that you are upset, it's only natural.

Unfortunately in rescue we have to deal with people too - we see the good side of people and the worst. This may be the first time this has happened but sadly it won't be the last - it goes with the territory.

Every person involved with rescue over a number of years will recount stories like this - putting up with aggression, abuse, inconsiderate behaviour - the list goes on.

I'm sorry this has happened but I would urge you to do absolutely nothing. Carry on with your rescue work - don't get dragged into this any further - ignore her at all costs. And I would certainly remove yourself from any forum that has discussed this, if you don't read it then you can't be offended.

Unless the businesses involved prevent you from further advertising then just let it go. It's most unlikely as they should be astute enough to know that there are always 2 sides to every story.

The name of a good rescue will never be brought into disrepute by the mouthings of one person but that "good name" has to be built up over a course of time, not in five minutes. It will be your actions regarding rehoming and rescue that will give you your reputation not the rantings of another person. :)
 
If you feel up to it, contact the sites you use to promote your rescue and lay out the situation, calmly and concisely.
I agree, If it was me, and someone threatened to report me to police, i would get there first, explain the situation, show the proof of her contacting you etc, tell the police that you are concerned for your rescue and the future chances of re homing them, that actually she is the one that is guilty of slander etc, as you didn't name her, but she has done you.... or if you had a friendly solicitor perhaps they could just send her a letter on your behalf, explaining your side and perhaps how slander actually works!
She's got serious guilty conscience, thank god you have that poor bunny, and it's no longer in a home like that.....all the best, and it's people like you, who keep going for the animals, even when things like that happen make all animal lovers proud....well done!
 
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