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Teebo Having Op Tomoz

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Poor Teebo is booked in for an op tomoz...the antibiotics for his uti have not worked and his metacam has been increased to twice a day now.
l was up all night with him last night..very upsetting...Teebo was crying very loud like a little puppy...whimpering...and everytime he went to pee his whole little body jollted.
He seemed to improve over weekend but monday just got really bad again.
l heard that calcium rich foods like celery and kale can cause stones?
lve was feeding him quite alot of that over november and xmas...
he loved it...so l kept feeding it...all my othet pigs are fine.
he was put on septrin 0.5ml once daily on 22nd december and there was slight improvement but now he has gone down hill again.he had not even finished the course of antibiotic yet.
Teebo booked in for 9:00am at companion care vets aylesbury...l hope everything is going to go okay.
lve never had a piggy under gas before...not to sure how l should take care of him post op.
will it be invasive?will they keep him in?
 
Hi!

I am very sorry, but under the circumstances, an operation is his best chance.

Your vets may keep him in if he is struggling to recover from his operation (not all vets do; it depends on how the clinic is run and whether they can provide round-the-clock care).
What you can do to prepare for post-op care:
- make sure that you have got everything for syringe feeding at home, so you can step in immediately with syringe feeding and watering if necessay. Your care can make as much difference in the recovery as the operation. You may be able to get some recovery food etc. from your vet. It is also helpful to have probiotics handy. For bladder piggies, we recommend avipro plus, as it doesn't contain any added calcium. More information in our step-by-step guide: Complete Syringe Feeding Guide
- make sure that your boy has enough to drink to help flush the bladder. There may be some bloody pees in the firit 2-3 days.
- keep him on light, unpatterned fleece or towels, which you can change at least daily for the first 2-3 days to keep an eye on any bleeding.
- check on your boy at least once during the first night to make sure that he is OK. See an out-of-hours vet or the operatign vets promptly as an emergency if he is very lethargic and not picking up or deteriorating in the days after the operation. Ask your vets how soon after the op he can have painkillers again in case you have an emergency.
- The healing process sets in fully after 2-3 days when the operation wounds start knitting. Any scards should knit between 10-14 days.
Ideally, your boy should be brighter with every passing day.
- Keep weighing him daily, either before breakfast or before dinner in order to keep an eye on his weight/feed intake all the way through his recovery.

Long term care for bladder stone piggies:
- Please follow the recommendations in our IC diet; it has been carefully researched to provide balanced long term nutrition for any piggies requiring a low calcium diet. We have added the IC diet at the end of the thread; it is also listed under "daily veg" in our general diet recommendations in the Food section.
Low Calcium Diet For Bladder Piggies
- Filter the water; this can make a noticeable difference with the build-up of any calcium and minerals in the bladder.
- Switch to low calcium pellets. We recommend 5 "Bunny" pellets per day as the most suitable brand that is currently available.
Bunny GuineaPigDream BASIC | Free P&P on orders £29+ at zooplus!
- Support the damaged/irritated bladder by giving a glucosamine based food supplement, whether that is vegetarian glucosamine or cystease/cystophan. The bladder walls have a natural coating of glucosamine, this helps to rebuild that and to protect the bladder in the future.
- syringe water once daily, as much as your piggy will take in one go in order to flush out the bladder regularly. Many bladder piggies are poor drinkers, so calcium, minerals and bacteria can build up. Aim for 10-15 mls, but you may not be able to achieve it. Never give more than half a syringe (0.5 ml) in one go; that is about a mouthful. Wait until it has gone down before you give more toprevent things from going down the wrong way.

Calcium absorption is a complex and not yet well understood process. You cannot necessarily control all the factors involved (especially not any genetic factors). However, poor drinking and a high calcium diet are the two major contributing factors that you can try to influence.

Wishing you and your poorly boy all the best and hoping that it is a straight forward op with a smooth recovery!
 
Wiebke said:
Hi!

I am very sorry, but under the circumstances, an operation is his
Your vets may keep him in if he is struggling to recover from his operation (not all vets do; it depends on how the clinic is run and whether they can provide round-the-clock care).
What you can do to prepare for post-op care:
- make sure that you have got everything for syringe feeding at home, so you can step in immediately with syringe feeding and watering if necessay. Your care can make as much difference in the recovery as the operation. You may be able to get some recovery food etc. from your vet. It is also helpful to have probiotics handy. For bladder piggies, we recommend avipro plus, as it doesn't contain any added calcium. More information in our step-by-step guide: Complete Syringe Feeding Guide
- make sure that your boy has enough to drink to help flush the bladder. There may be some bloody pees in the firit 2-3 days.
- keep him on light, unpatterned fleece or towels, which you can change at least daily for the first 2-3 days to keep an eye on any bleeding.
- check on your boy at least once during the first night to make sure that he is OK. See an out-of-hours vet or the operatign vets promptly as an emergency if he is very lethargic and not picking up or deteriorating in the days after the operation. Ask your vets how soon after the op he can have painkillers again in case you have an emergency.
- The healing process sets in fully after 2-3 days when the operation wounds start knitting. Any scards should knit between 10-14 days.
Ideally, your boy should be brighter with every passing day.
- Keep weighing him daily, either before breakfast or before dinner in order to keep an eye on his weight/feed intake all the way through his recovery.

Long term care for bladder stone piggies:
- Please follow the recommendations in our IC diet; it has been carefully researched to provide balanced long term nutrition for any piggies requiring a low calcium diet. We have added the IC diet at the end of the thread; it is also listed under "daily veg" in our general diet recommendations in the Food section.
Low Calcium Diet For Bladder Piggies
- Filter the water; this can make a noticeable difference with the build-up of any calcium and minerals in the bladder.
- Switch to low calcium pellets. We recommend 5 "Bunny" pellets per day as the most suitable brand that is currently available.
Bunny GuineaPigDream BASIC | Free P&P on orders £29+ at zooplus!
- Support the damaged/irritated bladder by giving a glucosamine based food supplement, whether that is vegetarian glucosamine or cystease/cystophan. The bladder walls have a natural coating of glucosamine, this helps to rebuild that and to protect the bladder in the future.
- syringe water once daily, as much as your piggy will take in one go in order to flush out the bladder regularly. Many bladder piggies are poor drinkers, so calcium, minerals and bacteria can build up. Aim for 10-15 mls, but you may not be able to achieve it. Never give more than half a syringe (0.5 ml) in one go; that is about a mouthful. Wait until it has gone down before you give more toprevent things from going down the wrong way.

Calcium absorption is a complex and not yet well understood process. You cannot necessarily control all the factors involved (especially not any genetic factors). However, poor drinking and a high calcium diet are the two major contributing factors that you can try to influence.

Wishing you and your poorly boy all the best and hoping that it is a straight forward op with a smooth recovery!
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Do you know what basics l can use at home at buy from pets at home.
he lives with one other piggy..do l need to seperate them...they get upset if they are apart.
my pigs are on vet beds as his freind cant tollerate saw dust.
l have puppy re.hydration powder with elcetrolytes...he drinks normally now ...lve put cranberry in his water bottle...and he is eating and cleaning himself.
he is not playing with his freind though and is looking a bit "down" .
My oldest pig maugwai who is six years old..has been watching teebo all night too..maugwai slept next to teebo's hut last night and peered into his home everytime teebo was crying.
teebo is quite tame and will accept syrigne feeds...he takes his meds well ...l just draw it all up and call him over when he in his home...and he takes it no fuss.
he such a good boy.
l feed my pigs "selective" pellets by supreme science ...can they be made into a recovery mash to syringe?♡♡♡
 
Hey, hope all goes well. I take it he is having an x-ray?

You are doing all you can in being prepared for when he comes home.

Expect him to be a little dopey and unsteady on feet after gas and have a cosy for him to go into to keep warm and recover.
 
sport_billy said:
Hey, hope all goes well. I take it he is having an x-ray?

You are doing all you can in being prepared for when he comes home.

Expect him to be a little dopey and unsteady on feet after gas and have a cosy for him to go into to keep warm and recover.
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Oh really...l remember l had a pig who was 7years old years ago...he had a dental check...under gas...l told vet no...but they still did it.
mr pig was dopey and wobbly for days ...then three days later he died!

I'm dreading it...Teebo only 7month old.
 
Gorgeous lad. We have had dentals done under gas lots and each time piggies recovered fine. It is not like having a full GA.

What are they doing?
 
sport_billy said:
Gorgeous lad. We have had dentals done under gas lots and each time piggies recovered fine. It is not like having a full GA.

What are they doing?
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Teebo might have a stone in his bladder or kidney...he needs an x.ray first and then op to remove the stone if the find one/some.
poor little guy in so much pain...he wimpers all time when he tries to pee and his whole body jolts.
 
Fingers crossed for him.

Remember to speak to the vet about pain relief for after if he has an op if stone is found Metacam is usual. I would also asking for some metachlopromide (gut stimulant) thsi will help with appetite and make sure things are moving through his system.

Keeping him in my thoughts, please keep us updated
 
sport_billy said:
Fingers crossed for him.

Remember to speak to the vet about pain relief for after if he has an op if stone is found Metacam is usual. I would also asking for some metachlopromide (gut stimulant) thsi will help with appetite and make sure things are moving through his system.

Keeping him in my thoughts, please keep us updated
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Is metaclopramide an anti.emetic...l use it in post op theatre work in people to stop them getting sick after their operations.
(Dont always work though...some patients throw up everywhere)
I hope my boy will come round well...so worried...he is so young...♡♡♡
 
If I were you, I'd discuss this with the veterinary nurse or vet before signing the consent form
 
Good luck with everything. Talk through it all.. What they will do if they find a stone - will they operate today and remove it today etc... Or will you go back at a later date.
 
roisincracknell said:
Do you know what basics l can use at home at buy from pets at home.
he lives with one other piggy..do l need to seperate them...they get upset if they are apart.
my pigs are on vet beds as his freind cant tollerate saw dust.
l have puppy re.hydration powder with elcetrolytes...he drinks normally now ...lve put cranberry in his water bottle...and he is eating and cleaning himself.
he is not playing with his freind though and is looking a bit "down" .
My oldest pig maugwai who is six years old..has been watching teebo all night too..maugwai slept next to teebo's hut last night and peered into his home everytime teebo was crying.
teebo is quite tame and will accept syrigne feeds...he takes his meds well ...l just draw it all up and call him over when he in his home...and he takes it no fuss.

He can stay with his friend unless he is very poorly. If all goes well, he should be able to eat and drink pretty normally although his poos will look a funny for the first day after the operation.
he such a good boy.
l feed my pigs "selective" pellets by supreme science ...can they be made into a recovery mash to syringe?♡♡♡
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You can get recovery food and probiotics from your vet when you pick up your boy, at least a small portion to bridge you over. To order regular stock to have handy for emergencies/illness, please use the online links in the syringe feeding guide. It also contains tips as to what you can do with what you have got at home in an emergency until you can see a vet or have stuff delivered.
Cystease or cystophan etc. you can order online or get via your vets (it is a food supplement, not a prescription-only medication), or you can get vegetarian glucosamine from a shop like Hollands&Barretts.
 
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